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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2012, 08:56:54 PM »
That's a damn shame and really stupid.  That said, I really, really prefer the metal safety cans....although I've never seen a fire baffle that they're talking about (or don't know what they are)  The cheap plastic ones I've bought at Home Depot over the years, always end up leaking.  Gas all over my hands, power tools and cars just isn't a good thing. 

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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2012, 01:21:45 AM »
Lee the fire baffle is a spark arrest or screen you can see it in those metal cans. The spring loaded handles snap the cap shut as soon as handle pressure is released, snuffing out a fire should there be one. We use those metal safety cans at work.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2012, 02:07:06 PM »
We had an idiot pour gas directly into a fire from a plastic can at Airventure. I could easily see the large fire from over a hundred yards away and ran to it. I have the end of the fire and it being put out by campers with fire extinguishers on video.

Luckily non of the bystanders were hurt. No on else was hurt either.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2012, 07:22:28 PM »
We had an idiot pour gas directly into a fire from a plastic can at Airventure. I could easily see the large fire from over a hundred yards away and ran to it. I have the end of the fire and it being put out by campers with fire extinguishers on video.

Luckily non of the bystanders were hurt. No on else was hurt either.

Too bad the idiot missed the Darwin Award  >:D
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2012, 07:53:35 PM »
We had an idiot pour gas directly into a fire from a plastic can at Airventure.


That's how my dear old Pa ended up with a shiny leg, and funny-looking skin on his torso (where the grafts came from). But then, he was a young idiot at the time.


Probably a metal can back then, I suppose.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2012, 08:40:34 PM »

That's how my dear old Pa ended up with a shiny leg, and funny-looking skin on his torso (where the grafts came from). But then, he was a young idiot at the time.


Probably a metal can back then, I suppose.

They hadn't invented plastic yet   :P


Back when I was contract cutting, I had a couple of round metal five gallon cans with the metal spouts and screw-on cap and vent that I got from the guy that I was working for, that I used for chain-saw mix.  These were the nice oil company cans that hydraulic oil and bulk motor used to come in. :)

I'm not sure what happened to them ... they probably finally rusted out  =|

Now all that stuff comes in ventless plastic buckets with the crappy pull-up spouts  =(   ;/
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #56 on: August 11, 2012, 04:52:34 PM »
Picked up a new Blitz made 5 gallon gas can at Wally world this afternoon, $12.98 +tax.
Probably won't be able to do that for too much longer, might pick up another one next payday just to have a couple extra on hand.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2013, 03:11:19 AM »
Prior when a few cases were registered, Blitz officials should have taken a serious note and should have made the improvements. Later the cases increased owing to negligence and this condition occurred.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2013, 05:05:47 AM »
I picked up a new 2 gallon gas can last weekend when I bought my weed whacker. It sucks! Twist the spout just right, wedge it against the edge os the tank, push against spring pressure to pour. Damn weedwhacker slides from the gascan spring, gas deflects off of the auto close flap and gets everywhere. It's stupid.

Thankfully I have army style 5gal cans. They still do what they are supposed to.

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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2013, 07:09:20 AM »
Prior when a few cases were registered, Blitz officials should have taken a serious note and should have made the improvements. Later the cases increased owing to negligence and this condition occurred.

How far should a company go to Darwin proof their product?
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2013, 09:52:02 AM »
I picked up a new 2 gallon gas can last weekend when I bought my weed whacker. It sucks! Twist the spout just right, wedge it against the edge os the tank, push against spring pressure to pour. Damn weedwhacker slides from the gascan spring, gas deflects off of the auto close flap and gets everywhere. It's stupid.

Thankfully I have army style 5gal cans. They still do what they are supposed to.

So the new cans are actually more dangerous and polluting than the old ones  ;/
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2013, 09:55:34 AM »
So the new cans are actually more dangerous and polluting than the old ones  ;/

You can still get the old metal cans

http://www.acehardware.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=1260316
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2013, 10:01:56 AM »
You can still get the old metal cans

http://www.acehardware.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=1260316

How illegal is it to fill those old olive-colored 5 gallon jerry cans (or is it 20 liter?) with gasoline?
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« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2013, 10:17:19 AM »
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2013, 11:09:11 AM »
For about $50. Ouch.

Gotta pay for all those lawyers and adverse judgments for folks who don't understand the concept of a closed container for storing fluids and the transfer of those fluids to another container.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2013, 11:11:36 AM »
How illegal is it to fill those old olive-colored 5 gallon jerry cans (or is it 20 liter?) with gasoline?

I don't believe it is illegal at all, you just can't buy new ones.

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« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2013, 11:28:09 AM »
So the new cans are actually more dangerous and polluting than the old ones  ;/

Generally, yes. But the lawyers can pass that onto the end user. The cans legally have to be lawyer proof (or lawyer resistant), not spill proof, in order to stay in business.

Folks? Just stop using the included spouts. Just get a cap for them, and use a funnel. Or an aftermarket spout.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2013, 11:45:51 AM »
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Folks? Just stop using the included spouts. Just get a cap for them, and use a funnel. Or an aftermarket spout.

You know what's going to happen, and its probably happened many times already- someone will slosh gas all over their leg while filling the lawnmower, then slosh it all over the muffler and *poof* a lawsuit anyway. ;/
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2013, 11:59:20 AM »
For about $50. Ouch.

Almost all metal cans are more than $40.
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« Reply #69 on: April 08, 2013, 12:01:47 PM »
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2013, 12:10:21 PM »
Dude you just posted a $250 gas can. And a $90 one.

That's *expletive deleted* ridiculous.

A better option is the $40 safety cans. Metal, durable, still somewhat annoying but not annoying as the EPA style plastic cans.







 

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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2013, 12:46:18 PM »
Dude you just posted a $250 gas can. And a $90 one.

That's *expletive deleted* ridiculous.

A better option is the $40 safety cans. Metal, durable, still somewhat annoying but not annoying as the EPA style plastic cans.







 


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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2013, 01:15:12 PM »
Stuff is priced what the market will pay.

No, it's priced at what the market will pay after government regs, idiots that can find a lawyer willing to keep their food down, and idiot juries that allow this sort of thing.
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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #73 on: April 08, 2013, 01:22:56 PM »
You can still buy them, they are even listed on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Jerry-Military-Gasoline-Hummer-Gasket/dp/B007ZICYXQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_4

http://www.amazon.com/Blitz-11010-Gallon-Steel-Gas/dp/B00004X14D

Those must be old stock because no new ones can be manufactured for sale in the US.  That also explains the ridiculous prices.

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Re: Tort bar shuts down gas can manufacturer
« Reply #74 on: April 08, 2013, 01:27:46 PM »
Makes those 7 plastic 20L diesel cans that got thrown away at my Reserve Center last year seem like gold.

(No Joke.  Cans had Diesel embossed on them, and were ordered for a MOGAS application.  The Safety Nazi said they couldn't be used and to throw them away, never even filled.)