Author Topic: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!  (Read 5348 times)

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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2013, 07:57:38 PM »
You have to get a spark at the point where there is a mix of air and vapors.  You are not going to get that with a cell phone in your ear without some serious gas leak.  In the video, he had to bring an open flame right up to the nozzle.  The biggest danger with smoking to me is ashes falling near the nozzle or on the ground where gas may have spilled. 
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2013, 08:00:20 PM »
Most of the stations I've seen have overhead suppression systems. I don't know if they are automatic or manual activation.

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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2013, 06:43:13 AM »
But but but, it says "Do not use cellphones" right on the pump(s)!
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2013, 07:33:26 AM »
Cell phones aren't a problem.  Urban legend.

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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2013, 08:12:09 AM »
The whole issue with phones is that they are not Explosion Proof. Its not likely to ignite gasoline vapors, though I wouldn't use one near hydrogen or acetylene. 
That being said, I recently proved that a hot engine is probably a much more likely source of ignition than any cell phone.
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2013, 08:53:04 AM »
The whole issue with phones is that they are not Explosion Proof. Its not likely to ignite gasoline vapors, though I wouldn't use one near hydrogen or acetylene. 
That being said, I recently proved that a hot engine is probably a much more likely source of ignition than any cell phone.


Given what I know about 'explosion proofing' I'd say that they effectively are though, even if nobody's sprung for the official testing.  The concern was about the type of ringer used in 1st generation portable phones inherited from desktop units that could, theoretically, spark.  Modern phones don't use that type of speaker system, removing the most likely spark source.

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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2013, 09:15:47 AM »
We are not allowed to take our cell phones into process areas at the chemical plant.  We are told the main sparking danger is if the phone is dropped and the battery pops out.  We actually do have an "explosion proof" phone for the operator to carry in the plant.  The main design difference seems to be a slightly tougher case and a screwed down battery case cover. 
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2013, 01:11:59 PM »
But but but, it says "Do not use cellphones" right on the pump(s)!

And you can't use an ipod on a plane during takeoff either. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2013, 02:52:28 PM »
And you can't use an ipod on a plane during takeoff either. Stupid is as stupid does.

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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2013, 02:57:03 PM »
You can now.

Did they lift that ban for all electronic devices?
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2013, 03:05:03 PM »
Did they lift that ban for all electronic devices?

Yes.  Each airline has to apply to use the new rules, and then change it's policy.  Happened last week.  At least one airline has already adopted the new rules.

Small PEDs can be held and used from gate to gate.  Large PEDs, like laptops, must be stored for takeoff and landing.  Cell phones can be on, but must have the phone transmitter off (airplane mode).  Wifi and Bluetooth transmitters can be left on..
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2013, 06:50:24 PM »
Well, this guy was such a turd if he DID blow up I'd just laugh and drive away.  >:D
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Re: Don't Smoke While Pumping Gas You FRAKKING MORON!!!
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2013, 10:07:20 PM »
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We actually do have an "explosion proof" phone for the operator to carry in the plant.  The main design difference seems to be a slightly tougher case and a screwed down battery case cover.
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