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Title: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 19, 2007, 07:29:15 AM
On another thread, a self-described liberal noted that the Republican presidential candidates don't "believe in science, or other rights that need to be addressed."  What positions have the candidates taken on science, and the right to science?  Which candidate would be the best pick, from the standpoint of putting a stop to all this science that is going on? 
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: K Frame on November 19, 2007, 07:34:57 AM
Wrong forum, Fistful.

I'm moving it to Politics.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Sergeant Bob on November 19, 2007, 08:17:31 AM
I got the first vote in!!! grin
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Manedwolf on November 19, 2007, 08:35:41 AM
What's worse, someone holding up obviously religiousity as "science", which can be ignored if you so choose...

...or actually ruining hard science with junk science like" global warming" like the Democrats do?

Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Waitone on November 19, 2007, 09:37:10 AM
Huh?
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: yesitsloaded on November 19, 2007, 11:39:59 AM
I usually vote republican so I'm going to give out my little soapbox real quick and then be done. I am not against science, I am against spending my tax money on it. Being pro-life (in a roundabout libertarian way) I am against embryonic stem cell research. I have nothing against stem cell research or even placental stem cell research. I just hate watching my money thrown away as incentives spent on private science companies.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: wooderson on November 19, 2007, 12:12:38 PM
In that he believes that the Earth is 6000 years old, I'd say Huckabee wins by default.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 19, 2007, 12:36:32 PM
In that he believes that the Earth is 6000 years old, I'd say Huckabee wins by default.


But is he going to do anything to halt scientific investigation into the matter?  The people of America demand action!
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Manedwolf on November 19, 2007, 12:37:05 PM
In that he believes that the Earth is 6000 years old, I'd say Huckabee wins by default.

No, it doesn't mean anything.

I could care less what he believes. As long as he respects my right to believe what I believe, and understands that what he believes does not translate to policy, that's all that counts.

Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: beatnik on November 19, 2007, 01:05:22 PM
I love it.
The question isn't "which republican is going to stop science", the question is "which republican is going to try the hardest to stop tax dollars from being wasted on FEDERALLY FUNDED research into the promise of miracle cures where there is actually no scientific evidence to back said promises"?
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: jefnvk on November 19, 2007, 02:35:03 PM
Seems to me that Libretarians wouldn't be for taxing for science....
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Paddy on November 19, 2007, 02:38:36 PM
It's moot to me, as I won't be voting for any of them.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 19, 2007, 02:52:54 PM
Well, I was wrong on two counts.

A, I thought Mike would shut this one down, immediately. 

B, I didn't think anyone would actually take my question seriously.   smiley
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on November 19, 2007, 05:02:37 PM
Well, I was wrong on two counts.

A, I thought Mike would shut this one down, immediately. 

B, I didn't think anyone would actually take my question seriously.   smiley
If it's any consolation, I woulda shut your thread down, and I don't take any of your questions seriously.

Tongue
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Bigjake on November 19, 2007, 06:00:56 PM
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It's moot to me, as I won't be voting for any of them.

thought you were a paulian?
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on November 19, 2007, 07:41:12 PM
It's moot to me, as I won't be voting for any of them.
Hear hear!
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Paddy on November 20, 2007, 06:37:06 AM
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thought you were a paulian?

He'd be the only one I'd vote for, but he won't get the nomination.  And since I've re-registered as an Independent, I can't even vote for him in the primary.  Not that I think he's ideal by any means. It will take a lot more than a RP Presidency to reverse the damage done by the last 26 years of corporatocracy foisted on this country by both Republicans and Democrats.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: MechAg94 on November 20, 2007, 06:49:46 AM
A better poll would be to open it up with all the Dem candidates also.

Will Hilary's universal health care stifle medial advancement? 
Will Global Warming get taken seriously by a Dem?  To what effect? 
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Zeke on November 21, 2007, 10:49:52 AM
...Will Global Warming get taken seriously by a Dem?  To what effect? 

To what effect?  The reduction in CO2 emissions called for by Kyoto (which we would immediately sign) would move 70% of the US's remaining manufacturing to the exempt "developing nations" of Mexico, India, and China.

The management of global CO2 emissions and other chemicals, along with the non-territorial waters of the high seas would be ceded to the UN, necessitating a world-wide tax levy on all human inhabitants of earth pro-rated on energy use in order to pay administrative costs.  Guess who gets the largest tax bill.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: GigaBuist on November 21, 2007, 10:59:49 AM
To what effect?  The reduction in CO2 emissions called for by Kyoto (which we would immediately sign)...

1)  We've already signed it.
2)  The last time the Senate addressed this topic was 1997, when we had a Democrat in office, and shot the thing down 95-0.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: roo_ster on November 21, 2007, 06:35:34 PM
The candidate that buys into the most junk science and popular hysterias.

Every taxpayer dollar devoted to such tripe as global warming, is a taxpayer dollar that could have gone to do something useful, like cancer research or paving a 12-lane highway through Dallas, Texas.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Iain on November 22, 2007, 12:50:25 AM
Whichever one most accurately represents most of the sentiments expressed in this thread.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Sergeant Bob on November 22, 2007, 03:59:41 AM
Only two people voted for the American Anti-Science Party., and one of them isn't me.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: seeker_two on November 29, 2007, 06:40:29 AM
I voted Guiliani.....being as logical thinking is an important part of scientific research, the nomination of Guiliani as the "conservative" GOP candidate throws all logic out the window.....  rolleyes
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: MechAg94 on November 29, 2007, 06:53:01 AM
Whichever one most accurately represents most of the sentiments expressed in this thread.
Or better yet, the one that agrees most with Iain!  Cheesy Cheesy

Where does the constitution say we have a right to science!!  Cheesy
(just kidding......reserved to the states and the people)


I agree with one comment above.  Just because a President holds certain religious beliefs does not necessarily mean he would be hostile to scientific research.  I would be more concerned with candidates that foolishly buy into junk science and want to take all sorts of premature action.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Tecumseh on December 02, 2007, 11:37:55 AM
I would argue anyone that tries to stop stem cell research.  Not necessarily stop funding but try to ban it outright.  I would have voted for Thompson but any moron who believes the Earth is 6000 years old is a top contender.
Title: Re: What Republican candidate will do the most to stop science?
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 02, 2007, 12:49:04 PM
Nevermind, I'm tired of that particular never-ending non-discussion.