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Title: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Ben on August 14, 2010, 11:15:43 AM
I wouldn't necessarily trust this a secure container to keep my guns in when I'm not around, but I think it's cool that a car company is bucking political correctness to advertise something like this. It reminds me of when I was a kid and every other pickup had a gun rack in the rear window. :)

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2010/08/13/chryslers-gun-toting-pickup-truck/?test=faces
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Tallpine on August 14, 2010, 11:24:40 AM
Hmmm, I wonder if a chainsaw would fit in there...?   =|

 :cool:
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: AJ Dual on August 14, 2010, 11:25:35 AM
It's because both Chrysler (and GM) needs desperately to appeal to the right/libertarians who are appalled at the fed.gov takeover.

They could make a model that has Dillon Aero miniguns on it with computer joystick controls and it wouldn't impress me nearly as much as ditching/breaking the UAW.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Firethorn on August 14, 2010, 11:44:32 AM
It's a truck even many liberals would be happy about - secure storage that's not accessable from the cab, and is targeted at the 'acceptable' hunting crowd.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Harold Tuttle on August 14, 2010, 11:47:41 AM
don't know if over the axle is a bump free ride

How long until the truck launches a round down the trail?
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Regolith on August 14, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
don't know if over the axle is a bump free ride

How long until the truck launches a round down the trail?

Well, if you're going to use it, you probably shouldn't be stowing the gun with a round in the chamber.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: French G. on August 14, 2010, 01:50:26 PM
I'm sure that non-government Ford will bring out similar soon. I'm also sure that thieves are rejoicing. A more useful in cab rack than the traditional window one is a rack mounted in the overhead. I only have one negative experience, my dad hit a bump and his Tikka combo gun freed itself and clobbered me on the head. Much less visible than the window racks though. Reminds me, I need to go check and wipe down the K-31 behind my seat, maybe even take it out before I go to Reserve duty next week.  =D
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Firethorn on August 14, 2010, 02:14:26 PM
I'm sure that non-government Ford will bring out similar soon. I'm also sure that thieves are rejoicing.

I think that depends on how robust the lock on the cabinet is; also how likely there is to be a gun/something valuable in that compartment compared to levering open the average trunk.

Personally, I'd hope that the compartment is also covered by the truck's security system.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: French G. on August 14, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
Lock?  =D

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Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: vaskidmark on August 14, 2010, 03:16:22 PM
Lurve the "commentary" - the rack can be rotated to hold six fishing poles for those who prefer quieter trips into the great outdoors.

And another $205 for the innards option - on top of the $1895 price of the RamBox feature itself?  How much does a standard steel toolbox cost?  http://www.aztrucks.com/product.asp?product=398 or http://www.buyautotruckaccessories.com/product.cfm/cf-bin/pn.owens-garrison-series-diamond-tread-wheel-well-tool-boxes/ .

I'm pretty sure that even I could put together a decent gun rack inside one of those boxes, beef up the gasketing, and improve the lock/security for quite a bit under $2K.  About the only thing it wouldn't have is the built-in look with matching paint job.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Firethorn on August 14, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
I'm pretty sure that even I could put together a decent gun rack inside one of those boxes, beef up the gasketing, and improve the lock/security for quite a bit under $2K.  About the only thing it wouldn't have is the built-in look with matching paint job.

If it's $2k for 'both sides' then it's quite a bit more fair.  Not going to say that it wouldn't be a vastly profitable option for them, but fairer.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Ben on August 14, 2010, 03:53:47 PM
I just wish I had something like that in my F250. It looks like a good use of the wheel well "dead space" as well as it appears, using part of the truck body. Even if I didn't store guns in it, that would be a lot of space for crap that's filling up the jumpseat on my extended cab, or that would be filling up useable parts of the bed if I got a truck box to put it all in.

The two grand is definitely a bit rich for my blood though.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: French G. on August 14, 2010, 05:24:58 PM
Oh, Ford needs to do this. I see solenoids, servos, I see front seat joystick controlled 1919s deploying from the boxes while rolling down the road.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 14, 2010, 06:12:46 PM
It looks cool, but I'd rather see something like that mounted to the back wall of the cab, inside.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Waitone on August 14, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
Blatant discrimination against pistol shooters.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Ben on August 14, 2010, 07:16:48 PM
It looks cool, but I'd rather see something like that mounted to the back wall of the cab, inside.

If it's a standard cab, yeah. I actually had more "out of the way" storage room in the cab on my old F150 than I have in my F250. The Fords I'm familiar with don't have behind the seat storage on extended cabs, only on the standard and crew cab models. I have under the seat storage for the back bench, but it's really limited.

