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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: T.O.M. on January 09, 2021, 11:31:44 AM
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Reading more and more about how all of this is a concerted and planned effort by the liberal elite to take over the USA. Not arguing this point. My question:
What is their endgame? I've got an acquaintance who thinks that the goal is to eliminate state and local government for a complete federal system so they can have total control. I have doubts about this, as it would be a beaurocratic quagmire that would be virtually impossible to run.
Another acquaintance throws around the idea that they are going to create a completely socialist society with people assigned jobs, no money, and everything honky dory like Star Trek. Yeah. No. The rich elite aren't giving up their riches. That's the base of their power.
One is fixated on the concept of them creating a Nazi-esque society, where members of the party enjoy royal privileges. Massive slave-labor prison camps where those who oppose them will be incarcerated. Instead of segregation based on religion, it will be based on political beliefs. He cites to some libs reacting to the DC situation, especially a call by someone to use voting records to identify the Rs and incarcerate them for the good of the country.
What does APS think? What is their endgame goal?
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Well, as an educated, affluent, straight white male living in the Seattle area, I would have thought I would have been invited to be on the planning committee. So far, I have heard nothing.
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below the Illuminati/lizard people level, I doubt there's much of a plan other than keep the money flowing the way it has.
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corporate socialism, its not much different than national socialism.
probably equal opportunity mass killing, as opposed to strictly one race or the other.
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below the Illuminati/lizard people level, I doubt there's much of a plan other than keep the money flowing the way it has.
Which is best done subtly and over time, like gearing the education system to "enlightened" curriculum, editing texts, literature, and media to eliminate inappropriate ideas, and censoring thought outside specified parameters.
We have thousands of examples of the former, and if I were to sign up for a Twitter account today and express the same thoughts I express here, I would be banned within 24 hours.
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Which is best done subtly and over time, like gearing the education system to "enlightened" curriculum, editing texts, literature, and media to eliminate inappropriate ideas, and censoring thought outside specified parameters.
We have thousands of examples of the former, and if I were to sign up for a Twitter account today and express the same thoughts I express here, I would be banned within 24 hours.
That's along the line of my thinking, that there would be efforts to shift the "hearts and minds" as opposed to a brute force, sending forces in their new white armor to compel compliance with the new Galactic Empire or whatever. So many people I know think that Biden will be ordering troops into every city to force comoliance.. heck, there aren't enough troops for that. And, short of forcing Rs and conservative to wear red elephants on our clothing, you still can't tell who is on which side at a glance.
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What is their endgame?
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What does APS think? What is their endgame goal?
Their endgame is nothing as nefarious as what you listed. It is worse.
Their endgame is to fix everything they feel is broken. They have a mission, which they believe to be moral and right, to fix all the wrongs and injustices in America and the world. Freedom and liberty allow some people to thrive while others wither. The left sees that as an injustice, a failure, a double plus ungood, so freedom and liberty must be curtailed so they everyone is equal in every measure.
That is their goal and it is much worse than other endgames because they believe they have the moral high ground. They won't stop.
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I believe the endgame will be an aristocratic* authoritarian socialist government. I'm guessing it will take at least five or six years to fully implement, though that is just a gut estimate. The time frame could be longer.
It could be similar to the federal government as depicted in the "Enemies" books by Matt Bracken. Obviously, we won't get there the same way, but the final outcome as far as the the type of fedgov will be something like that. And this kind of government may well not be the goal of the leftists, it will just be the eventual result of the policies they implement.**
Government in all departments and at all levels will be overbearingly politically correct, with political correctness driving most policies and decisions.
The economy will be in ruins with a lot of people out of work and dependent on government. Shortages of basic goods and services will be the new normal. Ownership of most firearms will be illegal. Travel will be severely restricted, mostly by shortages of gasoline, but the government may well add restrictions, too.
The Internet will eventually be restricted, with only the ruling class and government functionaries having access.
Membership in the New Democratic Party will be required in order to vote in any elections. The elections themselves will be perfunctory in nature with only approved candidates being allowed to run for office.
I think we will be living a rather dystopian existence in the not too distant future.
