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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 01:32:11 PM »
Quote from: Ron on April 27, 2016, 11:10:30 AM
Once we see who Trump surrounds himself with we will see if he is really a nationalist vs your typical internationalist that we've been electing since GHB.

The only real positive I see in Trump is his nationalism.

I think it was AJ who speculated Trump's rhetoric was essentially an NYC Dem's stereotype of what flyover country Republicans want to hear.  He has no govt experience, which is not inheriently a bad thing. But it's a substantial gamble to see if he rides his current rhetoric if he gets elected.

He personally doesn't show much backing for his nationalism in his business decisions. His clothing line is made in China/Vietnam. Like certain companies, he abuses H1B visas like a red headed step child to bring in cheap foreign labor. Not saying that's bad either, but it's certainly not proof that he's inclined to follow his current rhetoric. 
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 02:07:03 PM »
I will admit that the Cruz/Kaisch deal has soured me on Cruz.  I expected him to stand for his principles, not sell out to the GOPe.   =|


If Trump gets the nomination, I would like it if he named either Cruz or Abbott to the USSC, can some put that bug in the Trump's ear.


I too will be anxious to here who the running mates are, along with the advisers and potential cabinet posts.   Mattis as SecDef or SecState.  Bolton as SecState.  Ron Paul at Treasury.  I know Trump will put Christie as either VP or AttyGen.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 02:12:59 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on April 27, 2016, 02:07:03 PM

I too will be anxious to here who the running mates are, along with the advisers and potential cabinet posts.   Mattis as SecDef or SecState.  Bolton as SecState.  Ron Paul at Treasury.  I know Trump will put Christie as either VP or AttyGen chief food taster.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2016, 02:18:57 PM »
News coming down is Cruz is announcing Fiorina as his running mate should he get the nomination.


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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2016, 02:25:04 PM »
Quote from: lupinus on April 27, 2016, 02:18:57 PM
News coming down is Cruz is announcing Fiorina as his running mate should he get the nomination.


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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2016, 02:36:19 PM »
Quote from: lupinus on April 27, 2016, 02:18:57 PM
News coming down is Cruz is announcing Fiorina as his running mate should he get the nomination.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/27/sources-cruz-to-announce-fiorina-as-choice-for-running-mate.html

Wondering if he had announced it a couple of months earlier if it would have swayed enough voters that he would have locked the nomination.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2016, 02:58:46 PM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on April 27, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/27/sources-cruz-to-announce-fiorina-as-choice-for-running-mate.html

Wondering if he had announced it a couple of months earlier if it would have swayed enough voters that he would have locked the nomination.

I was thinking the same, or at least that it would have gotten him a few more wins. I know a lot of guys here don't like her, but I think she's a good pick specifically for Cruz to offset and temper some of the negatives that the "middle of the road" rights have with him. She's kind of moderation for him without being establishment, while still being fiery over topics like abortion.

I'm thinking too little, too late now though.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2016, 04:45:01 PM »
Carly is unacceptable to me.

I'll not be voting for Cruz if he miraculously wins the nomination.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2016, 05:19:51 PM »
Quote from: Ron on April 27, 2016, 04:45:01 PM
Carly is unacceptable to me.

I'll not be voting for Cruz if he miraculously wins the nomination.
Is that a change from a week ago?
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2016, 05:29:30 PM »
Quote from: Ron on April 27, 2016, 04:45:01 PM
Carly is unacceptable to me.


Why?
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2016, 05:35:57 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on April 27, 2016, 05:19:51 PM
Is that a change from a week ago?

I've been torn on voting for him, or nobody, or writing in someone.

Neocon foreign policy is really the deal breaker.

It's just so hard to not vote for anyone that's running against Hillary. 

Felt the same way about Obama. 
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2016, 05:53:25 PM »
Does it really make sense to let a veep candidate influence one's vote in any way?
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2016, 05:53:41 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on April 27, 2016, 05:29:30 PM
Why?

