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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on January 13, 2022, 05:48:49 PM
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For those of us who carry a revolver as an EDC or BUG: do you carry additional ammunition? If so, how much and how do you carry it?
When I carry one of my Ruger or Taurus revolvers concealed, I also drop into my pocket a MTM ammo wallet with six additional rounds. On very rare occasions, and I cannot explain why I choose one over the other, I swap out the ammo wallet for the appropriate HKS speedloader, carried loose in the pocket. When I am doing woods carry, I use a 12 round MTM ammo wallet.
Of late, I have been reading some material that casts doubt on the value of the typical armed citizen with a revolver carrying a reload. In the opinion of some, the situations requiring a reload and being able to do so rapidly are exceedingly few and far between. Bear in mind that I am a middle-aged healthcare executive who generally does not hang around with Stupid People doing Stupid Things in Stupid Places at Stupid Times. What says the Collective about a revolver reload?
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When I carry a revolver it is usually a S&W 642 and I carry two sets of reloads on a speed strip in my rear pocket. When I carry my 610 I carry two spare reloads on a moon clip holder on my belt on the weak side. So yes, I carry reloads with my revolvers.
bob
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For those of us who carry a revolver as an EDC or BUG: do you carry additional ammunition?
Yes.
If so, how much and how do you carry it?
If so, a speedloader or two in my back pocket, or a speed strip there, or in a pouch on the belt. Depends.
S&W J or Taurus 605, Safariland 5 shot Comp whatever. The Taurus 856, the 6 shot Safariland. Ruger LCR, an "Ammo pod" thing. Will find a link later. (Revision CV ammo pod (http://www.revisioncv.com/catalog/3)). The Safarilands don't, alas, work with the LCR.
Charter Bulldog, some speed strips. (Bianchi has .44 speed strips now.) I have an HKS twisty loader for it. I just don't know where it is right now.
How much? 5 to fifteen rounds.
When I carry one of my Ruger or Taurus revolvers concealed, I also drop into my pocket a MTM ammo wallet with six additional rounds. On very rare occasions, and I cannot explain why I choose one over the other, I swap out the ammo wallet for the appropriate HKS speedloader, carried loose in the pocket. When I am doing woods carry, I use a 12 round MTM ammo wallet.
Of late, I have been reading some material that casts doubt on the value of the typical armed citizen with a revolver carrying a reload.
Yeah, probably. The what-ifs involving multiple opponents do not (right now, for me) outweigh the advantage (I perceive) of a small revolver.
In the opinion of some, the situations requiring a reload and being able to do so rapidly are exceedingly few and far between. Bear in mind that I am a middle-aged healthcare executive computer tech who generally does not hang around with Stupid People doing Stupid Things in Stupid Places at Stupid Times. What says the Collective about a revolver reload?
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If I'm carrying my S&W 642 or S&W 60 I've got a couple of speed strips in the off side pocket.
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The only wheelgun I ever carried for social work was a Brazilian 1917 .45 ACP. I used a single speed-loader pouch with two full moon clips stacked inside for a total of 18 rounds on my person.
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A view from a non-revolver guy:
In the civilian "gunfight" world reloads that matter are exceedingly rare. One of the gun-tubers that tracks that stuff says he knows of only 1 case where the reload mattered. I forget which gun-tuber it was; maybe Jeff Gonzales or Kyle Lamb.
Anyway, if you don't actively practice reloads from your speed strip or speed loader, what is the point of carrying one? Reloading from a speed strip is really slow. Glacially slow. The speed loader is much quicker by comparison, but not that quick unless your name is Jerry Miculek.
So, if you think you wll have a need to reload your six-shooter, carry something with more ammo. There are a ton a small semi-autos that hold 10+ rounds. My compact Sig P365 holds 12 and it is the size of a J-frame.
I no longer carry a spare mag for my semi-autos. I prefer to carry a small package (That's what she said!) that hides well but still holds 10+ rounds.
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Every revolver I have from five-shot to seven-shot, has at least two speedloaders with it.
I now only carry, like another here, a J-Frame with a speedloader in my pocket and one in my belly pack, which contains checkbook, first aid stuff, cell phone, etc, but is left in the car 99% of the time.
Terry, 230RN
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A view from a non-revolver guy:
In the civilian "gunfight" world reloads that matter are exceedingly rare. One of the gun-tubers that tracks that stuff says he knows of only 1 case where the reload mattered. I forget which gun-tuber it was; maybe Jeff Gonzales or Kyle Lamb.