* Aristocratic in the "government by a ruling class" sense, with the ruling class being the politicritters in power at the level.
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** Thinking further about this, I realize there are some truly evil people in the ruling class in DC. They hate the COTUS, they hate the fact that we have ever been a free people, etc. Psychopathic in many cases, their sole desire is the acquisition of power and wealth. They don't care who has to be hurt as they attain their goals. This type of government may be the outcome they desire, as long as they are at the top of the power structure.
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The system does what it has to do to maintain and expand control.
Even if there wasn't a master plan and planners, there is a long history of how bureaucracies gain control and consolidate power.
"We" aren't in a civil war or WWIII. Our hidden rulers might be experiencing a civil war or insurrection though, we may never know.
Control over the resources of our country are what the true rulers are squabbling over, people are a resource also.
We are just the pawns being used to stake out control over space on the board. The lefts pawns control the center of the board (the institutions). Taking out your opponents pawn structure gives you more room to maneuver. Deplatforming and banning speech is fracturing the rights pawn structure, denying the right space on the board. "Democracy" is what the movement of pawns really is in the game. There are many more powerful pieces on the board than a pawn and pawns frequently are sacrificed to protect the real power. The actual strength of pawns is how they are linked together, denying space to their opponent. The right is pretty fractured, the left seemingly can move at will.
The end game is denying people like us any real choices other than to assimilate into the system. We must not just begrudgingly accept the reality of their choosing but we must affirm our love of them, Big Brother.
Or we will be denied everything.
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Their endgame is to fix everything they feel is broken. They have a mission, which they believe to be moral and right, to fix all the wrongs and injustices in America and the world. Freedom and liberty allow some people to thrive while others wither. The left sees that as an injustice, a failure, a double plus ungood, so freedom and liberty must be curtailed so they everyone is equal in every measure.
That is their goal and it is much worse than other endgames because they believe they have the moral high ground. They won't stop.
^^^ Correct.
I received a new e-mail today from my uber liberal, aging hippy friend in Boston. More of the same nonsense -- Biden is The Great Hope for uniting the U.S. and purging all the horrible people Trump had in his administration. Anyone who stands for traditional American values is a deplorable -- but Hillary's big mistake was saying that in public.
Yes, they really believe all this stuff.
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Ever watch Serenity? They care so hard they will destroy society to make it perfect.
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End game? USA? Heh.
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The USA is merely in the way of the end game. A stumbling block. Freedom and all that.
The REAL endgame is a world, controlled completely by the .0001 percent, and run as their private playground.
They will use every effort to come up with life enhancing treatments, with the goal of becoming immortal.
They will eliminate most other humans on the planet as irrelevant eaters and defilers of the playground.
They will do this with a cadre of tech help, and a praetorian guard, aided by robotic systems , other military tech , bio weapons, and 24/7 real time surveillance of the earths surface.
All the support people will have a brain capsule implanted, to allow for instant death by radio signal in case they get uppity.
There will be a limited number of serfs to provide labor, sex toys, and for any other perverted pleasure the "elites" want- torture for example.
They want to be The Gods. Get the picture?
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End game? USA? Heh.
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The USA is merely in the way of the end game. A stumbling block. Freedom and all that.
The REAL endgame is a world, controlled completely by the .0001 percent, and run as their private playground.
They will use every effort to come up with life enhancing treatments, with the goal of becoming immortal.
They will eliminate most other humans on the planet as irrelevant eaters and defilers of the playground.
They will do this with a cadre of tech help, and a praetorian guard, aided by robotic systems , other military tech , bio weapons, and 24/7 real time surveillance of the earths surface.
All the support people will have a brain capsule implanted, to allow for instant death by radio signal in case they get uppity.
There will be a limited number of serfs to provide labor, sex toys, and for any other perverted pleasure the "elites" want- torture for example.
They want to be The Gods. Get the picture?
Pretty much this. Biblical scale genocide is coming. A culling of seven thousand million people if stuff like the Georgia guide stones are any indication.
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End game? USA? Heh.
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The USA is merely in the way of the end game. A stumbling block. Freedom and all that.
