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Title: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 07, 2010, 11:34:41 PM
local dem running for congress
http://www.krystalballforcongress.com/


non official photos
http://gawker.com/5657431/9-pictures-of-a-politician-sucking-a-dildo-attached-to-her-husbands-nose-+-gallery/


that sloshing sound is a campaign going around the bowl
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 07, 2010, 11:44:03 PM
Well, her name is Krystal Ball, so no one was going to take her seriously, any way.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 07, 2010, 11:48:22 PM
she did
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 08, 2010, 12:14:35 AM
she did

 :laugh:
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 08, 2010, 02:08:11 AM
By all means, feel free to re-elect the incumbent.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 08, 2010, 04:52:05 AM
Probably be more entertaining than that idiot Franken.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: seeker_two on October 08, 2010, 05:47:17 AM
...and I'm sure no one here has any embarrassing pics of themselves at adult-only parties....  ;/



(Where is JamisJockey when you need him?....)
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 08, 2010, 06:04:15 AM
i am too old  no cams back in the day!  thank god!
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 08, 2010, 06:20:23 AM
at least she looks good in the pics
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: mtnbkr on October 08, 2010, 07:00:45 AM
...and I'm sure no one here has any embarrassing pics of themselves at adult-only parties....  ;/

Exactly.  I have a few female friends who have done similarly embarrassing, yet non immoral or illegal acts, yet would trust completely in a position of power and responsibility.

BTW, I had a hard time determining if she was a Republican or Democrat (FB page lists her as Democrat).  Her "issues" page is just about spot on with my beliefs (her 2nd Amendment statement: I am an NRA member and pledge to be a fierce advocate of an individual's right to bear arms.).

Based on what I see on her campaign page, I'd vote for her.

Chris
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: lee n. field on October 08, 2010, 08:53:39 AM
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BTW, I had a hard time determining if she was a Republican or Democrat

Which, this time around, means she's probably a D.

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(FB page lists her as Democrat).  Her "issues" page is just about spot on with my beliefs (her 2nd Amendment statement: I am an NRA member and pledge to be a fierce advocate of an individual's right to bear arms.).

The mayor in our little city is running to unseat our US Rep (who I thoroughly approve of).  His position on the 2nd is nothing but weasel words, and his website nowhere mentions his party affiliation.  Thoroughly untrustworthy, IMHO.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 08, 2010, 09:14:05 AM
Exactly.  I have a few female friends who have done similarly embarrassing, yet non immoral or illegal acts, yet would trust completely in a position of power and responsibility.

BTW, I had a hard time determining if she was a Republican or Democrat (FB page lists her as Democrat).  Her "issues" page is just about spot on with my beliefs (her 2nd Amendment statement: I am an NRA member and pledge to be a fierce advocate of an individual's right to bear arms.).

Based on what I see on her campaign page, I'd vote for her.

Chris

we have had a rash of pols like her  they claim to be independent or centrist dems to get elected  and then its only the nva refugees that make that happen  then they vote the straight dem party line.  we've been culling em after one term and they are whining.  shes got the backing from the culls and thats gonna cost her in this hood  we got rid of em for a reason.

this guy
http://www.robwittmanforcongress.com/

should whup her
seen as being more biz friendly
and her gun position is viewed by many here as a front
plus shes a total unknown politically

heres an odd factoid  the lady who wittman took over from when she died?  she defeated the former mayor of fredericksburg.  who was a dem i woulda voted for  black baptist preacher from texas  served 20 years as mayor  unopposed at least twice and was so strong no one was gonna run against him when he surprised everyone and ran for congress instead  and lost. his being elected in 76 was a big deal down here  or anywhere in va for that matter

http://www.shiloholdsite.org/history_davies_early.htm

was then and still is quite the remarkable man   a true leader
we could use a couple more here and there
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Jamisjockey on October 08, 2010, 06:03:48 PM
She's a cutie....but like CSAD says, most of the Dems that have been elected were elected as centrists and "blue dogs" and yet the vote all the big ticket items right down the party line.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Jamisjockey on October 08, 2010, 06:09:08 PM
Also note on her issues page, she's not mentioning cap and tax, health care, nor the environment.

