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Title: Oh, d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 23, 2008, 12:24:35 PM
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Electric cars are the way of the future, McCain declared, and to underscore the point met reporters after the meeting beside a battery-powered Tesla Roadster. The sports car goes from zero to 60 in less than four seconds and produces zero tailpipe emissions, but retails for $100,000. The manufacturer compares it to cell phones that cost $2,000 in1985.
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"Hydrogen is one of the future sources of energy in America," he added. "It's clean. It's good. But there's a lot of challenges. That's why we've got to let a thousand flowers blossom: Wind, tide, solar..."

McCain said the urgency of it all prompted him to reverse his position on off-shore drilling, last week calling for an end to a federal moratorium that is grounded in environmental concerns. He emphasized that drilling decisions should be left to states, but in answer to a question said he remains skeptical that drilling can be done safely in the "pristine" Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (commonly called ANWR), even though Alaskans overwhelmingly favor drilling there.

*facepalm*

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/23/mccain_talks_energy_in_califor.html

How did we get to a choice between a Marxist and this dork, who is the only choice that's not the Marxist? HOW?!

And hydrogen is not an energy SOURCE, it's an energy storage MEDIUM. You have to MAKE it. GAHHHHH!
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: stevelyn on June 23, 2008, 12:40:11 PM
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How did we get to a choice between a Marxist and this dork, who is the only choice that's not the Marxist? HOW?!


Well............................Where would you like to start?

Shall we start with voting for "voting for who is most likely to be elected?

Or.........How about not voting for someone because we're afraid to break from the party line?

Hmmmm? Hmmmm? Hmmmm?

It is the voter's blind stupidity for voting the status quo that has given us the two monkeys you have to choose from.

Whoever gets in is exactly who we deserve.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on June 23, 2008, 12:42:35 PM
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And hydrogen is not an energy SOURCE, it's an energy storage MEDIUM. You have to MAKE it. GAHHHHH!

That's fistful's fault.

McCain saw him putting a garden hose in the water tank input of the Straight Talk Express, and came over to talk with him.  Fistful started talking all sorts of nonsense about unicorns, kindness, the golden rule and cars running on water... then asked him to apologize to his mule!

"Mule?  What mule?" McCain glanced around worriedly.  "We don't allow their kind around here."

Fistful patted him on the shoulder and praised him for being a good "alternative" to Obama, and handed him the water-hose as he walked off, shaking his head.

To this day, McCain thinks he was in a gas station. grin
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 23, 2008, 12:57:15 PM
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How did we get to a choice between a Marxist and this dork, who is the only choice that's not the Marxist? HOW?!


Well............................Where would you like to start?

Shall we start with voting for "voting for who is most likely to be elected?

Or.........How about not voting for someone because we're afraid to break from the party line?

Hmmmm? Hmmmm? Hmmmm?

It is the voter's blind stupidity for voting the status quo that has given us the two monkeys you have to choose from.

Whoever gets in is exactly who we deserve.


Uh, no.  If you're talking about how McCain got the nomination, it's actually because a lot of conservatives were doing the exact opposite.  We were voting for the one we thought was really the best guy.  The only problem was, that turned out to be about five different guys.  Thus the conservative vote was split, and the moderates (and cross-over Dems) won. 
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: El Tejon on June 23, 2008, 01:12:31 PM
Are we to use coal or nuclear power to make hydrogen, John?
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: agricola on June 23, 2008, 01:28:12 PM
Vote Barr - because he already knows the difference between an energy source and an energy storage medium, even if you have to go onto Wikipedia and look it up.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Finch on June 23, 2008, 01:38:48 PM
Just grab the popcorn and watch this country crumble, we are screwed either way, might as well get a few laughs from it....
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: yesitsloaded on June 23, 2008, 04:41:32 PM
Oil up the guns as the country goes to hell, eh? I'm going to stock up on Guy Fawkes masks, mall ninja daggers, and capes. Is there any law against voting in costume? I suppose I have to leave the daggers at home.







Yes I am joking
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: longeyes on June 23, 2008, 05:16:29 PM
McCain--to buy time, that's all.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on June 23, 2008, 05:22:21 PM
I figure McCain will be about as bad as Carter.  We survived Carter, didn't we?  I mean, mostly?

 undecided

I'm still not sure I could vote for him, though.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 23, 2008, 10:16:06 PM
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How did we get to a choice between a Marxist and this dork, who is the only choice that's not the Marxist? HOW?!

You elected him for the nomination. grin

You now fully deserve to have him as your candidate.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 23, 2008, 10:18:53 PM
McCain--to buy time, that's all.

