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There is a conservative wave coming
« on: September 15, 2014, 08:50:30 PM »
Red meat feel good partisanship editorializing on the upcoming midterms.

Plenty of laugh out loud zingers in there IMHO.

I don't consider myself a Republican any longer but seeing the Democrats finally get spanked for their over reach would certainly be satisfying. Even if the worthless Republicans were the beneficiary.

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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 09:25:36 PM »
Plus, right now Barack Obama is about as popular as Bob Crane at a Southern Baptist convention.

Wow, who under 55 is going to get that reference?
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 09:28:07 PM »
Plus, right now Barack Obama is about as popular as Bob Crane at a Southern Baptist convention.

Wow, who under 55 is going to get that reference?

I'm under 55 and I get it. :)
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 09:33:17 PM »
Plus, right now Barack Obama is about as popular as Bob Crane at a Southern Baptist convention.

Wow, who under 55 is going to get that reference?

I thought that line was a little esoteric myself. But red meat is for a specific audience. This is feel good for the 50 and over crowd (I'm 50 and grew up with his reruns).

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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 10:38:05 PM »
I'm over 55, and I remember Bob Crane ("Col. Hogan") was murdered over 30 years ago . . . I don't remember a Baptist connection.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 10:39:52 PM »
I'm over 55, and I remember Bob Crane ("Col. Hogan") was murdered over 30 years ago . . . I don't remember a Baptist connection.

He went all-out nutty for pornographic films, IIRC.  Was killed by one of the poor, misunderstood denizens of that culture.

I will believe a "conservative wave" when I see it.  I, too, have been alienated from the GOP, but will still register with them to do damage control at the local level.  I doubt any acceptable conservative or liberty-minded candidate will be nominated for POTUS.  From either major party.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 06:35:44 AM »
I expect this mid-term election will turn out much like '94 did in the end.  Any gains made will be largely thrown away during the following two election cycles.  The GOP is infected with a terminal case of "The Stupids" in my opinion.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 10:23:34 AM »
I expect this mid-term election will turn out much like '94 did in the end.  Any gains made will be largely thrown away during the following two election cycles.  The GOP is infected with a terminal case of "The Stupids" in my opinion.

This.

The continuing battle between establishment/RINO GOP and the Tea Party will continue.

Plus, the overall ratchet factor to ever more leftist statism continues. In part because the GOP does what the DNC does, just "slower" and throws in a few socially conservative bones for the wedge issues.

The biggest two factors I see in continuing the "ratchet" are:

1. It only takes 6 months of MSM hopey-changey narrative to usher in a new wave of destruction. It takes 6 years of pain for the electorate to shift gears, the hard corps left to get an 'enthusiasm gap', and the center-right to get motivated into superior turnout.

That's not a winning formula... ever.

2. The Left has largely succeeded in creating structural majorities through pushing us hard to the tipping point of 51% "takers" vs. 49% producers, and illegal immigration.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 10:57:19 AM »
The only wave coming is the wave of wailing when they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, both in mid terms and in the presidency.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 11:06:37 AM »
The only wave coming is the wave of wailing when they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, both in mid terms and in the presidency.

Are you kidding?  This guy is inspiring (of despair):



What with his buggering of the base and average Americans on immigration to support welfare for tech billionaires and businesscritters who would rather hire illegals or H1Bs, I can not see how this will turn out badly. 
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 12:43:19 PM »
The only wave coming is the wave of wailing when they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, both in mid terms and in the presidency.

This fall will be a bloodbath, second only to '94, perhaps even greater, but as RocketMan predicts, it'll be squandered. IIRC, some of the "generic Republican vs. generic Democrat" polling shows the widest gaps in... well ever.

2016, anyone good from the GOP side will be run out by the primary process as usual.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 01:01:21 PM »
I think the Republicans will get the Senate. I'm not sure if it will be a bloodbath. I'm thinking there will be enough screwups before election time to reduce their advantage.

While I will gleefully smile at the post election outrage of progressives, like others here, I expect the GOP to squander their win. The animosity of the "mainstreamers" like Peter King and John McCain for people like Rand Paul will continue to hurt the GOP.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 01:29:21 PM »
The wave shoring things up in the various states will be the long term improvement.

A second "non-recall year" win for Governor Walker here in WI, and the addition of voter ID to cement things, and help blunt the fraud gaps in Milwaukee and Madison will be important.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 01:31:12 PM »
Unfortunately, I suspect the conservative wave we're most likely to see is all the real conservatives waving to say "bye folks; we can't fix what refuses to be fixed."

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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2014, 01:32:55 PM »
Representative democracies always go left. It's an inexorable process, that can't be reversed. You let people vote, they vote for the .gov to give them "free" stuff. Maybe you can delay it a bit but it is inevitable.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2014, 01:46:19 PM »
I'm under 55 and I get it. :)

Ditto. Auto Focus starred Greg Kinnear as Crane and offered a dark interpretation of his off-screen...proclivities, and theory of his murder.

Re: the OP, I'm with the consensus that this election will shuffle the deck, but in no way change the crooked deal.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2014, 02:00:51 PM »
All is well, knowing that the current GOP POTUS frontrunner candidate is none other than the new and fresh-faced Mike Huckabee:
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Mike Huckabee gears up for 2016 run

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Mike Huckabee is leading the Republican presidential race in Iowa. And not by just a point or two: in a new CNN survey, the former Arkansas governor, winner of the 2008 Iowa caucuses, is at 21 percent, with his closest GOP pursuer, Rep. Paul Ryan, nine points behind. Rand Paul is 14 points back, Chris Christie and Jeb Bush 15 behind.