The REAL endgame is a world, controlled completely by the .0001 percent, and run as their private playground.
They will use every effort to come up with life enhancing treatments, with the goal of becoming immortal.
They will eliminate most other humans on the planet as irrelevant eaters and defilers of the playground.
They will do this with a cadre of tech help, and a praetorian guard, aided by robotic systems , other military tech , bio weapons, and 24/7 real time surveillance of the earths surface.
All the support people will have a brain capsule implanted, to allow for instant death by radio signal in case they get uppity.
There will be a limited number of serfs to provide labor, sex toys, and for any other perverted pleasure the "elites" want- torture for example.
They want to be The Gods. Get the picture?
Tok, I have a lot of respect for you, you know that. You're one of a very small handful of people that I've met in real life from this forum. But this is just a bridge of gloom and doom too far. It's a breakdown of what I consider rather stoic logic that typically comes from you.
And that's okay, everyone has an off the rails reaction every now and then when faced with Bad NewsTM.
The part I take issue with, is this:
They will eliminate most other humans on the planet as irrelevant eaters and defilers of the playground.
This is so blatantly wrong, it belies all the rest.
Libs are creatures of narcissism and ego. They need fawning and adoring masses. They go mad without it. They're attention vampires.
When it comes to their primary support demographic, Libs are supported predominantly by those irrelevant eaters and defilers of the playground. The 40 year old fry cooks and Walmart cashiers, the babymommas with 6 babydaddies, the crime prone who just want their next "second" chance, the morbidly obese and unemployed, and so on.
Who is it here that keeps bringing up post-scarcity? I'm struggling to remember his handle here, but didn't he own a garden store with his extended family? Gigabuist? Anyways... we're not at post-scarcity yet, but we creep closer every decade. And as minimum wage increases faster than inflation, employers adapt by introducing labor saving tools to the workplace which require a higher caliber of employee to operate. The net result is a certain demographic of people that are a class of Untouchables. Dalits, in the Hindi caste system. But worse, because they can't even do the most detested and least valued work. But they vote. And they take their Universal Basic Income checks, or WIC, or disability, or whatever.
And Democrats empower those people. All because of the stupidity of Democracy, and the notion that the votes of those people are worth a fart on the wind. Just to get to that 50.0001% vote result, so they can bully the 49.9999%.
If the irrelevant eaters are purged, and only productive people are left, we'll have Galt's Gulch. Not Orwell's Oceania. The meritless enfranchisement is the problem here, aside from the threat of Democracy itself to the rights of the individual.
I just had a meeting with a fellow Libertarian/AnCap rabble-rouser local to me today. Our whole movement is seething like a mass of ants. We're all getting in touch with each other and throwing ideas around for action items in light of the direction of this election. We're not doing it on social media. We've all been on a despair-driven cruise control since the 2012 Ron Paul campaign, and we're coming out of it in a sense of fevered self defense, dreading what will come from this next Congress and Executive session.
There are people actively working on blockchain based voter ID and vote tally systems, and have prototypes already operational.
There are people actively working on social media replacement networks, where posters OWN their content and the network is mechanically incapable of moderation or administrative censorship.
There are people actively working on alternatives to Youtube, with distributed video on demand. Again, uncensorable.
Musk's Starllink is about to come online. I guarantee you that hacks will become rapidly available to enable access outside the Great Firewall for Chinese users. If not... there are other projects. The guys over at /r/SpaceXMasterrace are building a gorram Meme satellite, that broadcasts memes. And they're not going to kowtow to China or turn it off while it's over Chinese territory. It's a private shitposting satellite. It's glorious.
So chin up, Tok. And everyone at APS. Facebook and Twitter suck, but we still have all the various Simple Machines style forums out there. Then there's Signal and Telegram, as well as APS, TFL, ADVRider, Thumpertalk, whatever your kink is, there is a non-Facebook forum to discuss it. Make use. If there isn't, go start one. This is a huge reason why I returned to APS after being absent for several years.
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It is instructive to go back in Politics and read the posts at the beginning of the first Obama administration. Most of the doom and gloom predictions then did not come true either.
