« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3

Author Topic: Iowa results  (Read 7712 times)

charby

  • Necromancer
  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29,295
  • APS's Resident Sikh/Muslim
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2012, 08:50:09 AM »
Quote from: MicroBalrog on January 04, 2012, 08:34:26 AM
Why do you want to remove the entire field?


(Ron Paul, Romney, and Santorum now have six delegates each)

Iowa doesn't work that way. National Delegates will be picked at the GOP State Convention and they can vote any way they want to.

We are not a primary state so delegates are not assigned according to candidates.
Report to moderator   Logged
Iowa- 88% more livable that the rest of the US

Uranus is a gas giant.

Team 444: Member# 536

erictank

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,410
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2012, 09:08:59 AM »
Quote from: Jamie B on January 04, 2012, 07:38:38 AM
Michelle needs to go.
Huntsman needs to go.
Perry needs to go.
Paul needs to go.
Newtie needs to go.

You can't honestly be saying that ROMNEY is the best candidate?!? [barf] Why not just be honest and vote for freakin' Obama?

Look, I get that not everyone likes Ron Paul, who despite the deliberate ignorance by the Mass Media (except for spouting off about the same crap they spouted - and which Paul refuted - during Election Season 2008) turned in a very close third to the Republican Anointed One and the come-from-behind Acceptable Establishment Alternative in Iowa's Caucus. His results seem to me to be rather promising, actually, and I look forward to seeing the results from other states' primaries.  When an openly-libertarian candidate, someone who actually respects the Constitution (rather than merely giving lip-service), can garner 22% of the vote in a Republican caucus that actually inspires some HOPE in me.

And I don't regard the 26,219 people who voted for Paul as being all that much less significant a group than the 30,015 who voted for Romney. There's not *THAT* big a difference in the vote totals there... or Iowa's got an awful lot of "hardcore Wookiees"  ;/ as compared to stalwart, stand-up, righteous, regular-old Republican voters.
Report to moderator   Logged

geronimotwo

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,796
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2012, 09:26:11 AM »
^^^  what he said

Quote from: RevDisk on January 03, 2012, 09:46:24 PM
How did Santorum do so well?  He is not liked in his home state.  Old school Palace Guard GOP

if campaign money spent in iowa matters, ron paul is by far the winner

santorum perry spent 2.5m  edited to correct

romnet spent 1.5m

paul spent 900k!

« Last Edit: January 04, 2012, 10:16:21 AM by geronimotwo »
Report to moderator   Logged
make the world idiot proof.....and you will have a world full of idiots. -g2

MicroBalrog

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,505
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2012, 09:38:51 AM »
Quote from: geronimotwo on January 04, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
^^^  what he said

if campaign money spent in iowa matters, ron paul is by far the winner

santorum spent 2.5m

romnet spent 1.5m

paul spent 900k!


So where did the millions he raised go?
Report to moderator   Logged
Destroy The Enemy in Hand-to-Hand Combat.

"...tradition and custom becomes intertwined and are a strong coercion which directs the society upon fixed lines, and strangles liberty. " ~ William Graham Sumner

makattak

  • Dark Lord of the Cis
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13,022
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2012, 09:39:28 AM »
Quote from: geronimotwo on January 04, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
^^^  what he said

if campaign money spent in iowa matters, ron paul is by far the winner

santorum spent 2.5m

romnet spent 1.5m

paul spent 900k!

...what?

Santorum doesn't even HAVE $2.5M. I believe on the radio, I heard that Romney spent $10M and Santorum spent $500K.

So who's the winner in efficiency?

Oh, and, from 12/27:

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/27/gop-candidates-super-pacs-have-spent-10-million-on-tv-radio-pitches-in-december/

Quote
Paul’s campaign falls next in line at $1.37 million
Report to moderator   Logged
I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

geronimotwo

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,796
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2012, 10:11:53 AM »
i am looking for a link, oops, perry spent the 2.5 not santorum.

http://www.wqad.com/news/kstu-iowa-ad-spending-down-but-negative-ads-up-20120102,0,1079582.story
« Last Edit: January 04, 2012, 10:18:45 AM by geronimotwo »
Report to moderator   Logged
make the world idiot proof.....and you will have a world full of idiots. -g2

TommyGunn

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7,956
  • Stuck in full auto since birth.
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2012, 11:30:31 AM »
Quote from: sumpnz on January 04, 2012, 02:22:01 AM
Mittens takes it by 14 votes over Santorum.  Margin of victory 0.01%.  Wookie came in third.  She turned me into a Newt 4th, Gov. Good Hair 5th (and going back to TX to "reasses" his path to the nomination).  Bachmann 6th and vowing to fight on. 

Cain beat Roemer.  Both got beaten by "No Preference", and "Other". 

I keep hearing on the news it was 8 votes ......  ???
Report to moderator   Logged
MOLON LABE   "Through ignorance of what is good and what is bad, the life of men is greatly perplexed." ~~ Cicero

agricola

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,248
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2012, 11:50:24 AM »
Bachmann quit, Perry hasnt.
Report to moderator   Logged
"Idiot!  A long life eating mush is best."
"Make peace, you fools"

TommyGunn

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7,956
  • Stuck in full auto since birth.
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2012, 12:29:30 PM »
Quote from: agricola on January 04, 2012, 11:50:24 AM
Bachmann quit, Perry hasnt  yet.

FIFY
Report to moderator   Logged
MOLON LABE   "Through ignorance of what is good and what is bad, the life of men is greatly perplexed." ~~ Cicero

Blakenzy

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,020
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2012, 12:40:57 PM »
When did Bachmann quit? Her speech last night post results certainly didn't lead that way...
Report to moderator   Logged
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both"

wmenorr67

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,775
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2012, 12:57:10 PM »
Report to moderator   Logged
There are five things, above all else, that make life worth living: a good relationship with God, a good woman, good health, good friends, and a good cigar.