What's his name, John Corrreia, the Active Self Protection channel guy.
Anyway, if you don't actively practice reloads from your speed strip or speed loader, what is the point of carrying one? Reloading from a speed strip is really slow. Glacially slow. The speed loader is much quicker by comparison, but not that quick unless your name is Jerry Miculek.
So, if you think you wll have a need to reload your six-shooter, carry something with more ammo. There are a ton a small semi-autos that hold 10+ rounds. My compact Sig P365 holds 12 and it is the size of a J-frame.
I no longer carry a spare mag for my semi-autos. I prefer to carry a small package (That's what she said!) that hides well but still holds 10+ rounds.
General principles. Would rather have a loaded gun than an empty one.
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Might be Correia. I haven't watched him in a while.
General principles. Would rather have a loaded gun than an empty one.
Good reason. Much better than, "I need more ammo for more bad guys."
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When I carry one of my 5-shot revolvers, I have a speed strip in my strong side rear pocket. The strip can hold six rounds but I only load five to leave more room to grasp the strip. I know the odds of needing to reload are slim to none but, for many of us, the whole CCW decision is already based more on consequences than probabilities.
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When I carried a Smith 340SC I normally carried one speed strip. Rarely a Speed Loader. Sometimes when I really need to be incognito I carry a NAA so talk about glacial reloads. With a Semi that holds more than 8 or so rounds I sometimes don’t even carry a reload. I know it isn’t best practice, but I’m never going to purposely engage in a gunfight and not be trying to extricate myself. I can only carry so much in my pockets or on my belt and not print or look like Batman.
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So, if you think you wll have a need to reload your six-shooter, carry something with more ammo.
This.
I own three revolvers, and used to carry a J frame - usually as a backup to a 1911. I sometimes carried spare mags for the 1911 but I didn’t regularly carry extra rounds for the revolver. I don’t think I even own a speed loader, speed strip, cartridge wallet or anything.
If a revolver were my only gun - or my primary - then I would probably want it to be more flexible, including wanting a way to carry more ammo.
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If it is my infamous 642 in my pocket no reloading except if I am not dead I start getting all stabby. Lately become more anti social somehow so carrying a 325. Full moonclips are the answer to portable ammo. I just toss a few in my pocket. I am pretty quick on those.
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My 642 is my reload for my G43...
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An empty gun is a poor club.
I carry an Officer's size 1911, capacity 6+1. I carry an extra magazine.
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I used to carry a .38 Special revolver. (now I don't carry anything; I really should renew my license) I carried a speed strip or two. That was to reload after the gunfight was over (if I was still standing) in case it wasn't really over. The bad guy might have friends just around the corner. Reloading in the midst of a gunfight wasn't likely to happen.
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An empty gun is a poor club.
My Ruger SP-101 and Security Six snubbies want you to know they make excellent clubs. The LCR, not so much.
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Same as most of the rest. S&W 638 and a speed strip for my day to day. On a day where I want more, it's the same gun in a pocket and a G19 with reloads. I don't go out of my way to diverse areas so the J frame and a speed strip have always seems like plenty of gun.
In the current day i've felt better about having a nasty can of OC as a force multiplier. tayquon' / ladariujus/ whatever hoodrat name you please, If I have enough warning they're getting nuked with non lethal. Even if the situation called for lead, If I can get away with spicy air I will.
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Taurus 617 7 shot .357 with a spare speedloader oh the hip.
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i carry a 642, based largely on that ancient thread "the 642 club" from the ancient thr
Totally forgotten what i was told tho. :rofl:
currently, my threat level is very low, i do not even have a proper ccw permit ( plan on changing that before summer )
i carry going to the car and it is in the car most of the time. I often, but not always, carry 15 loose rounds in my front right pocket ... once i get my ccw permit back i will be carrying speed loaders .
when the threat level is higher, i carry a glock 22 in a bianchi retention holster plus two mags in the same configuration i did during armed security days and cab driving
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I carry 2 speedloaders
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My primary CCW is a Smith & Wesson 042 Centennial in a pocket holster (separate thread on that).
I generally do not carry additional ammunition, but when I do it's usually 5 rounds in a Bianchi speed strip.
I also have several speed loaders for my various J frames but I've not carried those in quite a few years.
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I mostly carry a 637 S&W owb with .38 +p. I don't carry any reloads because my pockets are already full of other crap. If I go venturing off into the woods, I carry a m-66 S&W owb with .357 mag and a couple speed loaders on my weak side or in the pocket of my jacket if it's cooler out. I carry extra because the odds are I'm hunting (I do hunt with a handgun at times) and the odds are greater I could run into a tweaker looking for an opportunity. I shot the *expletive deleted*it out of that k frame when I used to shoot IDPA or IPSEC so I and very comfortable with speedloaders.