Now that is a campaign slogan.

Bogie, fire up the presses.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Finch on June 23, 2008, 11:54:50 PM
McCain--to buy time, that's all.

Buy time for what? If something hasn't been done by now...it's not gonna happen...
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: seeker_two on June 24, 2008, 01:28:18 AM
I figure McCain will be about as bad as Carter.  We survived Carter, didn't we?  I mean, mostly?


Nope....he's as bad as Dole, Dukakis, Kerry, and Mondale.....but without the chance of winning that they had....
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Nitrogen on June 24, 2008, 03:42:18 AM
McCain--to buy time, that's all.

Now that is a campaign slogan.

Bogie, fire up the presses.

I saw a GREAT bumper sticker here in DFW the other day.
"Vote McCain: Because I love my country more than I hate McCain."

Earlier this year, I was all ready to hold my nose and vote for Obama; but I think I've SEEN THE LIGHT and will vote for the *expletive deleted*che over the turd sandwich.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 24, 2008, 03:58:47 AM
I was thinking of doing a McCain poster, myself.

A guy in a gasmask with a polling-station sign behind him. And a slogan of "Vote McCain. Yeah, he's awful, but he's not as bad as Obama."

Inspiring, isn't it.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 24, 2008, 04:04:26 AM
I was thinking of doing a McCain poster, myself.

A guy in a gasmask with a polling-station sign behind him. And a slogan of "Vote McCain. Yeah, he's awful, but he's not as bad as Obama."

Inspiring, isn't it.

Am I allowed to gloat?
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: roo_ster on June 24, 2008, 04:39:47 AM
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How did we get to a choice between a Marxist and this dork, who is the only choice that's not the Marxist? HOW?!

You elected him for the nomination. grin

You now fully deserve to have him as your candidate.

IIRC, I voted for your boy when Texas had its primary.

So I could at least have the satisfaction of an inverse Kerry: I voted against McCain before I voted for him.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Waitone on June 24, 2008, 05:16:43 AM
Ya know, we've done some really good things as a country.  And some really bad things.  Whoda thunk a presidential election was all about Karma?
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 24, 2008, 05:18:18 AM
I was thinking of doing a McCain poster, myself.

A guy in a gasmask with a polling-station sign behind him. And a slogan of "Vote McCain. Yeah, he's awful, but he's not as bad as Obama."

Inspiring, isn't it.

Am I allowed to gloat?

Only if you want to live up to the local stereotype of the Paulians that people can't stand.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Nitrogen on June 24, 2008, 05:35:41 AM
I'm still annoyed that Richardson didn't make the Democratic primary.
Shows how stupid Democrats are: The most qualified person arguably on EITHER party, and he gets overshadowed by a woman who was married to our previous democratic president, and a black dude who people like for some reason, but can't articulate why.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Manedwolf on June 24, 2008, 05:38:56 AM
I'm still annoyed that Richardson didn't make the Democratic primary.
Shows how stupid Democrats are: The most qualified person arguably on EITHER party, and he gets overshadowed by a woman who was married to our previous democratic president, and a black dude who people like for some reason, but can't articulate why.

 
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   *  Allowed giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. (Nov 2007)
    * Driver's license for illegals helps public safety. (Nov 2007)
    * Declared state of emergency in NM's four border counties. (Nov 2007)
    * We pay for immigrant healthcare; have them pay into system. (Sep 2007)
    * Increase H-1B visas to permit more skilled workers. (Sep 2007)
    * Border wall is horrendous example of misguided policy. (Sep 2007)
    * Federal raids are ineffective; we dehumanize immigrants. (Sep 2007)
    * Sanctuary cities ok until we have comprehensive policy. (Sep 2007)
    * Include same-sex couples in binational marriage sponsorship. (Aug 2007)
    * Comprehensive reform needed; but McCain-Kennedy bill flawed. (Jun 2007)
    * McCain-Kennedy bill is not amnesty; it has strong standards. (Jun 2007)
    * A wall on Mexican border is not America. (Jun 2007)
    * A wall divides families and doesn't solve the problem. (Jun 2007)
    * The 2007 immigration bill is not an amnesty bill. (Jun 2007)
    * Opposes compromise immigration bill: it tears apart families. (May 2007)
    * Border fence hasn't worked; border patrols & tech have. (May 2007)
    * Driver's licenses & scholarships for illegals; not amnesty. (May 2007)
    * Legalization plan, not this stupid wall being proposed. (Mar 2007)
    * Declared state of emergency on Mexican border. (Nov 2006)
    * Path to legalization if illegals pay taxes & learn English. (Nov 2006)
    * Reduce immigration; no automatic citizenship for kids. (Nov 1996)
    * Guarantee human services to illegal immigrants. (Nov 1996)

Wouldn't vote for him anyway.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Nitrogen on June 24, 2008, 05:45:51 AM
I was talking about experience, not positions on issues; I still hate everyone running.

