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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/05/22/libertarian-vp-candidate-likens-trumps-immigration-policy-to-kristallnacht/

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Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union With Jake Tapper,” former Massachusetts governor and current vice presidential nominee on the Libertarian party ticket William Weld said the presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s immigration policy is like the infamous Kristallnacht night of the Holocaust.

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TAPPER: Let’s talk about immigration. You’ve differed with Donald Trump sharply on this issue of mass deportation, his plan to deport the estimated 11 million or 12 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. You told The New York Times about that plan, ‘I can hear the glass crunching on Kristallnacht in the ghettos of Warsaw and Vienna when I hear that.’ Kristallnacht or crystal night in English from the Holocaust, the shards of broken glass that littered the streets after Jewish-owned stores, businesses and synagogues had their windows smashed by angry anti-Semitic mobs. Is that a little strong, you think, to talk about the Holocaust?

WELD: No, no. I don’t think so. I served five years on the U.S. Holocaust Commission by appointment of President George W. Bush and by the way, Israel never had a stronger friend in the White House, and I’m — that was my request, and I’m absolutely certain that as we said in those years, if we don’t remember, we absolutely will forget. And you got to forget a lot of things to think it’s a good idea to round up and depart 1 million people living peaceably, most of them working in America, in the middle of the night. No, not the United States. China maybe, not the United States.

1. Bill Weld?  The squishy Republican from wayback?  GOPe castoffs for the loss.  I know the LP is all socially liberal sex-positive cool-cats, but nobody with any pride boasts of getting sloppy seconds.

2. Is this "Peak Holocaustianity?"  Or can it degenerate even führer further, with political goobers hiring on "gait analysts" to suss out the goose step in Donald's swagger?

3. Not sure if this is an improvement over arguing whether to privatize the sidewalks.
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Enforcing the law, as it currently exists, is JUST LIKE THE HOLOCAUST!!!!

HOW can you not see that, dirty Trumper!??!?
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"Enforcement of existing law."

Now where could I have heard that before?

Hm.
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Unfettered immigration is one of the primary reasons I stopped considering the L party a legitimate option when voting.

Flooding the country with unskilled third worlders as well as skilled workers from socialist welfare states will not lead to increased liberty.
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Or can it degenerate even führer further, with political goobers hiring on "gait analysts" to suss out the goose step in Donald's swagger?



Let's get the CDC on that, right away.
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1. Bill Weld?

Why did I read that as "JB Weld"?
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Enforcing the law, as it currently exists, is JUST LIKE THE HOLOCAUST!!!!

HOW can you not see that, dirty Trumper!??!?

I completely missed it in all the Trump/Lincoln kerfluffle, what with all the accusations that Lincoln was a fascist and the fascist iconography surrounding Honest Abe.





It looks to some like a posthumous endorsement of the Donald has caused a reappraisal of Abe's administration:

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Why did I read that as "JB Weld"?

JB Weld is actually useful to have around.  Bill Weld not so much.
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Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union With Jake Tapper,” former Massachusetts governor and current vice presidential nominee on the Libertarian party ticket William Weld

They make it sound like the L.s have already picked a candidate.

I'm about as thrilled with a(nother) former Mass gov running, as I am with anybody from NYC.
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Unfettered immigration is one of the primary reasons I stopped considering the L party a legitimate option when voting.

Flooding the country with unskilled third worlders as well as skilled workers from socialist welfare states will not lead to increased liberty.

Nor will it provide jobs for the almost 16 million people already in the workforce who need work.

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15,868,000: The total number of individuals “underemployed” was 15.9 million during January 2016. This includes those individuals who are unemployed (7.8 million), those who want a job but are no longer looking for work (2.1 million) and those individuals who are working part-time because no other work was available (6 million).

Source: https://freedompartners.org/latest-news/putting-u-s-unemployment-numbers-in-context-january-2016/
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Nor will it provide jobs for the almost 16 million people already in the workforce who need work.

Well, get on that.  Somebody's got to work and pay taxes so the illegals can get free education and health care.

