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Title: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 17, 2008, 03:28:32 AM
http://iowaindependent.com/5627/sebelius-obamas-race-may-be-a-factor

Once again it is the Democrats bringing up the race card.

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IOWA CITY  Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius publicly considered the possibility that Sen. Barack Obamas race might be a factor in this years presidential election during an appearance here Tuesday.

Have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African-American? Sebelius asked in response to a question about why the election is so close. That may be a factor. All the code language, all that doesnt show up in the polls. And that may be a factor for some people.

The remark, delivered in the governors low key, folksy, out-from-behind-the-podium style, raised a couple chuckles but few eyebrows in the downtown Iowa City crowd, but Republicans took offense and responded in short order.

Governor Sebeliuss remarks in Iowa City today are hurtful and divisive at best, said Republican Party of Iowa Executive Director Caleb Hunter in a press release. With less than 50 days to go, Democrats will continue to try and change the focus away from the issues that will decide this election.

The rest of Sebelius remarks in Iowa City stuck closely to the Obama campaigns talking points.

The bottom line question is, do you think George Bush has been a wonderful president? she told an audience whose questions focused as much on the horse race as on specific issues.

One questioner argued that Obama was under-performing in polls because young voters with cell phones were under-reported, and Sebelius agreed. I have a 24 year old and a 27 year old and theyve never had a land-line since they went to college, she said. So they dont show up in polls. But they need to show up at the polls.

Yet at each turn, Sebelius tried to return the dialogue to bread and butter issues, to the delight of Bob Elliott, a former member of Iowa Citys city council and a leading local supporter of Sen. Joe Biden during the Iowa caucuses.

Lipstick can stay home! Talk about the issues! he shouted, in apparent reference to another governor.

During a brief press availability, Sebelius said she didnt know much about her Alaska colleague. Shes one of our new governors, and Ive met her at a couple of events that all the governors were at, she said of GOP vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.  But weve really had no personal interaction. The real issue is John McCain vs. Barack Obama, and their policies could not be more different.

Sebelius responded to criticism from Kansas Republicans about her campaign visits, and implied that the campaigning went hand in hand with her job.

I can do a much better job as governor of Kansas, and Chet Culver can do a much better job in Iowa, if we have a partner in the White House instead of an adversary.

I am so glad I got out of Kansas.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: HankB on September 17, 2008, 05:22:45 AM
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All the code language, all that doesnt show up in the polls.
"Code language" indeed . . .

When a liberal/Democrat starts talking about "code language" it just means they can't find something their opponent actually said to attack, so they make something up, ascribe it to their opponent, and attack that instead.

The latest I've heard is that "community organizer" is "code" for "the N-word."

These people are losing it, they really are . . . panic has set in.   grin
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 17, 2008, 05:36:11 AM
In the meanwhile Obama is catching up with McCain. We do not have this in the bag yet.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: agricola on September 17, 2008, 05:41:24 AM
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All the code language, all that doesnt show up in the polls.
"Code language" indeed . . .

When a liberal/Democrat starts talking about "code language" it just means they can't find something their opponent actually said to attack, so they make something up, ascribe it to their opponent, and attack that instead.

The latest I've heard is that "community organizer" is "code" for "the N-word."

These people are losing it, they really are . . . panic has set in.   grin

Yes, but lets all thank God that noone in this election campaign has actually said something as offensive as, say, a joke that combines part of one candidates' convention speech and an unflattering animal.  Then we would be in serious trouble.

 rolleyes
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Standing Wolf on September 17, 2008, 05:48:05 AM
I'd have expected no less than racism from an anti-Second Amendment bigot.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Silver Bullet on September 17, 2008, 05:24:32 PM
Race will be a factor, all right.  I think I read that 80% of black voters are voting for Obama.


Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Monkeyleg on September 17, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
Have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African-American?

She really is a latecomer to the campaign, isn't she? His race is the only thing that's gotten him this far. If a white male with such thin credentials would have run in the primary, he would have finished about five points lower than Dennis Kucinich.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 17, 2008, 06:16:52 PM
Why is Obama always half black?  Why not call him half white?  Isn't that sorta like a cup-half-empty-vs-half-full thing?  Equally true either way...

Feh.

Can you imagine the outcry if someone had the nerve to call him half white?  Or even just white?  Nobody bats an eye when someone calls him black.  But he's just as much white, so why not call him a white man?

Does anyone really care what color he is?  I mean, aside form him being red?
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: grampster on September 17, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
People in his own party are the only ones who keep bringing up race.  If it weren't so sad it would be funny.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Bruce H on September 17, 2008, 07:00:06 PM
This is why we call her Sillybus. Just use zebra. Less letters to type.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: longeyes on September 17, 2008, 08:40:00 PM
More like 90+ per cent of blacks are voting for Obama.

I think Obama is best understood as a white man trying, too hard, to be black.


Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Intune on September 18, 2008, 04:42:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxf35b06s4

"The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't even celebrate that sh*t 'cause I'm black G*d dam*t.  Obama '08!   Obama '08 and all that sh*t."

So Michelle is finally proud to be an American and Josh Howard still isn't.

