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ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« on: February 17, 2012, 01:25:42 AM »
I believe its snowing in Hades
http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/phillynow/2012/02/14/aclu-sues-city-of-philadelphia-on-behalf-of-gun-rights-activist/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=aclu-sues-city-of-philadelphia-on-behalf-of-gun-rights-activist

Truly a strange turn of events, I guess me telling the folks raising $$ for the ACLU that I can't contribute due to anti 2A stance has finally worked ( lol, didn't tell em I was broke too )
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 01:34:02 AM »
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 07:38:20 AM »
I'm flabbergasted.  The next thing I'm expecting to see is pigs flying and it not be fistful's fault.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 07:41:42 AM »
False flag operation? Make such a lousy presentation of the case that open carry gets gutted, for the sake of the children of course.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 08:12:02 AM »
they sent a black lawyer to va to defend a guy for a cross burning. a very good lawyer who was sucessful
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 08:16:04 AM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on February 17, 2012, 08:12:02 AM
they sent a black lawyer to va to defend a guy for a cross burning. a very good lawyer who was sucessful

You can defend freedom and have lulz.  They are not mutually exclusive.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 08:58:40 AM »
Frankly, it may all be a result of the Heller decision.  Prior to Heller, the prevailing theory among legal scholars was that 2A was a collective right, not an individual right.  Never agreed with that theory personally, but every Constitutional law professor I've come across in my career has held that position.  After Heller, the Supreme Court has expressly held that it is an individual right.  The ACLU has long held themselves out as being the one true defender of individual Constitutional rights.  Heller dropped 2A in their laps.  Glad to see they have (at least in this instance) been true to their stated mission, regardless of conservative/liberal or right/left politics.  What I would be interested to see is how their liberal base responds to this stance on 2A...
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 09:26:13 AM »
Disregard that last post from me.  I just jumped onto the ACLU page, and see that they are still advocating that 2A is a collective right, and that some restrictions on types or firearms are appropriate.  Oh well, can't change a leopards spots, can you?
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 09:35:55 AM »
Given the ACLU considers welfare & such a "right," I am not overly confident in their judgment.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2012, 10:46:50 AM »
I think the organization is aware of the increasing disdain in which they are held, and their slide into irrelevance. This case offers them a chance to possibly recoup some credibility, given the cultural shift on gun rights.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 01:07:08 PM »
Quote from: SADShooter on February 17, 2012, 10:46:50 AM
I think the organization is aware of the increasing disdain in which they are held, and their slide into irrelevance. This case offers them a chance to possibly recoup some credibility, given the cultural shift on gun rights.

As long as they aren't an one hit wonder.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 06:40:07 PM »
State ACLU chapters often have different policies than the ACLU as a whole. For instance, the TX ACLU is fairly pro-gun.

Could be the case here.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2012, 08:43:26 PM »
Quote from: Regolith on February 17, 2012, 06:40:07 PM
State ACLU chapters often have different policies than the ACLU as a whole. For instance, the TX ACLU is fairly pro-gun.

Could be the case here.

This....but having a state ACLU aboard is a good thing....
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2012, 04:35:00 AM »
I'm surprised that the tape survived.  I heard several mentions of recording, so the LEOs knew about it, unless they were referring to the dash cams.

Real easy to have a recorder slide off a car hood or roof and get run over or stepped upon accidentally.

I'm also mildy surprised that a Sergeant did not know about the Directive.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2012, 12:11:16 PM »
Quote from: 230RN on February 18, 2012, 04:35:00 AM
I'm surprised that the tape survived.  I heard several mentions of recording, so the LEOs knew about it, unless they were referring to the dash cams.

Real easy to have a recorder slide off a car hood or roof and get run over or stepped upon accidentally.

I'm also mildy surprised that a Sergeant did not know about the Directive.

If this is the case I'm remembering, the digital recorder was "accidentally" dropped and stepped on. Repeatedly. It's just that the "accidents" failed to destroy it.
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Re: ACLU takes open carry case ( the philly one )
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 11:33:53 AM »
You suppose maybe the ACLU wants to actually lose the case? 

Just a nagging thought I was afraid to express at first.

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