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The fasces were used by Roman magistrates as a symbol of their office and jurisdiction.   It is also frequently found in other US iconography as part of symbol of various offices and parts of government.  In fact the US Army Military Police Corps uses it in their regimental crest and is frequently found as part of various unit crests and shoulder sleeve insignia.

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Given that is prevalent through out US government (like on the wall behind the Speakers Podium in the House of Representatives), perhaps our resident Magistrate should change his avatar to one?
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The fasces were used by Roman magistrates as a symbol of their office and jurisdiction.   It is also frequently found in other US iconography as part of symbol of various offices and parts of government.  In fact the US Army Military Police Corps uses it in their regimental crest and is frequently found as part of various unit crests and shoulder sleeve insignia.

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Given that is prevalent through out US government (like on the wall behind the Speakers Podium in the House of Representatives), perhaps our resident Magistrate should change his avatar to one?

Sure, sure, I know my history.  But why should fact get in the way of anyone calling someone a fascist or nazi?  It doesn't stop anyone else as far as I can see.
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You forgot the back of the Mercury dime, and for that matter, the torch on the back of the current dime looks a lot like they just modified a fasces a bit.

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You forgot the back of the Mercury dime, and for that matter, the torch on the back of the current dime looks a lot like they just modified a fasces a bit.

Aha!  Roman god Mercury, fascist Il Duce wanted to introduce a new Roman empire, the fascists were admired by the American Progressives who, in the gov't schools, indoctrinated our children...


"I'm not saying it's fascists..."

"But it's fascists!"
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^ Isn't that picture upside-down?

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ETA, Explanation:  I'm referring to the fact that he and his mistress were hung upside-down after they were caught.

Bad joke/wisecrack.  Oh, well.
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^ Isn't that picture upside-down?

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ETA, Explanation:  I'm referring to the fact that he and his mistress were hung upside-down after they were caught.

Bad joke/wisecrack.  Oh, well.


I thought that's what you meant, but I had no witty comeback, so...
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Twins, separated at birth?

   
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Aha!  Roman god Mercury, fascist Il Duce wanted to introduce a new Roman empire, the fascists were admired by the American Progressives who, in the gov't schools, indoctrinated our children...

I did not know until now that the Roman salute was used by civilians to salute the US flag before 1942.

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"But it's fascists!"

At least he made the trains run on time ;)
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I did not know until now that the Roman salute was used by civilians to salute the US flag before 1942.

At least he made the trains run on time ;)

It sure feels like fascism a whole lot, but it our fascists can't keep the airline security running on time.  How did we end up with the sucky, can't-tie-their-own-shoelaces kind of fascism?
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At least he made the trains run on time ;)

Well, yes, but:
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It sure feels like fascism a whole lot, but it our fascists can't keep the airline security running on time.  How did we end up with the sucky, can't-tie-their-own-shoelaces kind of fascism?
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Considering the the OP it's ironic that the Brown Shirt tactics of street violence and intimidation are only being used by the natural allies of the Libertarian Party, ie the open borders crowd.






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Considering the the OP it's ironic that the Brown Shirt tactics of street violence and intimidation are only being used by the natural allies of the Libertarian Party, ie the open borders crowd.

In defense of the open border Libertarians, they are mostly useful idiots in this regard; not actual allies of the invaders.
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http://libertyhangout.org/2016/05/gary-johnson-shoots-himself-in-the-foot-throws-out-austin-petersens-gun/
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As a token of good faith, Austin gave Johnson a replica of George Washington’s flintlock pistol, to let him know that he has Austin’s full support in the general election. Tearing up on the front stage of the convention floor, Austin said to Gary as he presented him with the pistol, “You have my sword, and you have my gun.”

Hours later, a number of delegates were reporting on social media that Johnson was seen tossing Austin’s pistol in the garbage. A husband and wife witnessed Johnson throwing out the pistol and retrieved it from the garbage. The pistol has since been returned to Austin Petersen and remains in his possession.
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