I do want to get a 629 or m-29 as my new rural firearm, but I don't feel undergunned with .357, even when chasing bears in the north woods.
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Meh. Get a 329, moar fun.
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Meh. Get a 329, moar fun.
The 637 is already a handful,. I just shoot my .454 if I really need to punish my hands.
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I have a small ammo pouch that carries 6 rounds in elastic loops. It goes in a pocket or can go on a belt.
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I will have to agree with the "get more gun" guys.
I have an LCR that I really like. It was my best compact option when I still lived in CA. I don't carry it much these days because I have a P365 and a P238, both of which carry more rounds and are easier to conceal.
That said, my predominate carry gun is still my 1911, so at 8+1 rounds, I'm really not that far above revolver guys in capacity. I more often than not don't carry a spare mag, especially for local runs to the store and what not or when it's on me on the farm.
I've never been in a gunfight. There are plenty of expert opinions - some mentioned here. Refer to Fly320's post. If you are in the "reloads are rare" camp, there is no reason, in local EDC - going on a trip or something is different - to carry extra rounds in any "speedloader" configuration. If you want extra revolver rounds just to have, stick them in whatever. Auto guys of course have it easier with a spare mag. As 320s said, if you're not practicing reloads (and that goes for us auto guys too) at least a couple of times a week, if you find yourself in a "tactical reload" or "I'm out and the slide locked back" situation in a real fight, you are at a severe disadvantage.
If you really think you are going to need more rounds in a gunfight, get a gun that holds more rounds. That's your reload. A Sig P365 that holds 12 rounds is the reload for a revolver. Or I, for instance, swap out the 8 round 1911 for the 15+1 round FNX45. The bigger gun is my reload.
Again, not knocking revolvers as I carry the old guy 1911. However if you really think you're gonna need a tactical reload, get a gun that gives you more ammo in the first place, then hope things don't go to *expletive deleted*it where you have to go for that speedloader or spare mag. Still practice reloads though.
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I have become really untactical living in the sticks. Except for the part where you never know exactly where I will have a gun, but I do...
That said I certainly subscribe to the more capacity camp because if there is a bigger magazine I have bought it. I do not understand however the people who do not carry a spare mag for the bottom stuffers. That is remedy attempt #1 for many problems you may encounter.
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On occasion I carry a 642 in an Uncle Mike's pocket holster and a speed strip. The loaded speed strip actually fits in the holster.
I don't carry the extra rounds for during, they're for after - if there is one. I don't like to have an empty firearm.
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As IL-ANNOY doesn't allow OC (and barely allows CC), I don't actually "carry". What I do have is a custom belt and holster on which I have 2 black nylon pouches with a single SpeedLoader in each. I also have a leather box that can hold an entire 50 round box of ammo (.357).
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As IL-ANNOY doesn't allow OC (and barely allows CC), I don't actually "carry". What I do have is a custom belt and holster on which I have 2 black nylon pouches with a single SpeedLoader in each. I also have a leather box that can hold an entire 50 round box of ammo (.357).
Are you in Mordor-by-the-lake, aka Chicago? out where I'm at, there are very few places I can't carry.
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Are you in Mordor-by-the-lake, aka Chicago? out where I'm at, there are very few places I can't carry.
No. I'm in southwestern IL, not too far from St. Louis. My problem is that I go to too many doctors (usually for my elderly parent) and those people even get bent out of shape because of the single blade folder I wear on my belt. Most, being in hospitals or other "medical facilities", ban all weapons. When I point out how the stick pens (Bic, et. al) they use could be considered a weapon, they have a tendency to get red in the face. =D
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I carry 2 speedloaders
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Yours? What grips?
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The Next Generation of Revolver Speed Strips From Zeta6
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/01/22/zeta6-revolver-speed-strips/
Looks pretty cool. I am curious how the rounds are peeled off. Is it the same as a traditional speed strip or did they change it up a little?
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Yours? What grips?
Was my dad's. The grips are Roger's Combat Grips. The gun is a S&W 10-8. Still have it. My wife LOVES it.
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"I am curious how the rounds are peeled off. Is it the same as a traditional speed strip or did they change it up a little?"
I suspect it's the same for standard speed strips -- drop the shells part way into the cylinder and then roll your hand over to pull the speed strip off the case head.