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So chin up, Tok. And everyone at APS. Facebook and Twitter suck, but we still have all the various Simple Machines style forums out there. Then there's Signal and Telegram, as well as APS, TFL, ADVRider, Thumpertalk, whatever your kink is, there is a non-Facebook forum to discuss it. Make use. If there isn't, go start one. This is a huge reason why I returned to APS after being absent for several years.
And the fed.gov can shut it all down whenever they want.
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And the fed.gov can shut it all down whenever they want.
There are alternatives to DNS, and if shutdowns become prevalent, people will become more familiar with them.
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AZ,
The question was not whether this is going to be successful- the question was what their goal was- I think they want to be Gods.
Maybe because I grew up on sci-fi and American History. Half the sci fi has come true, the American History is all but forgotten- but I digress.
My take is they do see most on the planet as valued for one thing , and one thing only- a vote. A power lever.
Once the votes are no longer needed, neither are the voters...
Bear in mind the historical value of serfs was as farmers, because without farmers, an army cannot be fed, and without an army, there is no power. That's why controlling the Kanto was such a big deal- rice. A great deal of the industrial infrastructure now related to farming and production of goods is heavily automated- there is simply not the need for masses of people to support the elites.
So a relatively small technocrat class could fill the needs of a small elite class. And they won't get uppity- that poison brain capsule? A Saudi guy applied for a patent on it a few years ago. They did not grant it, apparently. There is no lap dog acolyte like a follower who knows the boss can kill him with the flick of a switch, with no consequence.
This is all from reading between the lines of what they have said, and extrapolating- - climate change is a example- if one really believes in AGW, what better way to eliminate it than by getting rid of the "A"? "no man, no problem", as Stalin is reputed to have said.
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Reality has become crazier than the conspiracy theories. There is more to his interview but I don't recall where I ran across the video. In the other clip he claims special forces went into the capital during all the commotion and stole computers out of Nancy Pelosi's office.
Of course with this is still being up on youtube that alone is weird, I would think they would and could nuke it if they wanted [tinfoil]
Gen.McInerney:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2175&v=nNktWsMfizQ&feature=youtu.be
edit.. more of his interview
https://twitter.com/lyne_ian/status/1347829726941888514
This isn't the first time I've heard that the 2020 election was a sting operation to rope all the traitors in and get hard evidence.
I guess I can wait another couple weeks before I dismiss this stuff.
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Gen. McInerney is known among his peers to be a conspiracy nut. He is not held in very high regard by anyone.
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What I like about perusing all the conspiracies is it makes me question the accepted narratives and opens up lines of possibilities/probabilities.
So much is fake.
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Just sat in on a virtual town hall my congressman was holding over the phone.
You think we are posting hyperbole and talking crazy ...
If he represents the sentiments of the rest of the Democrats (he does) we're in for a rough ride.
I only listened for a little bit, it was so over the top I decided not to subject myself to the crazy talk.
They are coming for our guns and going after Trump supporting congresscritters legally if at all possible. For sedition and treason.
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If they DID want another civil war what do you think they would do differently?
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Gen. McInerney is known among his peers to be a conspiracy nut. He is not held in very high regard by anyone.
That may be so but he is not a nobody.
He was a pretty vocal advocate for the neocon wars so that gives me more pause for reflection than his theories or pronouncements about Obama or the recent election.
Wiki:
After graduating from USMA in June 1959, McInerney was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the United States Army. He then joined the Air Force, and completed initial pilot training at Bartow Air Base, Florida, and Laredo Air Force Base, Texas, in November 1960. He participated in the Berlin and Cuban crises in 1962, flying escort missions in the West Berlin Air Corridor and escort reconnaissance missions over Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis. In April 1963, he was one of the first forward air controllers assigned to South Vietnam with a Vietnamese army division.[2] He participated in three additional Southeast Asia deployments.[2]
After completing the Armed Forces Staff College in February 1970, he was transferred to the Directorate of Operational Requirements, Air Force headquarters. Upon graduation from National War College in July 1973, McInerney was assigned to the 58th Tactical Fighter Training Wing, Luke Air Force Base, as F-104 and F-5 director of operations. In August 1974, he became the air attaché to the U.S. Embassy in London. From November 1976 until October 1977, he was vice commander of the 20th Tactical Fighter Wing, Royal Air Force Station Upper Heyford, England. McInerney then became military assistant to Ambassador Robert W. Komer. In March 1979, McInerney became commander of the 3rd Tactical Fighter Wing, Clark Air Base, Philippines.