I keep stuff like basic tools, emergency supplies, a rucksack with a change of clothes and shoes, etc. in the cab. It takes up the full seating area behind the drivers side so there's basically only room for one passenger in the back seat. Storage built into the bed sidewall, like on this Dodge, looks like it would hold all that stuff with room to spare. But I'm likely not buying a new truck for at least ten years, so c'est la vie. :)
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: MicroBalrog on August 14, 2010, 08:03:02 PM
Hasn't this been done before [and better] with the Ruger Ram?
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Tallpine on August 14, 2010, 08:30:21 PM
For that much money, I would start thinking about a utility box ...  =|
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: makattak on August 14, 2010, 09:54:20 PM
It's because both Chrysler (and GM) needs desperately to appeal to the right/libertarians who are appalled at the fed.gov takeover.

They could make a model that has Dillon Aero miniguns on it with computer joystick controls and it wouldn't impress me nearly as much as ditching/breaking the UAW.

Yep. I would REALLY like a Jeep. I'm never buying a Chrysler or Government motors product now, though. I'm quite glad we are already driving Fords, too.

Looking for a Ford, now, and that's the ONLY "American" car I'll look at.

It's a shame, too. That looks really cool. I still wouldn't take it if they gave it away.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: MechAg94 on August 14, 2010, 10:13:42 PM
It looks cool, but I'd rather see something like that mounted to the back wall of the cab, inside.
I would like to see either that or have that same area open from inside the truck bed.  At least then, it wouldn't be obvious to anyone walking by that your truck had a compartment there and you wouldn't have to worry about matching paint.  You could also put stuff or cross boards in the bed that would restrict easy access to the door.  I don't like that compartment being so visible.

How about a built in tool box at the front of the bed that is part of the truck. 

Didn't some past truck models have a built in tool box under the back seat or what that an aftermarket thing?
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Firethorn on August 14, 2010, 11:35:55 PM
I would like to see either that or have that same area open from inside the truck bed.  At least then, it wouldn't be obvious to anyone walking by that your truck had a compartment there and you wouldn't have to worry about matching paint.  You could also put stuff or cross boards in the bed that would restrict easy access to the door.  I don't like that compartment being so visible.

Consider the convenience factor - if you have something in the bed you won't be able to open the compartments, and they're only an option.

Part of the cost might be reinforcement of the side panels to hold the weight, waterproofing and whatnot.

Honestly enough, you could say the thing about trunk doors - and there's a lot more space inside of a trunk, and the same unsure expectation for a thief finding something valuable in there.  We might consider having guns in there 24x365, but the average 'hunter' type wouldn't.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: KD5NRH on August 15, 2010, 02:10:40 AM
This carries more guns for less money, and comes with a cool custom paint job and a roof hatch for the front seat gunner passenger.

http://www.pinzgauer.com/shpics.php?table=vehicles&idnum=37
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: freakazoid on August 15, 2010, 02:23:49 AM
What is the thing in the last picture, and does it come with the rope?  =)
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 15, 2010, 02:54:19 AM
It looks like a desk lamp to me.

Answer my question, what episode is your sig line from?
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: vaskidmark on August 15, 2010, 08:13:31 AM
No cupholders.  Where's a guy to put his coffee?

stay safe.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: KD5NRH on August 15, 2010, 08:17:07 AM
What is the thing in the last picture, and does it come with the rope?  =)

I'm guessing it is a lamp, since it's right over the big worktable, and pretty much everything in the vehicle would be included.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Tallpine on August 15, 2010, 08:45:37 AM
This carries more guns for less money, and comes with a cool custom paint job and a roof hatch for the front seat gunner passenger.

http://www.pinzgauer.com/shpics.php?table=vehicles&idnum=37

Hey, there's the camper van I've been looking for!  :cool:
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: seeker_two on August 15, 2010, 08:57:45 AM
I just wish I had something like that in my F250. It looks like a good use of the wheel well "dead space" as well as it appears, using part of the truck body. Even if I didn't store guns in it, that would be a lot of space for crap that's filling up the jumpseat on my extended cab, or that would be filling up useable parts of the bed if I got a truck box to put it all in.


Same here....I'm planning to install side-mounted tool boxes on my F-150 after I get the spray-on bedliner done. Easier to get to my stuff...and I still have my bed length (the width is already compromised by the rear wheel wells)....
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: brimic on August 15, 2010, 09:29:37 AM
I will only take criminals about 2 days to figure out how to break these 'gun boxes' open while doing $1800 worth of damage to the vehicle. No thanks.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: MillCreek on August 15, 2010, 09:52:45 AM
It looks like a desk lamp to me.

Answer my question, what episode is your sig line from?

One of the fine episodes of 'The Twilight Zone' starring Burgess Meredith.  The episode is called 'The Obsolete Man'.

Mr. Meredith also starred in what is widely considered amongst the very best episodes of 'The Twilight Zone', called 'Time Enough At Last'.  I really, really like that episode.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 15, 2010, 10:19:11 AM
One of the fine episodes of 'The Twilight Zone' starring Burgess Meredith.  The episode is called 'The Obsolete Man'.