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.  One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

Bacon is the candy bar of meats!

Only the dead have seen the end of war!

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2012, 02:00:52 PM »
Quote from: erictank on January 04, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
You can't honestly be saying that ROMNEY is the best candidate?!? [barf] Why not just be honest and vote for freakin' Obama?
The dead weight needs to exit the race.
I never rendered an opinion to the best candidate.

You can't be that much of a drama queen, can you?
Report to moderator   Logged
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

MicroBalrog

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,505
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2012, 02:30:03 PM »
So everybody but the top 2 in Iowa are 'dead weight'?

Newt, who is leading in nationwide polls, is dead weight?

What kind of definition of dead weight are we using here?
Report to moderator   Logged
Destroy The Enemy in Hand-to-Hand Combat.

"...tradition and custom becomes intertwined and are a strong coercion which directs the society upon fixed lines, and strangles liberty. " ~ William Graham Sumner

makattak

  • Dark Lord of the Cis
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13,022
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2012, 02:38:29 PM »
As much as I want a lot of these contenders to drop out now, Micro has a very good point.

In 2008, in Iowa, McCain garnered ~15% of the vote. Iowa is not really a great indicator of dead weight.

I am glad Bachmann dropped out, though. (Not that I hate her, she just was clearly not going to win. Maybe her 6% will go to a not-Romney, now.)
Report to moderator   Logged
I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2012, 02:44:27 PM »
Newtie has too much baggage and ego, and will not make the final cut.

Huntsman and Perry will never make it, but cannot recognize it just yet.

Wait and see.
 
Report to moderator   Logged
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

MicroBalrog

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,505
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2012, 02:52:19 PM »
Quote from: Jamie B on January 04, 2012, 02:44:27 PM
Newtie has too much baggage and ego, and will not make the final cut.

Huntsman and Perry will never make it, but cannot recognize it just yet.

Wait and see.
 

At least make Romney work for it.
Report to moderator   Logged
Destroy The Enemy in Hand-to-Hand Combat.

"...tradition and custom becomes intertwined and are a strong coercion which directs the society upon fixed lines, and strangles liberty. " ~ William Graham Sumner

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,435
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2012, 03:08:22 PM »
Quote from: erictank on January 04, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
You can't honestly be saying that ROMNEY is the best candidate?!? [barf] Why not just be honest and vote for freakin' Obama?

I didn't see Santorum on his list. I think that was the point.
Report to moderator   Logged
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2012, 03:13:03 PM »
Quote
author=fistful link=topic=32963.msg657133#msg657133 date=1325707702]
I didn't see Santorum on his list. I think that was the point.


You are exactly correct.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2012, 06:37:03 PM by Jamie B »
Report to moderator   Logged
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,435
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2012, 04:22:21 PM »
Quote from: Jamie B on January 04, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
You are exactly correct.

Why does everybody keep telling me that?  =)
Report to moderator   Logged
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

Harold Tuttle

  • Professor Chromedome
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,069
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2012, 04:49:18 PM »
Report to moderator   Logged
"The true mad scientist does not make public appearances! He does not wear the "Hello, my name is.." badge!
He strikes from below like a viper or on high like a penny dropped from the tallest building around!
He only has one purpose--Do bad things to good people! Mit science! What good is science if no one gets hurt?!"

seeker_two

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,922
  • In short, most intelligence is false.
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2012, 08:45:50 PM »
Quote from: Jamie B on January 04, 2012, 07:38:38 AM
Michelle needs to go.
Huntsman needs to go.
Perry needs to go.
Paul needs to go.
Newtie needs to go.

FIFY.....
Quote from: agricola on January 04, 2012, 11:50:24 AM
Bachmann quit, Perry hasnt.

Perry is hoping to win SC & leverage that into a VP slot....it's his last chance at an elected office....he's pretty much done as governor here.....
Report to moderator   Logged
Impressed yet befogged, they grasped at his vivid leading phrases, seeing only their surface meaning, and missing the deeper current of his thought.

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2012, 10:30:19 PM »
Quote from: seeker_two on January 04, 2012, 08:45:50 PM
FIFY.....
Perry is hoping to win SC & leverage that into a VP slot....it's his last chance at an elected office....he's pretty much done as governor here.....
Term limits, or patience limits?
Report to moderator   Logged
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

roo_ster

  • Kakistocracy--It's What's For Dinner.
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 21,225
  • Hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2012, 11:40:58 PM »
Quote from: Jamie B on January 04, 2012, 10:30:19 PM
Term limits, or patience limits?

The latter.  Too much exposure. 
Report to moderator   Logged
Regards,

roo_ster

“Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.”
----G.K. Chesterton

Northwoods

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8,347
  • Formerly sumpnz
Iowa Results
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2012, 11:41:31 PM »
 
Quote from: TommyGunn on January 04, 2012, 11:30:31 AM
I keep hearing on the news it was 8 votes ......  ???

The 14 vote margin was from early reports from a live blogging of the caucuses.
Report to moderator   Logged
Formerly sumpnz

roo_ster

  • Kakistocracy--It's What's For Dinner.
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 21,225
  • Hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats
Re: Iowa results
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2012, 11:43:14 PM »
Quote from: MicroBalrog on January 04, 2012, 02:30:03 PM
So everybody but the top 2 in Iowa are 'dead weight'?

Newt, who is leading in nationwide polls, is dead weight?

What kind of definition of dead weight are we using here?

The not dead yet kind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A
"I feel happeeeee..."
Report to moderator   Logged
Regards,

roo_ster

“Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.”
----G.K. Chesterton
Pages: 1 [2] 3
« previous next »