In February 1981, he became commander of the 313th Air Division, Kadena Air Base, Japan. McInerney then was deputy chief of staff for operations and intelligence, Headquarters Pacific Air Forces, Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii, from June 1983 to July 1985, when he became commander of 3rd Air Force, Royal Air Force Station Mildenhall, England. In October 1986, McInerney was assigned as vice commander in chief, Headquarters U.S. Air Forces in Europe, Ramstein Air Base, West Germany. He became commander of Alaskan Air Command, Alaskan NORAD Region, and Joint Task Force Alaska in May 1988. McInerney assumed command of Alaskan Command upon its activation in July 1989 and became commander of 11th Air Force when Alaskan Air Command was redesignated 11th Air Force in August 1990.
McInerney's last active duty assignment was as assistant vice chief of staff, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C.[2] He retired from the Air Force on 1 July 1994.[2]
McInerney's military awards and decorations include the following:[2]
Distinguished Service Medal with 1 oak leaf cluster
Defense Superior Service Medal
Legion of Merit with 1 oak leaf cluster
Distinguished Flying Cross with 1 oak leaf cluster
Bronze Star Medal with 1 oak leaf cluster and "V" device
Meritorious Service Medal with 1 oak leaf cluster
Air Medal with 17 oak leaf clusters
Air Force Commendation Medal with 1 oak leaf cluster
National Defense Service Medal
Vietnam Service Medal with 1 silver star and 1 bronze star
Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross Unit Citation with palm
Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal with 1960- device
McInerney has also been awarded the Third Order of the Rising Sun by the Japanese government. McInerney was inducted into the USAF Order of the Sword in July 1980.
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I think the end game is for a handful of companies to own all of the production and distribution of basic goods in the US.
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I think the end game is for a handful of companies to own all of the production and distribution of basic goods in the US.
Something like a totalitarian global fascist state.
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Things are accelerating so fast it's almost unbelievable and scary as hell. Governments the world over have gone full authoritarian in the blink of an eye, betraying the citizenry.
The end game is complete and utter enslavement of humanity, under a ruling class of 'gods', tokugawa got it right.
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Something like a totalitarian global fascist state.
Could be, or the money folks control everything, kind of like feudalism
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I've read through these posts, and a thought keeps running through my head. Those who seek god/king status don't want to do the dirty jobs that must be done. They use the toilet, so they need operational water treatment plants. Need TP to wipe, so need lumberjacks/tree farmers. Need paper manufacturers. They want to ride around in their limos, or drive around in their sports cars. Need gas, so oil wells, petroleum plants, and the guy selling gas at the station. Need mechanics to fix them when issues develop, or just do standard maintenance. They like to eat. That means farmers/ranchers/fishermen. You need truck drivers/train operators to deliver all of these products. Bottom line, even the rulers would be consumers.
So, since consumers need producers, the "kill off most everyone" fails from the get go. Slave labor is fine for unskilled tasks. A lot of the labor they want is skilled labor. That means training and education, which doesn't work well with actual slaves.
Having spent a couple of days thinking about, here's my thought. They want power. Pure and simple, most people run for office to become powerful, to get wealthy, to hob nob with celebrities and other powerful people. To be powerful, you need those without power. Can't rule unless you have those who are ruled.
So, what are the threats to power? Freedom. Taking freedoms away is hard. People fight back when you outright take freedoms. Instead, convince people to give up freedom, perhaps for safety sake. Guns? Take them for the sake of the kids. Free speech? Messages of sedition/treason/racism need to be stopped. Free to choose your own jobs? Maybe give free education to people, if they take vocational tests and study in their chosen field. How do they keep their power? Increase their own base by making more fans of their ruling party. Free stuff. Popular programs.