It doesn't have squat to do with race Sebelius.  It is about love for country.  Or, conversely, lack thereof. 
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: longeyes on September 18, 2008, 07:38:38 AM
The elites will be shocked, shocked, shocked when racial discord really hits America.  They are setting the stage for the very thing they claim to hate and fear: the rise of the ultra-right.

Over in socialist paradise Sweden, with its suffocating bureaucratic welfare state and lunatic immigration policies, there's been a growing resurgence of a very unlikely group: the Hell's Angels.  Yeah.

Unreason breeds unreason.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 18, 2008, 07:45:47 AM
Swedish Hells Angels?   cheesy  Are they all blond and tall? 

Can you picture a big, mean, angry biker gang dude named Sven?

Do they meet in the sauna to plan their dastardly biker gang crimes?
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: roo_ster on September 18, 2008, 07:50:26 AM
Swedish Hells Angels?   cheesy  Are they all blond and tall? 

Can you picture a big, mean, angry biker gang dude named Sven?

Do they meet in the sauna to plan their dastardly biker gang crimes?

More importantly, do they have cycle-towed saunas to take with them as they scour the highways & by-ways for trouble?
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: longeyes on September 18, 2008, 08:43:04 AM
Mock on.

I am not endorsing the phenomenon.  I am telling you what is brewing.  This is what happens when you have feckless socialist regimes that look the other way when immigrant gang-rapes become a daily affair.

As I said, Unreason breeds Unreason. 

And, yes, it will happen here.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Manedwolf on September 18, 2008, 09:09:43 AM
Swedish Hells Angels?   cheesy  Are they all blond and tall? 

Can you picture a big, mean, angry biker gang dude named Sven?

Do they meet in the sauna to plan their dastardly biker gang crimes?

Brock Samson.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: The Annoyed Man on September 18, 2008, 09:21:21 AM
Mock on.

I am not endorsing the phenomenon.  I am telling you what is brewing.  This is what happens when you have feckless socialist regimes that look the other way when immigrant gang-rapes become a daily affair.

As I said, Unreason breeds Unreason. 

And, yes, it will happen here.
It almost sounds as if you've been over here, because you speak the Truth?.
Last case, while not a rape was only a week or so back. 20+ guys, all of them immigrant of course, attacking 1 single Swedish girl, kicking her in the head. Most newspapers didn't find this very newsworthy for some reason, probably because the both the victim and the criminals had the wrong skin color. Had it been whites attacking a non-white, they would've been hauled in approximetly 45 minutes after it happened. Fortunatly there are still some among us who have Viking blood and Amanita spiced mead running through their veins, so they went after the enrichers. Suffered some injuries for it, but they got the respect of Odin only knows how many people. The guestbook for their hockey club was overrun by praise and well-wishes and promises of support.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 18, 2008, 09:42:56 AM
Mock on.

I am not endorsing the phenomenon.  I am telling you what is brewing.  This is what happens when you have feckless socialist regimes that look the other way when immigrant gang-rapes become a daily affair.

As I said, Unreason breeds Unreason. 

And, yes, it will happen here.
Sorry.  I wasn't trying to mock you.  I just find the thought of a Swedish Hell's Angel to be highly amusing.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: roo_ster on September 18, 2008, 10:09:17 AM
Sorry.  I wasn't trying to mock you.  I just find the thought of a Swedish Hell's Angle to be highly amusing.

Acute or obtuse?
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 18, 2008, 05:01:14 PM
Sorry.  I wasn't trying to mock you.  I just find the thought of a Swedish Hell's Angle to be highly amusing.

Acute or obtuse?

I don't follow.

Huh?
Title: Acute vs Obtuse
Post by: ArfinGreebly on September 18, 2008, 05:35:56 PM
A N G L E

You know, that thing you get when two lines intersect?

 grin

Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 18, 2008, 05:42:01 PM
Oh.  Ooops.

Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: agricola on September 18, 2008, 09:46:50 PM
Obama manages to avoid the use of code language, by using the Spanish language with which to pass on this message:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=30479

McCain and his friend Rush, from the campaign that claims its not completely dishonest.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: S_O_Laban on September 19, 2008, 02:55:02 AM
I'd have expected no less than racism from an anti-Second Amendment bigot.


Exactly
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 19, 2008, 08:36:11 AM
Obama manages to avoid the use of code language, by using the Spanish language with which to pass on this message:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=30479

McCain and his friend Rush, from the campaign that claims its not completely dishonest.

With quotations taken so completely out of context, it's really quite ironic.  The Rush Limbaugh quotation, "shut up or go home," was actually his take on Mexican immigration laws.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 19, 2008, 08:39:36 AM
I admit I have been very, very dense on this issue.  A year ago everyone was saying that, if Obama were nominated, any criticism of him would be dismissed as racism.  No, I thought.  Too easy.  Too obvious. 

I was completely wrong.  Nothing is too low for our left-wing.
Title: Re: Sebelius: Obamas race may be a factor
Post by: MrRezister on September 19, 2008, 08:47:06 AM
One point a lot of these concerned citizens seem to miss is that about half of the country wouldn't vote for Obama anyway, because of the platform of the Democrat party.  That would be true regardless of his skin color.  So who are the people that they are so concerned about?  The ones that (supposedly) aren't going to turn out to vote for "the black guy"?  Doesn't it have to be Democrats and the ever-important Independents?