Musk and Twitter

[WLJ]

    I talked this morning about Elon Musk, his Paul Pelosi conspiracy theory, and how you lose a democracy in the age of the internet. pic.twitter.com/WLikKY32Ll

    — Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) October 31, 2022

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/10/31/nbc-news-ben-collins-barely-holds-it-together-explaining-how-elon-musk-will-destroy-our-democracy/

[Perd Hapley]

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/10/31/nbc-news-ben-collins-barely-holds-it-together-explaining-how-elon-musk-will-destroy-our-democracy/

He's saying that on an outlet that lies routinely.

[WLJ]

David Hogg thinks Twitter should be paying blue-checks like himself to tweet
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/31/david-hogg-thinks-twitter-should-be-paying-blue-checks-like-himself-to-tweet/

 

[K Frame]

I guess he's looking to make money any way he can since his pillow empire failed...

[sumpnz]

David Hogg is a clown.  However, there is a point in there.  Other social media, Facebook, YouTube as examples, pay content creators on the basis of audience engagement.  High value content creators being paid for doing so drives additional content creation, and that drives more value.  Not necessarily cultural value, or moral value, but it does drive more advertising value. 

Larry Correia monetizes his Facebook account (not sure how, and he was de-monetized until very recently).  YouTubers get paid per ad view.

It sounds absurd to us because we recognize him for the clown he is, but why shouldn’t David Hogg be paid by Twitter if he is driving audience engagement?  There’s plenty of people just as much (and more) of a clown as him that are monetized on various platforms already.

[Andiron]

David Hogg is a clown.  However, there is a point in there.  Other social media, Facebook, YouTube as examples, pay content creators on the basis of audience engagement.  High value content creators being paid for doing so drives additional content creation, and that drives more value.  Not necessarily cultural value, or moral value, but it does drive more advertising value. 

Larry Correia monetizes his Facebook account (not sure how, and he was de-monetized until very recently).  YouTubers get paid per ad view.

It sounds absurd to us because we recognize him for the clown he is, but why shouldn’t David Hogg be paid by Twitter if he is driving audience engagement?  There’s plenty of people just as much (and more) of a clown as him that are monetized on various platforms already.

You make a reasoned, compelling point.  But *expletive deleted*ck that little bastard.  Pay everyone EXCEPT him.  On general shithead principle.

[sumpnz]

You make a reasoned, compelling point.  But *expletive deleted*ck that little bastard.  Pay everyone EXCEPT him.  On general shithead principle.

I’m down with that.

[Tuco]

David Hogg is a clown

[Perd Hapley]

Copy-pasting something I left on a YouTube vidja.

When they spread lies that Musk’s Twitter is going to be a haven for racists, they should take the blame for all the racists showing up.  Cf. the (fabricated) rise in white supremacy under Trump. When the media told racists the President was on their side, they (not Trump) emboldened them.

[Angel Eyes]

David Hogg thinks Twitter should be paying blue-checks like himself to tweet
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/31/david-hogg-thinks-twitter-should-be-paying-blue-checks-like-himself-to-tweet/

[Ben]

David Hogg might be getting even more pissed. Not only will Elon not be paying him, he might start charging him:

Musk is also looking into revamping Twitter's verification process. Users wishing to keep their verification badge may soon be required to subscribe to Twitter Blue. The cost of Twitter Blue is also reportedly rising from $4.99 per month to $19.99 per month.

[zxcvbob]

David Hogg might be getting even more pissed. Not only will Elon not be paying him, he might start charging him:

IMHO it should go both ways.  Users should pay for the verification and the silly checkmark; Twitter should then pay them for content. (not sure what the basis for payment would be, probably however YT does it would be close)

I think I have a twitter account; when I look at a twitter link it knows who I am.  I have never posted anything there, not even once.

[Ben]

Elon Musk bought Twitter because he takes Viagra. 

Kinda funny how the "don't judge people's sexuality" left doesn't mind making fun of what they would otherwise call a disability that must be recognized, as long as the disability is connected to an enemy (and probably not even true, or if it is, okay, but viagra wasn't approved until well after Musk turned 18).

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/01/not-sure-why-adam-parkhomenko-is-so-fixated-on-elon-musks-junk-but-hey-were-not-judging/

[WLJ]

I guess gas cars are okay again.

    It took only 4 days, but Twitter has turned into a cesspool of lies, hate, racism, antisemitism, & right-wing extremism. It happened because of @elonmusk, which means that it is financed by Tesla. If you have had it with Elon, but you still drive a Tesla, time to rethink that.

    — Fred Guttenberg (@fred_guttenberg) October 31, 2022

He hasn't even changed anything yet other than firing some deadwood and yet suddenly there's suppose to be all this hate speech on Twitter.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/01/fred-guttenberg-says-twitters-now-a-right-wing-cesspool-and-its-time-to-rethink-your-tesla/

[Ben]

I guess gas cars are okay again.