My hope, the old truism. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Infighting in the Dems. Old school vs. AOC and her Crew. New blood in the Rep party. Maybe a third party, representing the political middle.
There's always hope...
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This day in history the Rubicon was crossed.
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We didn't give up when the germans bombed Pearl Harbor, so why give up now? I watched the Matrix like 30 times when it came out and I still can't get into some of these over the top fantasies of the end of the world. Robot overlords is about as likely as Lin Wood leading an army across the potomac to re-capture the white house. Ain't happening. The real stuff we face with the tech censors and guns and such is bad enough, why write yourself off to any person more normal than you by being all bug eyed crazy? Republicans are stupid and just as sure as that the leftists always, always over-reach. In my view the far left, the power mad like Pelosi, and the tech firms are about like Custer, ditched Reno and Benteen, ditched any real good plan. Damn, that's a lot of Indians...
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We didn't give up when the germans bombed Pearl Harbor, so why give up now? I watched the Matrix like 30 times when it came out and I still can't get into some of these over the top fantasies of the end of the world. Robot overlords is about as likely as Lin Wood leading an army across the potomac to re-capture the white house. Ain't happening. The real stuff we face with the tech censors and guns and such is bad enough, why write yourself off to any person more normal than you by being all bug eyed crazy? Republicans are stupid and just as sure as that the leftists always, always over-reach. In my view the far left, the power mad like Pelosi, and the tech firms are about like Custer, ditched Reno and Benteen, ditched any real good plan. Damn, that's a lot of Indians...
Yup.
Despair is unbecoming of us.
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This day in history the Rubicon was crossed.
Alea iacta est
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Yup.
Despair is unbecoming of us.
Strangely, I find this all sort of exciting.
Hopefully it doesn't get too exciting.
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I'm not looking forward to a god king after a civil war. I'm not looking for a civil war. It will be anything but.
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I'm not looking forward to a god king after a civil war. I'm not looking for a civil war. It will be anything but.
No sane person wants a civil war, but the alternative in the long term is almost certainly worse.
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Strangely, I find this all sort of exciting.
Hopefully it doesn't get too exciting.
Do you want to live forever?
I know I have no desire to live under the bullshit they're pushing.
As previously stated, I've made my peace with God, lets dance.
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Knowing what they want to do is not despair. Despair is giving up.
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No sane person wants a civil war, but the alternative in the long term is almost certainly worse.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.
John Stuart Mill,
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War is delightful for those who have no experience of it. - Erasmus
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We didn't give up when the germans bombed Pearl Harbor, so why give up now?
I see what you did there. Great movie.
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Do you want to live forever?
I know I have no desire to live under the bullshit they're pushing.
As previously stated, I've made my peace with God, lets dance.
Like you, I believe there is something going down behind the scenes.
I also have confidence in Gods mercy and turned to Jesus long ago. Having faith that "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him".
It looks like our country was purchased and the folks who own it want to do some renovating.
We came as part of the package.
If it comes to violence you will be fighting friends, family, neighbors and countryman. You will be fighting the cannon fodder who have been deceived (some willingly).
The rules of "be sure of your target" and be sure of your backstop" still apply.
The America in your mind all these years was fake. The "steal" probably took place longer ago than we can imagine.
I'm not ready to hop on my horse and charge off in every direction.
Personally, I need the dust to settle a bit so I can observe what is going on to orientate myself to the new circumstances. Then I can decide what my actions will be going forward. ;)
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FWIW, I was reading the German version of the Epoch Times this morning, and Trump-hating Merkel of all people seemed pretty put-out about what Twitter did. Same with some quoted French higher-level politicians.
We make fun of the EU and the UN wanting to be overlords, and now, they appear to be standing up for freedom more than the US. I would never have expected that.
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FWIW, I was reading the German version of the Epoch Times this morning, and Trump-hating Merkel of all people seemed pretty put-out about what Twitter did. Same with some quoted French higher-level politicians.
We make fun of the EU and the UN wanting to be overlords, and now, they appear to be standing up for freedom more than the US. I would never have expected that.
The dummies are just now figuring out that if it can be done to us it can be done to them.