From her Economy page
Provide a 50% cut in pay roll taxes for the first two years a small business starts up to make sure we have a system that encourages investment in our local economy.

So, two years after you start a business, your payroll taxes will jump 50%. What if your business hasn't grown?  yeah, brilliant. 


cutting middle class taxes
The middle class tax cuts are set to expire this year, raising taxes on our families. In these tough economic times we must keep the tax burden off of middle class families, so they can continue to feed their children and pay their mortgages. I will fight to keep these tax cuts for middle class families.

What she's not saying is that she plans on shifting the burden to people who aren't "middle class".  You know, the people who actually run businesses and hire the middle class....  :facepalm:
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: mtnbkr on October 08, 2010, 06:15:46 PM
Also note on her issues page, she's not mentioning cap and tax, health care, nor the environment.

From her Economy page
Provide a 50% cut in pay roll taxes for the first two years a small business starts up to make sure we have a system that encourages investment in our local economy.

So, two years after you start a business, your payroll taxes will jump 50%. What if your business hasn't grown?  yeah, brilliant. 

You would prefer no cut at all?  A 50% cut for two years is better than the current scenario, right?

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cutting middle class taxes
The middle class tax cuts are set to expire this year, raising taxes on our families. In these tough economic times we must keep the tax burden off of middle class families, so they can continue to feed their children and pay their mortgages. I will fight to keep these tax cuts for middle class families.

What she's not saying is that she plans on shifting the burden to people who aren't "middle class".  You know, the people who actually run businesses and hire the middle class....  :facepalm:

You're right, she's not saying that.

Chris
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Jamisjockey on October 08, 2010, 06:19:14 PM
You would prefer no cut at all?  A 50% cut for two years is better than the current scenario, right?

You're right, she's not saying that.

Chris

1-Its a temporay fix.  Get you started with a business and paying payroll, but then a 50% jump in payroll taxes?  Only encourages people to start businesses, but not necessarily to keep employees after the payroll taxes go back up.

2-Its an implication. 
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: mtnbkr on October 08, 2010, 07:17:44 PM
1-Its a temporay fix.  Get you started with a business and paying payroll, but then a 50% jump in payroll taxes?  Only encourages people to start businesses, but not necessarily to keep employees after the payroll taxes go back up.

Assuming permanent cuts aren't an option, are you saying you'd rather not have a temporary cut that would help someone getting started? You plan your business around the full tax burden, then use the 2yr cut to offset the expense of getting a business started.  I don't see the downside of that (assuming once again there is no alternative for a permanent cut).

Chris
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: HeroHog on October 08, 2010, 08:54:10 PM
In general when you open a small business you had better have enough capital to survive at least 3 to 5 years with NO profit. It normally takes about that long to get your name out there and to be established in the community statistically speaking.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 08, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
Here is the incumbent's campaign web page.

http://www.robwittmanforcongress.com/on-the-issues.htm
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 08, 2010, 10:44:58 PM
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In general when you open a small business you had better have enough capital to survive at least 3 to 5 years with NO profit. It normally takes about that long to get your name out there and to be established in the community statistically speaking.

IIRC, the advice is to have the better part of six months to a year on hand. If I'd needed a 3-5 year cushion in 1987 when I opened my photo studio, that would have been about half a million dollars. Maybe more. I started with $40,000.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: BridgeRunner on October 08, 2010, 10:49:26 PM
I started out with a gainfully employed spouse.  That lasted about two months.   =|
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 09, 2010, 01:01:04 AM
the other kiss of death for her is that her backing isn't local  even though she was raised here shes managed to be seen as representing outsiders

Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: HeroHog on October 09, 2010, 09:42:54 AM
IIRC, the advice is to have the better part of six months to a year on hand. If I'd needed a 3-5 year cushion in 1987 when I opened my photo studio, that would have been about half a million dollars. Maybe more. I started with $40,000.
You may be right, the old memory ain't what it used to be. I DO remember that it was a healthy chunk of change that was WAY outta MY reach....
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: sanglant on October 09, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
it's don't plan an making a profit in the first 2 years. and that's not counting what you pay yourself. =)

oh, and never hire a CPA, that hasn't pulled at least a year in the IRS. ;)
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Jamisjockey on October 10, 2010, 06:47:58 PM
Assuming permanent cuts aren't an option, are you saying you'd rather not have a temporary cut that would help someone getting started? You plan your business around the full tax burden, then use the 2yr cut to offset the expense of getting a business started.  I don't see the downside of that (assuming once again there is no alternative for a permanent cut).

