Poll

If they are nominated would you vote for them?

Walker
18 (11.6%)
Bush
1 (0.6%)
Fiorina
21 (13.5%)
Trump
14 (9%)
Carson
20 (12.9%)
Jindal
13 (8.4%)
Kasich
2 (1.3%)
Paul
20 (12.9%)
Christie
0 (0%)
Cruz
25 (16.1%)
Perry
13 (8.4%)
Rubio
8 (5.2%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Voting closed: September 30, 2015, 10:39:36 AM

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September 2015 presidential election poll of Republicans
« on: September 10, 2015, 10:39:36 AM »
Who above is acceptable enough to you that you would actually vote for them?

I edited this to specify this is about Republicans because that is what my curiosity is about. An independent or third party candidate may in fact be a better fit for me but right now I'm looking at the Republican field.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2015, 11:38:08 AM »
I selected all of them except Jindal, Christie, Bush, and Paul.

NO, it's not that I LIKE them . . . in fact, except for Cruz I wouldn't be voting FOR them, I'd be voting AGAINST their opponent.

But I'd be holding my nose when I did so.

It's a shame . . . when our country was a small fraction of the size it is now, we still managed to elect people like Washington and Jefferson . . . though both of them DID have their faults.

Today, with a much, MUCH larger pool to choose from . . . look what the two parties keep giving us.  [barf]
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2015, 11:56:49 AM »
What keeps you from voting for Jindal? Or Paul?
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2015, 12:06:26 PM »
I selected all of them except Jindal, Christie, Bush, and Paul.

NO, it's not that I LIKE them . . . in fact, except for Cruz I wouldn't be voting FOR them, I'd be voting AGAINST their opponent.

But I'd be holding my nose when I did so.

It's a shame . . . when our country was a small fraction of the size it is now, we still managed to elect people like Washington and Jefferson . . . though both of them DID have their faults.

Today, with a much, MUCH larger pool to choose from . . . look what the two parties keep giving us.  [barf]
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2015, 12:08:16 PM »
Or Walker?

It would be a great rebuke to the unionistas and butthurt leftys in WI to see him elected, but personally, other than it meaning the Democrat wins, I'd rather see him stay in WI for another term or two and continue the un-screwing of our state for another 4-8 years.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2015, 01:11:12 PM »
Right now any of them are going to be better than the alternative.

As for better candidates, those that would be are smart enough to stay out of national politics.  Too much soul selling that has to be done plus the money that has to be spent just to be seen.

Sorry it has gotten to be not about who can do the job but who can buy and/or be bought to do the job.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2015, 01:45:46 PM »
Why no democrats or third party choices?
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2015, 02:06:20 PM »
Why no democrats or third party choices?
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2015, 02:38:08 PM »
I recognize why Trump is in the poll, but I wish he weren't. I can no longer abide him. While I never would have voted for him, I mentioned numerous times here that  I thought his raising "uncomfortable" issues for the Republicans was good.

I think it was Jindal who just said that Trump is "unstable", and I have to agree at this point. He doesn't know the difference between Afghanistan and any other "stan", didn't know the difference between Hezbollah and Hamas, and then blames the questioners for being mean to him for asking. Sorry, the other candidates did their homework on one of the most important parts of the job - you should have too.

I've also completely lost any respect I had for his bringing up topics like immigration etc., because his constant "people are mean to me" comments, followed by, "He/she is a poopy head" is a clear indicator of a guy who won't be able to make it on the international stage. Can you imagine what Putin would do if Trump's tactic would be to call him a poopy head and say that his mother dresses him funny? Putin would eat him for lunch.

I still agree with several of his points on immigration, the economy, etc., but this guy shouldn't be put with 1000 miles of the big chair or the big red button. Some goat herder will make fun of his toupee, and the next thing you know, we'll be in global nuclear war.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2015, 02:46:10 PM »
Where's the "none of the above" button?

I thought there were 17 folks trying to become the R contestant.  Has my brain farted again?

Why not do a forced-choice of one and only one?  With no "none of the above" or write-in possible?  Even more fun if you did it "Lifeboat" style requiring an explanation of why you threw someone to the sharks until the lone survivor emerges.

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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2015, 02:52:27 PM »
No Democrats or others because this poll was meant to focus on the Republicans only. I guess I should have indicated that in the title.

The folks I included are those who poll above 0% regularly.

While I will never say "I will never vote for a Democrat"; truth is it would have to be an incredibly unusual situation.  

Being able to choose multiple candidates will give us a better idea where they stand with APS.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2015, 03:52:43 PM »
Why no democrats or third party choices?


I'll assume you're just joking about the Democrats.

As for third party candidates, I haven't heard about any. Haven't looked for any. Have you seen any good ones?
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2015, 04:15:31 PM »
No Democrats or others because this poll was meant to focus on the Republicans only. I guess I should have indicated that in the title.


Fair enough. :) I saw you changed the title.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2015, 04:16:17 PM »

I'll assume you're just joking about the Democrats.

If hell freezes over and Jim Webb gets the nomination, it will be the first time I voted Democrat in the POTUSA race.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll of Republicans
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2015, 05:03:22 PM »
I'll choose among any living protoplasm who gets on any ticket that doesn't offer the current dem choice(s).

And in response to the Trump-bashing, I don't care if Trump doesn't know the technical/geopolitical differences between the 'Stans right now.  If/when necessary and able to do something about them, he'll learn right quick and effect a plan relating thereto that doesn't involve sacrificing U.S. interests.

