Author Topic: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?  (Read 8720 times)

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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2010, 11:38:53 AM »
I've seen some ignorance on both sides of this issue, but it gets tiresome when global warming/climate change advocates go on about it as if it invalidates the entire debate.  Trying to claim that there are people that deny "climate change" is ridiculous as well. Hell, my grandfather once told me he thought weather trends moved in at least 20 year cycles, and that was just his observations after living more than 60 years.  Everyone knows climates shift around.   

The simple fact is that the actual evidence of man-made global warming is weak or non-existent and all the predictions that have been made by scientists and supporters alike have not happened so far.  IMO, it has gotten to the point that most of the researchers are just trying to keep the grant money rolling in and don't care a bit about whether or not it is a real issue. 
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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2010, 11:50:24 AM »
keep the grant money rolling in
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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2010, 12:01:53 PM »
Mastodons are vegetarians.

The Kentucky Coffee Tree is guessed to be one of their favorite foods.

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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2010, 12:18:48 PM »
 
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Average annual global temperatures have risen a degree or two since the Little Ice Age ended some 150 years ago

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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2010, 03:54:33 PM »
Mastodons are vegetarians.

They won't be when there's large piles of Soylent Green all over the ice.....
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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2010, 04:00:51 PM »
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"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.

Ummm, Ian, you may want to look out your window now. =D

This child of the '70s remembers the winters then, running from the short faced bears, riding the wooly rhinos to school and, of course, Mastadon sandwhiches.  Mmmm, Ice Ages.
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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2010, 04:16:35 PM »
yea  horses hadn't evolved yet?

yeah hard to ride those knee high things
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Re: A winter like last year? Two years like the 70s?
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2010, 10:04:54 AM »
http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=4192
This was posted in the thread about college degrees.  

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   For 20 years, evidence about global warming has been directly and explicitly linked to a set of policy responses demanding international governance regimes, large-scale social engineering, and the redistribution of wealth. These are the sort of things that most Democrats welcome, and most Republicans hate. No wonder the Republicans are suspicious of the science.
In the 80's my elementary school weekly readers were full of "save the whales", "save the rain forest", and "global warming".  The lefties have been pushing global warming along with other things for many many years.  They always made very wild claims that often turned out to be completely untrue (if the rain forest destruction rate was what they said it was, it would be gone now).  The issues are not always things to be dismissed out of hand.  I like whales and don't have an issue with banning whale hunting.  However, global warming has been a leftist issue tied to politics for a long, long time pretty much since the idea was invented.  For AGW supporters to claim they are just defending "science" now is just plain dishonest.  IMO, ANY scientific issue that is injected with politics is something to be highly skeptical about.  
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