"Let's hope the bomber was a white American"

[Gowen]

They need a thumbs up smiley!

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

MSNBC is desperately trying to blame the NRA for the Boston bombing:
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/17/how-the-gun-lobby-has-already-blocked-bostons-bombing-investigators/

[Perd Hapley]

Why are they calling Arfcom a "closed gun-forum"?

[Hawkmoon]

Explosives manufacturers are required to place tracing elements known as identification taggants only in plastic explosives but not in gunpowder, thanks to lobbying efforts by the NRA and large gun manufacturing groups.

Okay, but what about real explosives that fall somewhere between plastic and gunpowder -- such as, oh, dynamite, TNT, and nitroglycerin? Are there taggants in dynamite and TNT?

[brimic]

“That’s really a stretch,” said Morhard. Some taggants are themselves explosive and others are toxic, even carcinogenic, he added, but the risks are concentrated among employees storing and inserting the taggants into explosive products.

...or reloaders.
Exposing a million reloaders to carcinogens is worth it if it saves the life of one child.  

[grampster]

MSNBC is desperately trying to blame the NRA for the Boston bombing:
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/17/how-the-gun-lobby-has-already-blocked-bostons-bombing-investigators/

And you would exect anything else from the MSNBC?  If my name was John Baresford Tippton, I'd buy every reporter and producer of the Associated Left Wing Media a life membership in the NRA.

[Ben]

Why are they calling Arfcom a "closed gun-forum"?

Further, and thread veer coming up, the linked article quoted dfarriswheel, who I recall, if he was not a member here, was, or is, a member at GRM or TFL or THR. Kind of a reminder that it behooves us to think twice and post once on public forums. Not that he said anything wrong in the quote they used, but more to the point that they send reporters to forums to pull quotes from threads.

[dogmush]

While it's a "quote" in the strictest sense, I am interested in how this:

This rumor goes back the the 90's Assault Weapon Ban.

At the time, several of the usual totally dense anti-gun politicians and activists wanted to make ammo makers add "taggants" to gun powder. These taggants would allow the police to identify the maker and even the lot of the ammo by the taggant.

It was explained that taggants would alter the powder in unsafe ways and that no military or police organization would allow it in their ammo, and that the unknown and unsafe taggant effects would likely cause explosive accidents.
So, common sense prevailed and the adults dropped the idea.

From that came rumors that the government wanted to put additives in powder or primers that would give ammo an expiration date. Within a set number of years the ammo would simply deactivate itself and become useless.
This would prevent those NRA crazies from stockpiling ammo.
When it was explained that there is simply no possible way to do this, and again, no one military, police or civilian would allow such an unsafe additive, most people understood it was just a rumor.

Like most rumors, it refuses to die.

To sum up, there's no way to put a taggant in firearms ammo because of problems like the taggant and powder separating out and causing massive overloads.

There is no known reliable or safe method of causing ammunition to deactivate itself after a set time.

Which is a post about how 20 year old legislation was overcome because of safety concerns turned into this:

These taggants would allow the police to identify the maker and even the lot of the ammo by the taggant

Which is, according to MSNBC "Fear of government use of tracking technologies" being "echoed".

[Perd Hapley]

While it's a "quote" in the strictest sense, I am interested in how this:

Which is a post about how 20 year old legislation was overcome because of safety concerns turned into this:

Which is, according to MSNBC "Fear of government use of tracking technologies" being "echoed".

Easy one. The reporter just picked the one line in that whole post that seemed simple enough, even he could understand it. It just turned out that he was wrong.

[HankB]

Easy one. The reporter just picked the one line in that whole post that seemed simple enough, even he could understand it. It just turned out that he was wrong.

One of the best ways to lie is to tell only a portion - a select portion - of the truth.

[Jim147]

The suspects don't look like the don't tread on me type.

jim 

[Jocassee]

For those of you just waking up they caught the guys, they appear to be of somewhat eastern origin.

[Fly320s]

Chechen, possibly.

[lupinus]

Chechen, possibly.

News is reporting them as identified as Chechen brothers

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[AJ Dual]

Hopefully this'll be a career-ender for that asshat at Salon.

[T.O.M.]

Looks like Chechan origins, but been in US for several years.  The younger is 19, and finished school in Boston.  Don't know their immigration status.

Wonder what set these two off?

[kgbsquirrel]

MSNBC is desperately trying to blame the NRA for the Boston bombing:
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/17/how-the-gun-lobby-has-already-blocked-bostons-bombing-investigators/

CNN's Nat'l Sec Analyst Speculates 'Right-Wing Extremists' Could Be Behind Marathon Bombing


And now that it has come out that the bombers are Chechen Muslims the narrative has flipped:
CNN Reminds Viewers You Can't Blame Any Group For 'Extremists'

[Tallpine]

Everybody is always russian to judgement 

[Perd Hapley]

Hopefully this'll be a career-ender for that asshat at Salon.

I guess that depends on whether we invade Chechnya. Or ban black powder.

[Angel Eyes]

CNN Reminds Viewers You Can't Blame Any Group For 'Extremists'

. . . unless they're white conservatives.

[Boomhauer]

CNN Reminds Viewers You Can't Blame Any Group For 'Extremists'

And here I thought this was normal behavior for Chechen Muslims. You know, based on their years of religious warfare in Chechnya.

[Perd Hapley]

I just heard that one of the brothers became a citizen last year. I guess now we just need to decide whether he's "white" or not.

[AZRedhawk44]

Sure, eastern European = white.  He's not from that land of sandy, swarthy brown colored people just to the south a couple hundred miles.

[MillCreek]

And indeed, that very part of the world, the Caucasus, gave us the term 'Caucasian'.

[Hawkmoon]

Looks like Chechan origins, but been in US for several years.  The younger is 19, and finished school in Boston.  Don't know their immigration status.

Wonder what set these two off?

Disaffection.

The older brother arrived after the younger, and was not able to adapt or make friends in the U.S. Resentment built up, he started following Islamist web sites, and basically brainwashed himself. (Not speculation, this is from articles released today.) No doubt the older brother influenced the younger brother.

So, instead of the bomber being a white supremacist, they turned out to be Islamist terrorists. Gee, whoever might have predicted THAT?