Thanks.  Watching. 
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: MillCreek on August 15, 2010, 10:27:47 AM
Thanks.  Watching. 

I knew my copy of 'The Twilight Zone' anthology would come in handy some day.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: myrockfight on August 15, 2010, 12:43:55 PM
Lurve the "commentary" - the rack can be rotated to hold six fishing poles for those who prefer quieter trips into the great outdoors.

And another $205 for the innards option - on top of the $1895 price of the RamBox feature itself?  How much does a standard steel toolbox cost?  http://www.aztrucks.com/product.asp?product=398 or http://www.buyautotruckaccessories.com/product.cfm/cf-bin/pn.owens-garrison-series-diamond-tread-wheel-well-tool-boxes/ .

I'm pretty sure that even I could put together a decent gun rack inside one of those boxes, beef up the gasketing, and improve the lock/security for quite a bit under $2K.  About the only thing it wouldn't have is the built-in look with matching paint job.

stay safe.
The $1895 is the total Ram Box price. A little too pricey for my tastes, especially when the Hemi option is only $1300ish when your build your own. They really hit you up for the "luxury" options. I don't think I would be satisfied with my rifles being in the boxes....I don't know how secure I would feel about them being in a vehicle at all. I wouldn't be ok with them unless they were in proximity to me, or they had locks on the actions.

I don't think any of the options are great, but short of installing a safe, how secure are they going to get in a vehicle. Reality has its limits.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Firethorn on August 15, 2010, 01:24:41 PM
I will only take criminals about 2 days to figure out how to break these 'gun boxes' open while doing $1800 worth of damage to the vehicle. No thanks.

I'm willing to bet a lot less than 2 days.  As I mentioned earlier, I don't see them being any more difficult than car trunks.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: MillCreek on August 15, 2010, 02:04:51 PM
I wonder if there is an eyebolt or other attachment point in these boxes that you could loop a security cable through. I would run this through the trigger guards and lock it.  This would at least further slow down the thieves.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: KD5NRH on August 16, 2010, 12:18:39 PM
Hey, there's the camper van I've been looking for!  :cool:

Keep an eye on the site; every now and then he'll have one of the six-wheel-drive versions already converted for around $20k.  Towing capacity and fuel mileage are better than any other camper on the market, not to mention the ground clearance.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on August 16, 2010, 12:45:41 PM
I doubt the usefulness of the gun box, but it does show that the new Chrysler ownership gets it.  The recent Jeep advertising also seems to suggest that they now have people at the top who have a clue.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: charby on August 16, 2010, 12:57:16 PM
Ford already has it  (http://jalopnik.com/5303319/2009-ford-f+250-super-duty-cabelas-edition-first-drive)

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Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on August 16, 2010, 01:08:07 PM
Those sidebox gun lockers on the Dodge Ram make it impossible to use them as well as a camper shell.

Fistful had it right (spooky, but true):

It looks cool, but I'd rather see something like that mounted to the back wall of the cab, inside.

Then you could use a camper shell.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Tallpine on August 16, 2010, 01:17:33 PM
Keep an eye on the site; every now and then he'll have one of the six-wheel-drive versions already converted for around $20k.  Towing capacity and fuel mileage are better than any other camper on the market, not to mention the ground clearance.

Actually, I was looking for something like that about 35 years ago.  I'm kinda out of the mood now.  But at one point I was wondering about trying to live in an old Power Wagon ambulance...  =|
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 16, 2010, 02:53:11 PM
Actually, I was looking for something like that about 35 years ago.  I'm kinda out of the mood now.  But at one point I was wondering about trying to live in an old Power Wagon ambulance...  =|

http://www.pinzgauer.com/shpics.php?table=vehicles&idnum=15

Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 16, 2010, 03:46:32 PM
PS:
I always thought the ultimate outdoor pickup accessory was the "flip-pac".  Hard to come by, though.
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: charby on August 16, 2010, 03:48:02 PM
PS:
I always thought the ultimate outdoor pickup accessory was the "flip-pac".  Hard to come by, though.

I think this is better (http://www.bumperdumper.com/)
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 16, 2010, 05:05:31 PM
I think this is better (http://www.bumperdumper.com/)

That had to have been inspired by the Red Green show.  =D
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Antibubba on August 17, 2010, 11:49:19 AM
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I'm also sure that thieves are rejoicing.

But so am I--now I don't have to lose my guns on a "boating accident"!   =D

Tallpine, I once heard someone say that the 2 happiest days in a Pinzgauer owner's life are the day they buy it, and the day they sell it.   :lol:
Title: Re: Chrysler's Gun-Toting Pickup Truck
Post by: Tallpine on August 17, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
Tallpine, I once heard someone say that the 2 happiest days in a Pinzgauer owner's life are the day they buy it, and the day they sell it.   :lol:

That was about the way it was with my old D-2 Cat.  =(

Thank god and peterbuilt she's gone  =D