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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: makattak on May 07, 2018, 09:43:39 AM

Title: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: makattak on May 07, 2018, 09:43:39 AM
School boards lie. They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers on the spot.

Our prescient Hawkmoon, foreshadowing THIS story (from the last one where Broward County School Board was lying):

http://news.wjct.org/post/stoneman-douglas-shooter-was-assigned-controversial-broward-discipline-program-officials-admit

For weeks, and now months, Broward County schools have insisted that the "Promise" program that purposely didn't punish criminal students had absolutely nothing to do the murderer at the school.

And now it is forced to admit that the murderer WAS assigned to that program... and that he didn't even complete it because the incompetents at the school didn't even make sure he reported for their foolish program.

The lying superintendent, who clearly is more concerned about his job and his ideology than keeping students safe said, previously:

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“Let me reiterate this point,” Runcie started off during an interview in his office last month. “<redacted,because he deserves to be nameless>, the shooter that was involved in this horrific accident at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, had no connection to the PROMISE program... I’m not going to allow a shift from what our focus needs to be to a fictitious narrative that’s being made up about a successful program that we have in Broward County that has no connection to the shooter or the situation at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.”

Allow me to translate. "GET BACK TO TRYING TAKING LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS' GUNS AND STOP LOOKING OUT OUR MASSIVE MALFEASANCE!"

Seems that pretty much everyone in a position of authority in Coward Brounty Broward County is looking to deflect from their failures and push gun control, instead.
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: MechAg94 on May 07, 2018, 10:42:10 AM
The level of incompetence, corruption, and bureaucratic nonsense involved with that county, sheriff's office, and school district is almost hard to comprehend. 
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 07, 2018, 11:25:10 AM
The level of incompetence, corruption, and bureaucratic nonsense involved with that county, sheriff's office, and school district is almost hard to comprehend. 

It would make a great story, if the NRA wasn't a much juicier villain for the press to slander.
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: dogmush on May 07, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: Superintendent Runcie
Let me reiterate this point, ..... the shooter that was involved in this horrific accident at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, had no connection to the PROMISE program.

Wait, what?  Accident? WTF?
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 07, 2018, 05:05:18 PM
Seems that pretty much everyone in a position of authority in Coward Brounty Broward County is looking to deflect from their failures and push gun control, instead.

Pretty much. Ayup.
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 07, 2018, 05:07:32 PM
Wait, what?  Accident? WTF?

He was quoted from an interview. I'm willing to believe that he said "incident" and the incompetent "journalist" wrote "accident." They both end with "dent," what's the difference?
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: RoadKingLarry on May 07, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
The only thing accidental about the shooting was how the Broward county cowards (aka Sheriff's Dept) and the PC based negligence of the school administration was allowed to be made public.
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: grampster on May 07, 2018, 08:03:27 PM
It was not an "accident" or "incident".  It was a murderous crime.  But then if the Supt. was to say that, he would not be able to blame the gun.
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: freakazoid on May 07, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
Kind of posted about this before and the much larger problems that resulted from it, http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=56804.0
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966854507744374784.html
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: freakazoid on May 14, 2018, 01:22:58 AM
Still trying to keep information from getting out, http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-district-stonewalling-20180510-story.html
Following a link from there to an article talking about the school trying to keep video from being released, http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-parkland-shooting-video-release-appeal-20180501-story.html At the end it mentions that the Sheriffs office is investigating the possibility that several BSO deputies failed to enter the school, not just Peterson.
Title: Re: They do what they want to do and, if questioned, they just make up answers
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 14, 2018, 07:44:00 AM
Talk about bureaucratic doublespeak!

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School district spokeswoman Tracy Clark said the district has provided accurate information to investigators, the press and the public as fast as possible and “any suggestion that the district is not being forthcoming is either based on a misunderstanding or misinformation.”

“The district continues to focus on responding in a timely and accurate manner to the unprecedented number of public records requests, media requests and subpoenas related to the tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School,” she said in an email. “In addition, we have coordinated numerous interviews with employees as part of the various ongoing investigations. Both the State Attorney’s Office, through the Broward Sheriff’s Office, and the Public Defender’s Office have been given complete copies of the records related to Nikolas Cruz that have been gathered to date.”

Not a school district, but I worked in a public agency for five years -- a municipal building department. Each address that had any activity had a file, and any document that pertained to that address went into that file. If there was an inquiry pertaining to a particular address, it took less than a minute to go to the file area and pull that file. Why would it be any different for a student? One name -- one file.

And why would multiple requests make it orders of magnitude harder? Even if documents had to be collected from multiple locations, given the amount of interest in this case it's a no-brainer to then keep the records (or copies thereof) in one location or file, ready to respond to the next inquiry. The stonewalling is obvious.

From the second article:

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The sheriff’s office is investigating allegations by other agencies that several BSO deputies, not just Peterson, failed to enter the school to help wounded students or engage Cruz when they arrived on the scene.

The shooting was on February 14. It's May 14. That's three months. How long can it take to ask each deputy who responded, "Did you enter the building or did you stay in the parking lot?" Officers from the neighboring/overlapping city police department were quoted the day after the event as saying they went past Broward deputies hiding behind patrol cars outside as they (the officers from the municipal PD) entered the building. Just ask them. This is NOT an investigation that requires three-plus months.