Few frontrunners choose not to run. And when Huckabee, not yet a candidate and officially undecided, invited a group of reporters to meet with him at a hotel outside Washington Monday, he certainly looked like a man preparing to jump into the race.

Why, the enthusiasm I would show if given the opportunity to vote for a Huckabee/Ryan ticket in 2016 can hardly be measured!  Only slightly less enthusiastic than for a Jeb Bush/Christie ticket.   Hey, I hear McCain is tanned, rested, and ready.  Maybe a Dole/McCain ticket is the ticket.

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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2014, 05:05:13 PM »
The problem I see in Texas and Louisiana is a number of left leaning or even liberal Democrats running as Republicans and winning or eroding the conservative vote such that the Democrat wins.  Michael Berry has talked about the Senate race in Lousisiana being like that.  One of the Republican guys has a history of supporting and contributing to Democrats.

IMO, stuff like that is part of what makes it hard to see any changes. 
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2014, 05:52:40 PM »
Why, the enthusiasm I would show if given the opportunity to vote for a Huckabee/Ryan ticket in 2016 can hardly be measured!  Only slightly less enthusiastic than for a Jeb Bush/Christie ticket.   Hey, I hear McCain is tanned, rested, and ready.  Maybe a Dole/McCain ticket is the ticket.

Norris/Nugent '16 all the way.

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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2014, 06:52:36 PM »
Representative democracies always go left. It's an inexorable process, that can't be reversed. You let people vote, they vote for the .gov to give them "free" stuff. Maybe you can delay it a bit but it is inevitable.

There is much truth in what you say, Balog.  This is something I have maintained for quite a long time.  I often liken the leftward drift to an aging process.  The republic, as it ages, eventually succumbs and falls due to this leftward drift.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2014, 06:59:05 PM »
If the GOP wins both the House and Senate, I can guarantee that there will be plenty of people complaining that it is either too conservative, not conservative enough or just right.

The same Representative or Senator will be labeled a NeoCon, RINO, NAZI or moderate depending upon who is branding them.

I'm already to the point, screw it, not matter how I vote or how many letters I write or if I volunteer to work party or campaign, things hardly every turn out how I would like them too.

So if as long as I get paid, laid and fed I'm not going to give a damn anymore. Life is too short to fester negative thoughts on things out of my control.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2014, 07:04:28 PM »
If the GOP wins both the House and Senate, I can guarantee that there will be plenty of people complaining that it is either too conservative, not conservative enough or just right.

The same Representative or Senator will be labeled a NeoCon, RINO, NAZI or moderate depending upon who is branding them.

I'm already to the point, screw it, not matter how I vote or how many letters I write or if I volunteer to work party or campaign, things hardly every turn out how I would like them too.

So if as long as I get paid, laid and fed I'm not going to give a damn anymore. Life is too short to fester negative thoughts on things out of my control.

We don't agree on much politically (hell, I even disagree with the preface of this post) but your basic point is correct. Outside of the local level, attempting to influence politics is fruitless unless you are one the of the groups lining up to give your congresscritter a string of $250,000 per "speaking engagements or a multi-million per yer sinecure on the board of directors or as an "adviser."
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2014, 08:01:05 PM »
We don't agree on much politically (hell, I even disagree with the preface of this post) but your basic point is correct. Outside of the local level, attempting to influence politics is fruitless unless you are one the of the groups lining up to give your congresscritter a string of $250,000 per "speaking engagements or a multi-million per yer sinecure on the board of directors or as an "adviser."

This is only true because
1. People are idiots and either don't vote, or are influenced by ads tailored to people who are idiots
2. See number 1.
With the exception of of the dem voter machine buying votes indirectly (see number 1) or directly (voter fraud), elections are still held, and incumbents can still lose.

The issue isn't money in politics, the sadder thing is it actually matters when elections roll around.

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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2014, 08:01:28 PM »
There is much truth in what you say, Balog.  This is something I have maintained for quite a long time.  I often liken the leftward drift to an aging process.  The republic, as it ages, eventually succumbs and falls due to this leftward drift.
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Re: There is a conservative wave coming
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2014, 08:37:29 PM »
If the GOP wins both the House and Senate, I can guarantee that there will be plenty of people complaining that it is either too conservative, not conservative enough or just right.

The same Representative or Senator will be labeled a NeoCon, RINO, NAZI or moderate depending upon who is branding them.

I'm already to the point, screw it, not matter how I vote or how many letters I write or if I volunteer to work party or campaign, things hardly every turn out how I would like them too.

So if as long as I get paid, laid and fed I'm not going to give a damn anymore. Life is too short to fester negative thoughts on things out of my control.

I'm sorry you've reached my level of cynicism. It's probably the more accurate position to hold in relation to reality though, so there's that :D

Unfortunately we're limited on how much we can actually know and we're reliant on untrustworthy sources for our information. After you find yourself regretting support you've given folks who turn out to do the opposite of what they've campaigned on, yet once again, the futility of it all starts to set in.

Family, friends, co-workers, neighbors, community, state then nation. The hierarchy of my sphere of influence and immediate concern is dictated by face time. I just don't have good data to go off of the farther away from my circle the issues reside.

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