Five'll getcha eight that he's even done that already in response to the original question about them.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll of Republicans
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2015, 05:12:40 PM »
I'll choose among any living protoplasm who gets on any ticket that doesn't offer the current dem choice(s).

And in response to the Trump-bashing, I don't care if Trump doesn't know the technical/geopolitical differences between the 'Stans right now.  If/when necessary and able to do something about them, he'll learn right quick and effect a plan relating thereto that doesn't involve sacrificing U.S. interests.

It really does show just how far low Obama has set the bar.  One guesses that for whatever faults he has, Trump at least "likes America" more or less, and would prefer to see Western Civ continue and prosper.  =|
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2015, 05:26:07 PM »
It really does show just how far low Obama has set the bar.  One guesses that for whatever faults he has, Trump at least "likes America" more or less, and would prefer to see Western Civ continue and prosper.  =|

How true, and one could extend that "low bar" concept to other weasel-wording politicians.  Though I too am =| (undecided), Mr. Trump has been saying what I have been wanting to hear. even though it's too early and impractical as of now, to make a decision.

Except for the protoplasm part of it.

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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2015, 11:37:49 PM »
Or Walker?

It would be a great rebuke to the unionistas and butthurt leftys in WI to see him elected, but personally, other than it meaning the Democrat wins, I'd rather see him stay in WI for another term or two and continue the un-screwing of our state for another 4-8 years.

My brother keeps saying the same thing. He doesn't want to lose Walker as governor. On the other hand, he doesn't think Walker would make a good candidate or president, although he hasn't clarified why he says that.  Walker has a strong record to run on, although he's not the most conservative of the bunch.

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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2015, 09:17:43 AM »
My brother keeps saying the same thing. He doesn't want to lose Walker as governor. On the other hand, he doesn't think Walker would make a good candidate or president, although he hasn't clarified why he says that.  Walker has a strong record to run on, although he's not the most conservative of the bunch.

His personal optics and vocal delivery are weak. Just him, his looks, his body.

I think he'd make a good president, but I'm pessimistic enough to think that the GOP in Congress will not do enough to allow him to make the real difference we need.
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2015, 10:06:26 AM »
His personal optics and vocal delivery are weak. Just him, his looks, his body.

I think he'd make a good president, but I'm pessimistic enough to think that the GOP in Congress will not do enough to allow him to make the real difference we need.

That is a great point!
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2015, 02:51:20 PM »
That is a great point!
Walker hasn't pushed a lot through in WI, it's more that he moderated some of the ideas coming from the republican legislature, signed the bills that made it to his desk, then acted as a lightning rod for criticism/hatred from the left. He could have pushed harder to get mining in the state, not to mention I think he completely screwed the pooch on the indian casino deal... If I were him, I would not only have gotten the casino deal done, but would have encouraged the tribe to open one in milwaukee as well if only to completely screw over and bury the potowotami scumbags.

Well, that one the indians had WI by the short-n-curlies... if one tribe vetoed a new casino, and the state went ahead, then the agreements with ALL the tribes were void, and didn't have to pay, even if the other tribes had agreed on the new casino. Doyle set that one up in a craptastic way, probably for some serious backroom deal/graft, but that his time as AG meant he knew how to structure it to leave him untouchable.

Then AFAIK, the agreements between WI and the tribes would have been in federal court for years and years.  And WI would have gotten none, or a pittance of any back pay held in abeyance by the tribes.

Personally, I too would have done it for the "have a spine" and honeybadger factor alone, for the long term gains to show that the tribes can't push the state around. However, there would have been fallout for years had he done it, with significant fiscal losses for the state. While I wouldn't have done what Walker did, it was enough of a 50/50, mutually-assured-destruction, Catch-22 situation, I won't Monday Morning Quarterback him on it.

But indeed, Walker is a "good governor" but he's not the hard-as-nails take no prisoner conservative he's made out to be. He avoids shitstorms and controversy wherever he can, his skill is really more reactive, in not backing down, and the willingness to endure and not give in once the shitstorm starts.

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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2015, 03:19:14 PM »
What keeps you from voting for Jindal? Or Paul?
Jindal became governor of LA after Katrina, right? If I remember correctly, he talked a good game, but did nothing to bring the rogue cops (including some out-of-staters) to justice for their actions in NOLA, which included robbing people, stealing their guns, pushing old women around and kidnapping them, etc.

Paul seems like a good senator (much like his daddy was a good congressman) but there's just something about him that tells me I don't want him in the Oval Office. (Chairman of the Federal Reserve might be a good spot for him, or Secretary of the Treasury)
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Re: September 2015 presidential election poll
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2015, 04:16:29 PM »
Jindal became governor of LA after Katrina, right? If I remember correctly, he talked a good game, but did nothing to bring the rogue cops (including some out-of-staters) to justice for their actions in NOLA, which included robbing people, stealing their guns, pushing old women around and kidnapping them, etc.

Paul seems like a good senator (much like his daddy was a good congressman) but there's just something about him that tells me I don't want him in the Oval Office. (Chairman of the Federal Reserve might be a good spot for him, or Secretary of the Treasury)

This.

The Libertarian thing seems to be largely an act, and one he doesn't always completely understand. Occasionally dodging hard-Left thinking it will create the impression, rather than to actual Liberty. Although I concede that it could be the MSM just painting him that way.
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