He hasn't even changed anything yet other than firing some deadwood and yet suddenly there's all this hate speech on Twitter.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/01/fred-guttenberg-says-twitters-now-a-right-wing-cesspool-and-its-time-to-rethink-your-tesla/

The things to complain about are that left wing hate is still prevalent. Apparently if you do a search for a "Kemp" account, it leads to results on Stacy Abrams as Kemp is stealth banned.

I'm not blaming Musk. You can't fix this *expletive deleted*it in a day or a week or a month. It will likely take time to find all the stealth bans and stuff, whether automated or via dumbass "site integrity" employees doing it manually. He still has a lot of people to fire.

[WLJ]

The things to complain about are that left wing hate is still prevalent. Apparently if you do a search for a "Kemp" account, it leads to results on Stacy Abrams as Kemp is stealth banned.

I'm not blaming Musk. You can't fix this *expletive deleted*it in a day or a week or a month. It will likely take time to find all the stealth bans and stuff, whether automated or via dumbass "site integrity" employees doing it manually. He still has a lot of people to fire.

It could take months to unclog and clear out 90% of the crap. The remaining 10% may never happen since it's probably like playing Whack A-Mole.

[Jim147]

I guess gas cars are okay again.

He hasn't even changed anything yet other than firing some deadwood and yet suddenly there's suppose to be all this hate speech on Twitter.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/01/fred-guttenberg-says-twitters-now-a-right-wing-cesspool-and-its-time-to-rethink-your-tesla/

Something changed. My feed used to be full of Democratic ads. Now it's full of real people.

[WLJ]

Something changed. My feed used to be full of Democratic ads. Now it's full of real people.

No wonder the dems are scared.

[Hawkmoon]

According to MSN's Business Insider, Twits have been told they have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. That's an 84 hour week.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/twitter-staff-have-been-told-to-work-84-hour-weeks-and-managers-slept-at-the-office-over-the-weekend-as-they-scramble-to-meet-elon-musk-s-tight-deadlines-reports-say/ar-AA13BP61?cvid=bfa6ce4d7da942e6a8da114f47a915c0

CNBC reported that staff haven't been told whether they'll get overtime pay, time off in lieu, or job security for working on the assignments.

They'd better be getting paid overtime -- at least most of them. Unless they genuinely have managerial responsibility and authority, they are not salaried (i.e. "exempt') employees, and I'm pretty certain the law requires that they get paid time-and-a-half beyond 40 hours per week.

[zxcvbob]

According to MSN's Business Insider, Twits have been told they have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. That's an 84 hour week.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/twitter-staff-have-been-told-to-work-84-hour-weeks-and-managers-slept-at-the-office-over-the-weekend-as-they-scramble-to-meet-elon-musk-s-tight-deadlines-reports-say/ar-AA13BP61?cvid=bfa6ce4d7da942e6a8da114f47a915c0

They'd better be getting paid overtime -- at least most of them. Unless they genuinely have managerial responsibility and authority, they are not salaried (i.e. "exempt') employees, and I'm pretty certain the law requires that they get paid time-and-a-half beyond 40 hours per week.

12-hour days *and* work weekends?  Sounds like bullshit to me.  And by bullshit, I mean I don't believe the article but there probably is a little truth in it.  (and they'll probably claim that everyone is on salary so no OT pay at all, not even straight time)  Long shifts or weekends, for a short duration like a week or two?  Yeah, maybe.  But there better be some kind of compensation or the workers will burn the place down and rightly so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzqZm357pXk
[edited for clarity]

[RocketMan]

According to MSN's Business Insider, Twits have been told they have to work 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week. That's an 84 hour week.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/twitter-staff-have-been-told-to-work-84-hour-weeks-and-managers-slept-at-the-office-over-the-weekend-as-they-scramble-to-meet-elon-musk-s-tight-deadlines-reports-say/ar-AA13BP61?cvid=bfa6ce4d7da942e6a8da114f47a915c0

They'd better be getting paid overtime -- at least most of them. Unless they genuinely have managerial responsibility and authority, they are not salaried (i.e. "exempt') employees, and I'm pretty certain the law requires that they get paid time-and-a-half beyond 40 hours per week.

Management doesn't necessarily mean people management.  Management of anything would suffice.

[kgbsquirrel]

 

[Boomhauer]

I smell bullshit created by people mad they have to work in the first place

[Ben]

I smell bullshit created by people mad they have to work in the first place

Me too.

[kgbsquirrel]

Alternatively this could actually be happening but with the following context:

These folks are part of the progressive agenda but for whatever reason he can't fire them for cause or terminate at will, so he needs to make them want to leave.  Enter context part two, they are salary and are obligated to work whatever is demanded of them (demand used to be very low so they didn't worry about this).  Now the demand is 12/7 until they choose to GTFO.

I still feel fine.  Also Afghanistan was 16-18 hour days for 6 months for me.  So I personally know this demand is doable.  If true it should prove to be a very good mass spectrometer of employee desire to turn Twitter around and make it genuinely free speech.  People who don't want free speech will be highly unwilling to sacrifice so much of their time to the task.