Chris

I guess I'd just rather see the permanant cut...
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Fitz on October 10, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
Incumbent contradicts himself. Supports broadband grants for rural areas, etc, but wants to "reign in government spending."

I suppose these broadband grants fall outta trees, yeah?

Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 11, 2010, 06:33:53 PM
I thought most folks on this board were at least a little bit hard to fool, but Krystal Ball has pulled one over on some of us, without half trying. Yes, her verbiage in support of the 2nd Amendment sounds good, but it doesn't commit her to anything at all. The incumbent has an A rating from the NRA, and like any pro-gun incumbent, he has the NRA-PVF endorsement. Wittman proposes tax cuts for small businesses, not just "the middle class." On the other issues brought up so far, Ball and Wittman sound about the same, at least to me. (See below.) So what is the advantage of voting for a not-so-far-left Democrat over a not-so-far-right Republican? This is not a year when Americans can afford to allow Democrats to take Republican seats, no matter how fun they might be at parties.

Also note on her issues page, she's not mentioning cap and tax, health care, nor the environment.

From her Economy page
Provide a 50% cut in pay roll taxes for the first two years a small business starts up to make sure we have a system that encourages investment in our local economy.

cutting middle class taxes
The middle class tax cuts are set to expire this year, raising taxes on our families. In these tough economic times we must keep the tax burden off of middle class families, so they can continue to feed their children and pay their mortgages. I will fight to keep these tax cuts for middle class families.

Wittman's page.
http://www.robwittmanforcongress.com/on-the-issues.htm
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Cutting Taxes

I am deeply concerned about the current economic situation, and every day I talk to folks who are looking for work and trying to make ends meet. I believe the best thing Congress can do to spur job growth and help alleviate this economic downturn is to cut taxes for families and small businesses and pursue growth-oriented incentives that encourage economic activity and job creation.

Supporting Small Businesses

Small businesses are the backbone of our economy and create over 70% of the new jobs in this country every year. In Congress, I am a cosponsor of legislation that would place a 2-year moratorium on capital gains and dividends taxes, cut the payroll tax rate and the self-employed tax rate in half for two years, and reduce the lowest income brackets by 5% each. We also need to cut the bureaucratic red-tape that stifles small businesses and innovation.

Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: toysoldier on October 12, 2010, 06:52:49 PM
From her Economy page
Provide a 50% cut in pay roll taxes for the first two years a small business starts up to make sure we have a system that encourages investment in our local economy.

So, two years after you start a business, your payroll taxes will jump 50%. What if your business hasn't grown?  yeah, brilliant. 

Similar incentives have been tried in other countries. The net result is that many businesses reorganize into new companies, or move out of the country, when their tax cut expires. In essence, it is a permanent tax cut  for the unscrupulous.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: KD5NRH on October 12, 2010, 07:26:32 PM
BTW, I had a hard time determining if she was a Republican or Democrat

Oh, come on, even a typical voter could work that one out: "I am a 28-year-old wife, mother, Certified Public Accountant and small business owner, and the Democratic Nominee for US Congress in the 1st district of Virginia."

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Her "issues" page is just about spot on with my beliefs (her 2nd Amendment statement: I am an NRA member and pledge to be a fierce advocate of an individual's right to bear arms.).

How many gun grabbers have used the same wording, only to clarify after the election that they meant only "arms" they approve of, for only certain individuals? 
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on October 12, 2010, 07:33:53 PM
Oh, come on, even a typical voter could work that one out: "I am a 28-year-old wife, mother, Certified Public Accountant and small business owner, and the Democratic Nominee for US Congress in the 1st district of Virginia,"
But what if she said she had a MASTER'S DEGREE IN COMMUNICATION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMgyi57s-A4)?
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on October 12, 2010, 07:44:16 PM
...and I'm sure no one here has any embarrassing pics of themselves at adult-only parties....  ;/

You won't find any of me.