It's not freedom they love but their positions of power/authority.
They thought they were getting rid of a bully and now they are going to find out who's the real bully.
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The dummies are just now figuring out that if it can be done to us it can be done to them.
Honestly, at this point, that's almost good enough for me. It is certainly more self-aware than our dem reps.
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FWIW, I was reading the German version of the Epoch Times this morning, and Trump-hating Merkel of all people seemed pretty put-out about what Twitter did. Same with some quoted French higher-level politicians.
We make fun of the EU and the UN wanting to be overlords, and now, they appear to be standing up for freedom more than the US. I would never have expected that.
Lip service that costs them nothing and obligates them in no way.
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Do you want to live forever?
I know I have no desire to live under the bullshit they're pushing.
As previously stated, I've made my peace with God, lets dance.
THIS, so much THIS!
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FWIW, I was reading the German version of the Epoch Times this morning, and Trump-hating Merkel of all people seemed pretty put-out about what Twitter did. Same with some quoted French higher-level politicians.
We make fun of the EU and the UN wanting to be overlords, and now, they appear to be standing up for freedom more than the US. I would never have expected that.
Call me cynical, but other than Poland's threats to fine social media platforms for censoring otherwise legal content, I don't think this is some groundswell for "freedom".
I think it's more a matter of that the European powers that be expect nominal fealty to left of center and further politics from large corporations, so big virtue signaling gestures like deplatforming Trump don't buy them any significant goodwill with European politicians.
What I'm thinking is this.
1. They see Trump getting deplatformed, and they worry they could be next. They probably know that within the leftist sphere, it's a broad ideology that's more than willing to "eat it's own".
2. For the reasons above, the European politician's natural disdain for any large corporation not sufficiently under the government's thumb is not overridden by whatever goodwill deplatforming Trump would have gained them.
3. They probably see deplatforming Trump as unnecessary salt in the wounds, and only strengthening American polarization and instability. America gets a cold, Europe and the rest of the world gets the flu and all that.
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You know the left has gone off the rails when the ACLU has issues with them:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/8/aclu-raises-concerns-amid-trump-twitter-ban/
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Also, anybody else hearing rumors of troop movements?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4Ive7pL7o
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Also, anybody else hearing rumors of troop movements?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4Ive7pL7o
Leftist press is openly saying 6,500 guard in D.C. for the 20th with a thousand there now.
Military grapevine says those there now are in hotel rooms, not allowed to leave them except for food, and while they brought their weapons those have been stored collectively somewhere out of reach. (ETA: confidence on this RUMINT is high as it is a personal report from a soldier in the capitol.)
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Also, anybody else hearing rumors of troop movements?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4Ive7pL7o
I saw some stories about Pelosi losing it because the national guard is finally showing up in DC after the events there. Those were on Whatfinger News, and you have to filter out all the tinfoil hat stuff on that site to make sure you're getting real news. There was also some tinfoily video stuff from Gen. McInerny on there. I think troop movements were mentioned in those based on the headlines. Something about martial law being declared, democrat traitors jailed, etc. I didn't watch the videos as I'm trying to retain a few rational brain cells.
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You know the left has gone off the rails when the ACLU has issues with them:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/8/aclu-raises-concerns-amid-trump-twitter-ban/
This is probably more along the lines of a broken clock showing the correct time twice a day. That ACLU dweeb will no doubt be forced to recant her story.
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Those are Strykers, and despite the narration, there's no live ammo evident in that video. The ground guide's rifle also still has an arms room toe tag on it, so they aren't looking to go right into the *expletive deleted*it.
They do seem to have M2's in the mounts, so unless there's more info, I'd speculate going to or coming from a range.
Next time get a bumper number and unit, so we can properly tinfoil. And flip your iPhone over to HD video. I've seen Al Quieda IED videos with better focus and resolution.
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Lip service that costs them nothing and obligates them in no way.
I won't contest that, and further think that the statements are in their own self-interest, because they realize they could be next. Something the dems in the US currently think is not possible. Right this minute they think they are indestructible, with the backing of the tech giants.
