Columbus Day, No. Indigenous Peoples Day, Yes

[Ben]

What are they putting in the water in Seattle?

#IndigenousPeoplesDay is about recognizing the atrocities committed by Columbus and his fellow colonizers.

http://twitchy.com/2014/10/06/recognizing-the-atrocities-seattle-demonstrators-urge-city-council-to-replace-columbus-day-photos/

Anyway, I guess no Indian ever tortured or killed a European ever? Never displaced or enslaved another tribe? Never came to the continent from elsewhere?

[Balog]

In all fairness, Columbus was an incompetent johnny come lately that had no idea where he was, and was a real dick when he got there. Of course we white wash the horros and atrocities committed by the tribes he encountered.

I think we should change it to Viking Explorer day, celebrate the real first European settlers. 

[230RN]

I long ago decided that "Protected Classes" ("Minorities") don't want equality.

They want advantage.

[Triphammer]

 I've read  (where I don't recall) the Phoenicians were in N. America first. About a thousand years before the Vikings. Black Africans in S. America, according to recent discoveries, pre-date the Asians that are presumed to have crossed the Bering land bridge.

[Perd Hapley]

So from now on, Columbus Day will be celebrated by lambasting Europeans for being mean to Native Americans. How will that be different than the way it's been celebrated the past ten years?

[makattak]

I'll have to look it up, but I think recent archaeology is pointing towards the ORIGINAL settlers from Asia being like the Ainu people of Japan who were displaced by the Indians when they came over. (Note: I use what the "indigenous peoples" prefer to be called.)

[Boomhauer]

who were displaced by the Indians when they came over

Indians? Dot or Feather?

[makattak]

Feather. They displaced the previous peoples here when they came over.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I'll have to look it up, but I think recent archaeology is pointing towards the ORIGINAL settlers from Asia being like the Ainu people of Japan who were displaced by the Indians when they came over. (Note: I use what the "indigenous peoples" prefer to be called.)

That is my understanding as well


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[Firethorn]

In all fairness, Columbus was an incompetent johnny come lately that had no idea where he was, and was a real dick when he got there. Of course we white wash the horros and atrocities committed by the tribes he encountered.

I think we should change it to Viking Explorer day, celebrate the real first European settlers. 

The latest I heard was that Marco Polo may have known about America, but was too busy hanging out in China to really tell anybody.

[roo_ster]

I think I will wish everyone I meet a "Happy Columbus Day!" come Monday.

[Balog]

I need to write an indignant letter to the Seattle City Council pointing out the genocide of the Anasazi by the Apache and demanding they stop celebrating those murderers.

[TommyGunn]

I need to write an indignant letter to the Seattle City Council pointing out the genocide of the Anasazi by the Apache and demanding they stop celebrating those murderers.

Where do I go to complain about the numerous atrocities of Ghenghis Kahn?

[roo_ster]

Where do I go to complain about the numerous atrocities of Ghenghis Kahn?

My gripe is with Charlemagne.  That genocidal French/German/Dutch sacred-grove-destroying rat bastard.

[RoadKingLarry]

I'm a bit miffed about the whole Homo-sapiens pushing out the neanderthal thing.

[Balog]

My gripe is with Charlemagne.  That genocidal French/German/Dutch sacred-grove-destroying rat bastard.

Charles Martel. Vienna was the first hate crime.

[T.O.M.]

My court cancelled Columbus Day observation a few years back.  Not for these kinds of reasons, but in trade for the day after Thanksgiving.  This crap is just political correctness...again.

[Tallpine]

My court cancelled Columbus Day observation a few years back.  Not for these kinds of reasons, but in trade for the day after Thanksgiving.  This crap is just political correctness...again.

Do you still celebrate Cinncinatti Day 

 

[HankB]

Wasn't Columbus original expedition financed by Hispanic money?

And weren't the indigenous peoples of Central and South America abused by other Hispanics, including Cortez, Pizzaro, et.al., who murdered them in large numbers, enslaved them, and looted their treasures?

Seems to me that Native Americans/Indians/Whatever have a pretty big historical beef with the Hispanic community . . . and with the co-mingling of bloodlines over the centuries, they really ought to hate (drum roll please) . . . themselves.

[T.O.M.]

Do you still celebrate Cinncinatti Day 

 

I do when I get a chance to eat Skyline or Gold Star chilli, Graeter's Ice Cream, or Larosa's pizza.   

[Angel Eyes]

Thread necro: 

https://twitter.com/politicalsock/status/1579452835900829696

On #IndigenousPeoplesDay, it is wise to remember the first enslavement of humans when Europeans met North Americans:

Cabeza de Vaca and the shipwrecked survivors of the Narvaez expedition were enslaved by native tribespeople in what is now known as Texas.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/cabeza-de-vaca-discovers-texas

[WLJ]

Thread necro: 

https://twitter.com/politicalsock/status/1579452835900829696

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/cabeza-de-vaca-discovers-texas

Paypal has just pulled $2,500 from your account.

[Ben]

Since my OP in this thread, I have read a good half dozen biographies and autobiographies by trappers and other explorers from early-mid 1800s America. The stories of what the Indians did to whites, other tribes, and even animals, simply for their own amusement, will make you want to celebrate whatever the opposite of "indigenous people's day" is.

While white settlers are not blameless in the atrocities arena, Indians - including the women and children - did some pretty sick *expletive deleted*it.

On another note, the so-called "journalist" who tried to get a Target employee fired for not selling him a $100 toothbrush for $0.01, called child protective services on a woman who said she was celebrating Columbus Day with her young daughter. The claim was racism.

https://twitchy.com/amy-313134/2022/10/10/target-toothbrush-loser-david-leavitt-ties-up-virginia-child-abuse-hotline-over-a-mothers-tweet-about-american-history/

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/10/11/draaag-him-tina-ramirez-comes-out-swinging-after-target-toothbrush-loser-david-leavitt-threatened-her-with-cps-over-a-tweet/

[dogmush]

Thread necro: 

https://twitter.com/politicalsock/status/1579452835900829696

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/cabeza-de-vaca-discovers-texas

First enslavement of humans?

[WLJ]

First enslavement of humans?

Has to taken in context of "when Europeans met North Americans"

I did a double take on it at first.