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Title: Beto questions whether we should be governed by the constitutions principles
Post by: Ron on January 17, 2019, 10:13:26 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/beto-orourkes-immigration-plan-no-wall-but-no-specifics/2019/01/15/f6e36fac-15ea-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8f03502f3738
“Throughout the two-hour interview — which was often interrupted by bystanders urging him to run for president — O’Rourke boomeranged between a bright-eyed hope that the United States will soon dramatically change its approach to a whole host of issues and a dismal suspicion that the country is now incapable of implementing sweeping change.

When asked which it is, O’Rourke paused.

“I’m hesitant to answer it because I really feel like it deserves its due, and I don’t want to give you a — actually, just selfishly, I don’t want a sound bite of it reported, but, yeah, I think that’s the question of the moment: Does this still work?” O’Rourke said. “Can an empire like ours with military presence in over 170 countries around the globe, with trading relationships…and security agreements in every continent, can it still be managed by the same principles that were set down 230-plus years ago?”


Title: Re: Beto questions whether we should be governed by the constitutions principles
Post by: MikeB on January 17, 2019, 10:36:29 AM
Just shows how uneducated people like Beto are. We aren’t an empire, empires take stuff or directly govern and tax from those places they keep troops. Most of our troops are there to protect the places they are and we pay for them. Also they are a deterrent to certain countries militaristic tendencies. I’m looking at you Germany specifically and Europe in general. Also Japan for that matter. Europe couldn’t go a decade if not a year without widespread war for probably 2000 years until the US said enough is enough after WW2. Now you can argue and I might even agree that we shouldn’t be the world police, but the fact is that the whole world more often than not is better with those US troops in the vast majority of locations. Hardly an empire though ...
Title: Re: Beto questions whether we should be governed by the constitutions principles
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2019, 11:41:39 AM
He received a whole bunch of campaign donations in his failed Senate run against Cruz that he never spent.  Sounds like he is using that money to pump up his national image with Leftist Democrats. 
Title: Re: Beto questions whether we should be governed by the constitutions principles
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 17, 2019, 01:44:23 PM
Crap like that is why I'm NOT a fan of a new Constitutional Convention.  The proponents make it out like it would be a libertarian wet dream come true but there is too small a percentage of the people that would likely be involved that actually understand the concept of real liberty.
Title: Re: Beto questions whether we should be governed by the constitutions principles
Post by: MechAg94 on January 17, 2019, 03:14:48 PM
Crap like that is why I'm NOT a fan of a new Constitutional Convention.  The proponents make it out like it would be a libertarian wet dream come true but there is too small a percentage of the people that would likely be involved that actually understand the concept of real liberty.

Yeah, even many of the people you might vote for wouldn't have the right mindset for that.  We would end up with a Constitution that came in volumes like the IRS regulations.