Her foreign policy is very neocon, she worked on the McCain campaign (economic advisor) and she is weak on immigration.

Also, I would like the VP to someone I would be OK with as president.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2016, 05:54:39 PM »
Quote from: roo_ster on April 27, 2016, 11:52:21 AM
When all the other candidates are overt America-haters or are just waiting to sell America out to their donors, the one guy who merely doesn't hate America shines like a diamond in a goat's ass.

Of course, to grasp that diamond requires putting your hand up a goat's ass...

If you wear a long glove it really isn't all that bad...
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2016, 06:30:20 PM »
Trump/Webb

Just to see Charbys head explode  :laugh:
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2016, 06:32:41 PM »
Quote from: fistful on April 27, 2016, 05:53:25 PM
Does it really make sense to let a veep candidate influence one's vote in any way?

Well, to the point Ron mentioned, that they could in fact become president.

Also I do think it influences votes in other ways. It potentially can say something about the candidate that they don't project in speeches, etc. For instance, I will change my view on Trump again (more to the negative) if he officially announce Christie as his VP choice. It says something to me about where Trump stands if he chooses the most left leaning, "respect LE authoritay, safety over freedom" guy of all the R contenders for president this round.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2016, 06:37:12 PM »
Quote from: Ron  on April 27, 2016, 06:30:20 PM
Trump/Webb

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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2016, 06:39:29 PM »
Quote from: Ben on April 27, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
Well, to the point Ron mentioned, that they could in fact become president.

Also I do think it influences votes in other ways. It potentially can say something about the candidate that they don't project in speeches, etc. For instance, I will change my view on Trump again (more to the negative) if he officially announce Christie as his VP choice. It says something to me about where Trump stands if he chooses the most left leaning, "respect LE authoritay, safety over freedom" guy of all the R contenders for president this round.
I guess you mean it confirms a lot of the Trump conspiracies.   

For Cruz at this time, I think the decision is solely what can get him enough delegates to deny a majority to Trump.   VP choices are largely used for that these days.  When I turn on the news, all I see is the news playing clips of Trump talking trash about Cruz.  This gets him some temporary coverage of his own.  Hard to say if it will help or hurt.  
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2016, 06:41:17 PM »
I was never a big Fiorina fan, but I didn't think she had a great deal of support so I am curious what the Cruz campaign sees in this that helps them. 
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2016, 06:51:57 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on April 27, 2016, 06:41:17 PM
I was never a big Fiorina fan, but I didn't think she had a great deal of support so I am curious what the Cruz campaign sees in this that helps them. 

He is gunning for the "You Go Girl!!" vote.

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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2016, 06:52:57 PM »
Quote from: Ron on April 27, 2016, 06:51:57 PM
He is gunning for the "You Go Girl!!" vote.


As I just heard, he was also looking to shut down the "Trump just won five states" stories which it may have successfully done. 
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2016, 06:53:06 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on April 27, 2016, 06:41:17 PM
I was never a big Fiorina fan, but I didn't think she had a great deal of support so I am curious what the Cruz campaign sees in this that helps them. 

Quote from: Ron on April 27, 2016, 06:51:57 PM
He is gunning for the "You Go Girl!!" vote.



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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2016, 07:11:35 PM »
But she was a business person.  She is not a politician.  That is what Trump supporters have been saying for months about him.   =D     I also heard she ran in California and might help Cruz there.  Who knows.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2016, 07:23:00 PM »
After trumps foreign policy speech john podhoretz wrote, disdainfully, that it could have been a rand paul foreign policy speech.

Are the neocon sorts trying to push me towards trump?  The policy i liked least from cruz was his neocon "bomb the middle east in perpetuity" foreign policy.
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Re: Tag Teaming Trump
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2016, 07:42:21 PM »
Quote from: Ron on April 27, 2016, 06:51:57 PM
He is gunning for the "You Go Girl!!" vote.


Sort of, but she's more a shield against waronwomenz charges.
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