This stuff isn't that hard...
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 17, 2010, 01:40:06 PM
http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/102010/10162010/581694/index_html?page=1

good piece on her and the nonsense
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 17, 2010, 01:52:07 PM
You won't find any of me.

This stuff isn't that hard...

And has nothing to do with your competence as a public servant.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 17, 2010, 01:56:37 PM
except that ones credibility/judgement can be called into question
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 17, 2010, 02:43:50 PM
And has nothing to do with your competence as a public servant.

And has everything to do with helping her lose the election, because people want leaders they can respect. Not that we ever respect them, but for some reason we want them to be respectable.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 17, 2010, 03:14:30 PM
except that ones credibility/judgement can be called into question

Question to you: Were this the picture of a Republican candidate, would you switch over to the Democrat?

People who vote based on such things deserve the candidates they get.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fscrapetv.com%2FNews%2FNews+Pages%2Fusa%2Fimages-2%2Farnold-schwarzenegger-smoking-pot.jpg&hash=19470ee56b73965a431aa52509b2ae82ae0fc76f)

Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 17, 2010, 03:19:21 PM
she has tried to present herself as representing a certain position and image.  her lack of veracity is certainly of interest
shes borked in my hood anyway   and i live towards the liberal (closer to northern virginia ) end of the district
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 17, 2010, 03:21:02 PM
Obviously she's not a good candidate for office for a variety of reasons.

But as I mentioned naughty-pictures of a candidate in and of themselves should not ((but nonetheless will) disqualify them for office if they're better on the issues.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 17, 2010, 03:39:26 PM
But as I mentioned naughty-pictures of a candidate in and of themselves should not ((but nonetheless will) disqualify them for office if they're better on the issues.

Yes, it will (potentially) disqualify them, because voting has never been about a simple comparison of platform positions. Character is important in a candidate for its own sake, and because the platform is worse than useless if the candidate lacks the integrity to stand by it. Now you may not think that being naughty in public has any connection to a person's overall character, but some people think otherwise.

To ask what I, personally, would do if a Republican candidate was in this position is to miss the point. It's not about me; it's about what her constituents are likely to think. I'm just sayin, is all.

Actually, you could just ask me about Scott Brown, who had some embarrassing photos come to light last year. I reserve the right to think less of him for being a mimbo, but I would have likely voted for him. Then again, I think Democratic politicians are basically *Godwin deleted*, so it's more of a vote against them.

Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: seeker_two on October 17, 2010, 03:50:59 PM
except that ones credibility/judgement can be called into question

The fact that she's a politician does that anyway....
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Scout26 on October 17, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
Once again, the D's have dragged out something that the (R) candidate did while they were in screwl (in this case college, in the other case High Screwl). Holy Flaming Buddha on Pogo stick, did no one here not do anything they might be the least bit ashamed of in their youth ??

I basically give everyone a pass for what they did in high screwl and college (except for criminal/felony type things), as long as no one got hurt.    OHHHH, she and her husband went to an adult party and did goofy things for a camera with LEGAL but adult items, OOOOHHHH.

BIG. FARKING. DEAL.


No laws were broken.  Who Farking Cares.


Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 17, 2010, 11:52:50 PM
You realize that Krystal Ball is a Democrat, right?  =|

  OHHHH, she and her husband went to an adult party and did goofy things for a camera with LEGAL but adult items, OOOOHHHH.

BIG. FARKING. DEAL.

No laws were broken.  Who Farking Cares.

Well, one of is just way out of touch. Who does crap like that when they're hanging out with their friends? Who would even want to do that in private? If you want to do that, go right ahead, but some people will just have less respect for you. That's life.
Title: Re: local potential congress critter
Post by: sanglant on October 18, 2010, 12:31:36 AM
kind of makes you wonder why the great one's schoolin' was off limits. [tinfoil]