If those tech giants begin to lose power outside of the US (and that's a pretty huge population of users), even because of the "I might be next" philosophy over the freedom philosophy, that's still a good thing, IMO.
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The tech giants are employees, not the boss.
Even though Americans have been taught hierarchies are "bad white patriarchal" things, ALL of reality is subject to hierarchy.
The tech giants are accountable to somebody.
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Biden letting us know what equality means:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/01/11/just-not-you-white-men-maybe-its-just-us-but-bidens-priorities-for-rebuilding-american-small-businesses-sound-pretty-damn-racist/
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Interesting. If you've used the term "boogaloo" in a non-derogatory way regarding the movement, it sounds like you're part of the movement, according to the FBI and their social media agents.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/boogaloo-fbi-protests-riots-capitol-hill-police-law-enforcement
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I really want to know who is trying to keep us divided?
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I really want to know who is trying to keep us divided?
Who is going to make money off of the increased left/right divide?
Having said that, the China thing does seem to be a real issue.
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Interesting. If you've used the term "boogaloo" in a non-derogatory way regarding the movement, it sounds like you're part of the movement, according to the FBI and their social media agents.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/boogaloo-fbi-protests-riots-capitol-hill-police-law-enforcement
From the article:
Members of the anti-government, pro-gun "boogaloo" movement advocate for a second civil war or the collapse of society, and they don't adhere to a coherent political philosophy. They often wear Hawaiian shirts and tactical gear and carry high-powered rifles.
I'm not sure I've seen very many folks "advocating" for a civil war. Thinking it's inevitable? sure, but not really itching to go. I guess there's always a few in any crowd, but I haven't seen it from "the movement".
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Who is going to make money off of the increased left/right divide?
Having said that, the China thing does seem to be a real issue.
or who's house is going to burn if people stop fighting and pay attention to where they are really getting f**ked
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Like you, I believe there is something going down behind the scenes.
I also have confidence in Gods mercy and turned to Jesus long ago. Having faith that "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him".
It looks like our country was purchased and the folks who own it want to do some renovating.
We came as part of the package.
If it comes to violence you will be fighting friends, family, neighbors and countryman. You will be fighting the cannon fodder who have been deceived (some willingly).
The rules of "be sure of your target" and be sure of your backstop" still apply.
The America in your mind all these years was fake. The "steal" probably took place longer ago than we can imagine.
I'm not ready to hop on my horse and charge off in every direction.
Personally, I need the dust to settle a bit so I can observe what is going on to orientate myself to the new circumstances. Then I can decide what my actions will be going forward. ;)
I'll walk the chest thumping back a bit on that one. I'm in no way cheerleading for open violence. I think it's inevitable, but I take no joy in that. I know the stakes there, as you stated.
They've just been *expletive deleted*ing with us for so long, to actually see something happen is almost encouraging. The normies are noticing, and the unquiet vibe I'm getting off people that are usually just oblivious is palpable.
I'd have been perfectly happy living my life quietly. I'm set. great family, independently wealthy. The thought of rocking that boat sucks, but it looks like they're going to insist.
You can put " He just wanted to be left alone" on my headstone.
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Watching them keep ratcheting up the anti-conservative narrative is a little disconcerting.
Again, if they did want this to end in violence what do you think they might do differently?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjGbxCi3vk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LjGbxCi3vk)
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Biden letting us know what equality means:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/01/11/just-not-you-white-men-maybe-its-just-us-but-bidens-priorities-for-rebuilding-american-small-businesses-sound-pretty-damn-racist/
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErN1SLbW8AATHJB?format=jpg&name=medium)
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(https://malcolmpollack.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/AbusiveRelationshipChart.jpg)
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^^^^^^
My ex-wife right there.
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(https://malcolmpollack.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/AbusiveRelationshipChart.jpg)
Yep.
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Dems tossing around terms like "Nuremberg trials"
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Dems tossing around terms like "Nuremberg trials"
Politicians, former cabinet members and the MSM advocating "Truth and Reconciliation Commissions". That is the name they all have actually been using.
Trump supporters are to be brought in front of these commissions in order to determine if they can be reeducated or if they must be marginalized and shunned by (the new normal) society.