Instead of being "*expletive deleted*che vs. Turd Sandwich" it'd have been "stale danish vs. day old tuna"

Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: longeyes on June 24, 2008, 05:52:45 AM
McCain: the finger in the dike. grin
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: mtnbkr on June 24, 2008, 06:06:02 AM
McCain: the finger in the dike. grin

What's Rosey got to do with this?

Chris
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Balog on June 24, 2008, 06:07:43 AM
Chris, the image that conjures up will haunt me for the rest of my days. I'm sending you my therapy bills. angry
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: HankB on June 24, 2008, 06:21:14 AM
I'm still annoyed that Richardson didn't make the Democratic primary.
Richardson seems to be the kind of guy I could argue with over a couple of beers at the local watering hole . . . probably wouldn't see eye to eye on much, but I think we could part on civil terms.

The other Dems were/are raving Marxist moonbats by comparison . . . including their presumptive nominee.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: longeyes on June 24, 2008, 07:28:21 AM
Obama: Change--because it's cool, that's all.

McCain: After me, the deluge. grin
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 24, 2008, 08:37:37 AM
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How did we get to a choice between a Marxist and this dork, who is the only choice that's not the Marxist? HOW?!

You elected him for the nomination. grin

You now fully deserve to have him as your candidate.

Who elected him?  I doubt it was anybody in this thread. 
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: seeker_two on June 24, 2008, 10:08:09 AM


Earlier this year, I was all ready to hold my nose and vote for Obama; but I think I've SEEN THE LIGHT and will vote for the *expletive deleted*che over the turd sandwich.

Now that's a bumper sticker worthy of Bogie's production....  grin
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: wacki on June 24, 2008, 03:22:02 PM
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Electric cars are the way of the future, McCain declared, and to underscore the point met reporters after the meeting beside a battery-powered Tesla Roadster. The sports car goes from zero to 60 in less than four seconds and produces zero tailpipe emissions, but retails for $100,000. The manufacturer compares it to cell phones that cost $2,000 in1985.
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"Hydrogen is one of the future sources of energy in America," he added. "It's clean. It's good. But there's a lot of challenges. That's why we've got to let a thousand flowers blossom: Wind, tide, solar..."

McCain said the urgency of it all prompted him to reverse his position on off-shore drilling, last week calling for an end to a federal moratorium that is grounded in environmental concerns. He emphasized that drilling decisions should be left to states, but in answer to a question said he remains skeptical that drilling can be done safely in the "pristine" Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (commonly called ANWR), even though Alaskans overwhelmingly favor drilling there.

*facepalm*

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/23/mccain_talks_energy_in_califor.html

How did we get to a choice between a Marxist and this dork, who is the only choice that's not the Marxist? HOW?!

And hydrogen is not an energy SOURCE, it's an energy storage MEDIUM. You have to MAKE it. GAHHHHH!

I highly doubt that McCain doesn't understand that.  So, care to explain what is so bad about an alternative energy x-prize?  It's not going to be as effective as a Manhattan project but it's a low cost, low risk technique.  What is wrong with that?
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: The Annoyed Man on June 24, 2008, 03:44:45 PM
Nothing at all, as long as the money was not involuntary collected from taxpayers. If it is all donated voluntary then I think it is an excellent idea! In fact, I'd consider donating for this cause...
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: lupinus on June 24, 2008, 04:57:31 PM
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You elected him for the nomination.
Actually, I voted for Huckabee.  How McCain won is beyond me.  How Romney got so many votes is even more beyond me.

But I'm realistic enough to realize there is no really better alternative in this election, there is no viable third party candidate, and voting to try and prove some sort of point is like rushing the machine gun nest to prove my honor.  Yes I've made my point, but where did it get me?

So I will hold my nose.  Voice my disgust as needed.  But I will do damage control and vote for the guy who will screw up the country less.  Because frankly it's less damaging then voting to make a point knowing it will be for nothing.
Title: Re: Oh, g*d*mmit, McCain!
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 24, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
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Who elected him?  I doubt it was anybody in this thread.

Fistful. You are truly trying to persuade me this is not your fault? grin