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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2015, 03:29:17 PM »
My only complaints about Walker are:
- He wasn't gung -ho enough on Concealed carry. We could have had constitutional carry, but he settled for 'shall-issue', though a really good 'shall-issue' at that.
- He won't commit to 'right to work.' He did a fine job of taking down the public sector union cabal, but won't touch closed shop unions, at least not yet, though there is building pressure for him to do so.

Minor nit-picky complaints, no deal killers for me.

Interesting article on just that last item from NRO today:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/396302/scott-walker-right-again-mario-loyola
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2015, 03:42:13 PM »
Walker, at least so far, is an acceptable choice to me.

Cruz is as well. I like his positions, but his executive experience is not where I would like it.

Jindal is my preference among the current hopefuls. I can only hope competence and honesty are desired traits in the 2016 election, but I doubt they will be.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2015, 08:38:54 PM »
Walker, at least so far, is an acceptable choice to me.

Cruz is as well. I like his positions, but his executive experience is not where I would like it.

Jindal is my preference among the current hopefuls. I can only hope competence and honesty are desired traits in the 2016 election, but I doubt they will be.

Jindal looks like a used car salesman and talks like a whiny castrati. He could be the reincarnation of Reagan and he'd never get elected President.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2015, 09:33:18 PM »
I don't have a single problem with Ted Cruz but I'm afraid he is an unelectable lightning rod for controversy.

EDIT: plus I don't think he's making any noises about running. Same with Gowdy, though I don't think he has any business running for president anyway.

You obviously don't remember Reagan then.   As far as the press was concerned he was the second coming of Nixon, only worse.  The love they currently show for Obama is almost the polar opposite of the hate they had for Reagan.  Only they hated Reagan much, much, much more then they love Obama.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2015, 09:42:19 PM »
You obviously don't remember Reagan then.   As far as the press was concerned he was the second coming of Nixon, only worse.  The love they currently show for Obama is almost the polar opposite of the hate they had for Reagan.  Only they hated Reagan much, much, much more then they love Obama.

I was a young-un when Reagan was elected and that is the vibe I got. 
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2015, 10:13:05 PM »
You obviously don't remember Reagan then.   As far as the press was concerned he was the second coming of Nixon, only worse.  The love they currently show for Obama is almost the polar opposite of the hate they had for Reagan.  Only they hated Reagan much, much, much more then they love Obama.

Does Cruz have the same oratorical skill and ability to appeal to the vast unwashed that Reagan did?
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2015, 12:28:15 PM »
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2015, 12:35:53 PM »
I'm not buying that for Rand, especially as he hasn't exactly made a secret of his position on Immigration.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2015, 12:52:26 PM »
What is their definition of conservative and liberal?

It would be a more useful chart if it broke it down into quadrants. Left and right, social and economic .

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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2015, 01:28:24 PM »


It would be a more useful chart if it broke it down into quadrants. Left and right, social and economic .



That is a chart I could use.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2015, 01:53:56 PM »
What is their definition of conservative and liberal?

It would be a more useful chart if it broke it down into quadrants. Left and right, social and economic .


I'd be more interested in an axis with libertarian vs statist.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2015, 01:55:31 PM »
I'd be more interested in an axis with libertarian vs statist.


I don't disagree but then you would alienate potential democrat voters who really want a fiscal conservative that is socially moderate to liberal. (I know that sort of describes a libertarian)
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2015, 07:04:49 PM »
I don't disagree but then you would alienate potential democrat voters who really want a fiscal conservative that is socially moderate to liberal. (I know that sort of describes a libertarian)

Well, as long as you define 'fiscal conservative' as 'reasonably free market' and 'socially liberal' as 'don't mess with people's personal lives unless you have to'.

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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2015, 07:20:28 PM »
Well, as long as you define 'fiscal conservative' as 'reasonably free market' and 'socially liberal' as 'don't mess with people's personal lives unless you have to'.
Bingo!

Fiscally conservative and socially liberal (in the modern definition of liberal) are mutually exclusive.

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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2015, 07:59:20 PM »
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2015, 01:29:51 PM »
Well, as long as you define 'fiscal conservative' as 'reasonably free market' and 'socially liberal' as 'don't mess with people's personal lives unless you have to'.

Please, define "have to".
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2015, 07:39:10 PM »
How about some new faces for both parties??

Like Ron Rand Paul?
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2015, 07:43:39 PM »
Bingo!

Fiscally conservative and socially liberal (in the modern definition of liberal) are mutually exclusive.

So are "socially liberal" and "don't mess with people's personal lives."
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2015, 05:48:25 AM »
Like Ron Rand Paul?

Rand Paul is performing worse electorally right now than Ron Paul did at this stage of the 2012 election.

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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2015, 08:37:59 AM »
Bingo!

Fiscally conservative and socially liberal (in the modern definition of liberal) are mutually exclusive.



You could be fine with social liberal ideas, but refuse to provide any funding.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2015, 06:26:56 PM »
You could be fine with social liberal ideas, but refuse to provide any funding.

The definition of "socially liberal ideas" involves use of .gov force and funds.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2015, 10:59:38 PM »
The definition of "socially liberal ideas" involves use of .gov force and funds.

Ayup. 

Even those "socially liberal ideas" that are not big spendy programs cost money for when folk don't get with the new paradigm and gov't agents need to shoot them in the face. 
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2015, 12:09:29 PM »
Please, define "have to".

When their personal lives are intruding into other's in a negative fashion, and I'm not talking about their feelings.

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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2015, 08:17:37 AM »
When their personal lives are intruding into other's in a negative fashion, and I'm not talking about their feelings.

Thanks.  Not the way it originally came across to me.  I'm with you now.
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Re: Third try the charm for Governor Romney?
« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2015, 11:51:47 AM »
Romney calls for "global solutions" to "climate change." Severely conservative you guys.

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