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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: makattak on November 12, 2020, 07:54:46 AM
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I have been watching the plummeting of Fox News and all of the information clicked for me.
Stuff like this: Fox News Going Liberal? (http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=63271.0) and this; Fox News Cuts Away from White House Press Conference (https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/11/09/fox-news-neil-cavuto-cuts-away-from-kayleigh-mcenany-presser-over-explosive-charge-against-dems-trump-legal-adviser-responds/) and this: More Fox Woes (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/391225.php)
and I can keep linking, as there's lots more.
But I had a revelation: Liberals wanted to take over Fox News (they had it easy as the issue of the owner) because they thought Fox News gives conservatives their marching orders.
They thought if they just take over this outlet, the conservatives would fall in line. It honestly never occurred to them that Fox News succeeds ONLY in as much as they reflect their audience. They don't drive it. They are honestly surprised that conservatives are cutting them off so quickly.
It's the same with Rush Limbaugh. They think he's successful because he's brainwashed millions of listeners, when his success is a result of giving them a VOICE.
And, as with Trump, if you cut off the outlets for conservatives to have a voice (the goal of the progressive movement), you don't end the sentiments. You just bottle them up, like steam. And the results will be similar to bottling up pressure.
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I think it is true that the popularity of news organizations is in part due to how their presentation of the news resonates with their viewership. That said, what news is presented and how it is presented still influences the people who consume it. Especially once viewers start to trust particular personalities.
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It is what they do and think. Leftists have no understanding of anyone but themselves (if that).
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I think it is true that the popularity of news organizations is in part due to how their presentation of the news resonates with their viewership. That said, what news is presented and how it is presented still influences the people who consume it. Especially once viewers start to trust particular personalities.
But the cult of personality only goes so far. And leftists these days don't know what subtlety is.
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I think it is true that the popularity of news organizations is in part due to how their presentation of the news resonates with their viewership. That said, what news is presented and how it is presented still influences the people who consume it. Especially once viewers start to trust particular personalities.
True, and there are certainly sheep on the right just like on the left. I always trusted Neil Cavuto, who, though he was a semi-never Trumper, always seemed to provide rational analyses. If I didn't agree with them, they certainly fell into "food for thought" territory.
He may still have reasonable analyses, but now doing stuff like cutting away from Kayleigh makes him suspect to me, which is why I am gradually moving away from Fox. Tell me you're opinion that's different than mine Neil, but don't hide info or attempt to tell me HOW to think. I'm at a point where I'm checking Fox News the same as I occasionally pop into CNN, etc. - just to get the lay of their land, but not trusting what they say and requiring verification from elsewhere.
As I have been spending more and more time at the Epoch Times, their very busy comment sections have been an interesting read. TONS of people have made comments that they gave up on Fox and the Epoch Times was one of the areas they landed. The other venues most mentioned in the comments there are OANN and Newsmax. The latter was interesting to me, as I generally haven't gone there other than through links in articles elsewhere, and have never thought of them as "big" like a cable news network. I might have to explore there a bit.
Edit: I'm still going to Fox Business regularly as they seem to be staying out of the Fox News spiral. Don't know how long that will last.
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So I've just spent a little time perusing the Newsmax website. It seems well laid out and so far I'm not seeing any sensational stories. I see that Ad Blocker Pro goes crazy blocking ads on it, but my end result is also a nice, clean page that keeps me from epileptic seizures.
I was unaware they have a cable news channel. I've been listening to around 30 minutes of live broadcast on their website, and it also sounds like reasonable voices. I saw they are available on Roku for free so am signing up to view them a bit more and see what I think.
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Fox News was a staple site for me pre-election. I've pretty much dropped it at this point. I continue to cruise through Disrn https://disrn.com/ (https://disrn.com/) and Issues & Insights https://issuesinsights.com/ (https://issuesinsights.com/) every morning as I drink my coffee. Both are a mix of news and opinion with very little tinfoil hattery.
I&I is closer to the middle of the road. Each has a premium version in addition to the basic free site.
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It's not just lefties who believe that. A non-lefty co-worker I talk with every day still believes that about me, although I've told him a number of times that I just don't have access to any cable news programming.