Author Topic: Look out! It's a cross! (Read 18744 times)

Iain · « **Reply #50 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:13:01 PM »

Balog - it's nothing to do with being British or American or me telling you how things should be done over there.

Quote from: MicroBalrog on September 18, 2009, 02:34:34 PM

It seems to be you referred to "They should be free to hire and promote for whatever reason they see fit. Just as you should be able to quit for any reason you want," as "charming idealism"? Am I wrong?

It's no more or less idealistic than the notion that legislation can and will prevent people from hiring and firing on dubious grounds. Regulate it all versus deregulate it all, interesting for pontification but that's about it.

I've worked in around the disability field long enough to know there are ridiculous practices (posts reserved for disabled people) and there are practices that allow disabled people access to decent employment prospects.

roo_ster · « **Reply #51 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:47:39 PM »

For my own part, I'd prefer that folks, especially employers, be open & out front in their prejudices. I think that is fairest for the employee, who can choose not to work for folks who think less of him for some reason...or at least he'll know what he is signing up for.

Legal language about non-discrimination just makes an employer document an employee's imperfections.

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #52 on:** September 18, 2009, 04:52:04 PM »

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Regulate it all versus deregulate it all, interesting for pontification but that's about it.

Why so? I'd say this debate is eminently practical.

280plus · « **Reply #53 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:47:56 PM »

Would all you peace and love religious folk stop fighting please?

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #54 on:** September 18, 2009, 11:14:27 PM »

Pipe down, unbeliever, or I shall sic my cross on thee!

RaspberrySurprise · « **Reply #55 on:** September 18, 2009, 11:40:48 PM »

You seem pretty cross already.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #56 on:** September 19, 2009, 12:51:31 AM »

I AM NOT CROSS!

280plus · « **Reply #57 on:** September 19, 2009, 08:30:27 AM »

Another cross beating? Sigh,,,I can't win either...

BryanP · « **Reply #58 on:** September 19, 2009, 09:48:57 AM »

Don't cross me boy.

seeker_two · « **Reply #59 on:** September 19, 2009, 10:41:14 AM »

One good thing about having that cross above the door....it'll keep the vampires away....esp. those prissy, emo-type vampires from TWILIGHT...

Thor · « **Reply #60 on:** September 20, 2009, 03:33:39 PM »

To re-iterate and expand on what was stated early ion the thread;

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It seems to me that many people are actually attempting to prohibit the free exercise of one's chosen religion. Like was said, Freedom OF Religion, not freedom FROM Religion. It's just like the fact that there are going to be 50,000 Muslims praying somewhere on or about the White House lawn (or some other Government property). While I don't like Islam, it's not up to ANYBODY to prohibit their prayer day. I DON'T like the fact that 0bama neglected the National Day of Prayer (which shows NO religious preference) and yet, supports this prayer day for the Muslims.

Bigjake · « **Reply #61 on:** September 20, 2009, 05:50:10 PM »

Quote from: seeker_two on September 19, 2009, 10:41:14 AM

One good thing about having that cross above the door....it'll keep the vampires away....esp. those prissy, emo-type vampires from TWILIGHT...

I friggin HATE sparkly vampires.. (Crosses fingers hoping Larry Correia has an "Edward" cameo, that gets brutally gunned down with heavy weapons. And fire. Then staked.)

RaspberrySurprise · « **Reply #62 on:** September 20, 2009, 10:36:58 PM »

Hot cross buns?

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #63 on:** September 20, 2009, 11:01:32 PM »

Quote from: RaspberrySurprise on September 20, 2009, 10:36:58 PM

Hot cross buns?

I guess they'd better keep those, and the Peeps, away from the Kosher aisle. And ironically enough for the whiny Jewess in question, Schnuck's Markets DO tend to have a Kosher section in their stores. Wanna bet she's never complained about that?

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #64 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:20:35 AM »

Lots of people are ethnically Jews but don't observe the customs at all.

For example. I love me some bacon.

280plus · « **Reply #65 on:** September 21, 2009, 06:50:12 AM »

Hee heeee, I worked at a Kosher meat packing plant while in high school. VERY Orthodox. They even had a Synagogue right in the family home. All us wise ass Gentiles would go there with ham sandwiches and milk for lunch just to rile the old ladies. The best one was "Stella", she'd yell at us and tell us God was going to strike us dead for doing that. "STELLLLLAAAAA!!!" was also heard quite frequently around the plant.

My personal favorite was "Mary". Mary was this short little fireplug looking Polish Jew, probably 4' nothing, She could one arm a full 5 gallon bucket of water straight over her head. Nobody messed with Mary.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #66 on:** September 21, 2009, 09:41:14 AM »

Quote from: MicroBalrog on September 21, 2009, 06:20:35 AM

Lots of people are ethnically Jews but don't observe the customs at all.

For example. I love me some bacon.

I know. Why do you mention it?

roo_ster · « **Reply #67 on:** September 21, 2009, 11:29:50 AM »

Quote from: fistful on September 21, 2009, 09:41:14 AM

I know. Why do you mention it?

Expressing one's love of bacon is always appropriate.

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #68 on:** September 21, 2009, 12:36:38 PM »

Quote from: fistful on September 21, 2009, 09:41:14 AM

I know. Why do you mention it?

Because it's possible that's the reason she hasn't complained about kosher food.

Headless Thompson Gunner · « **Reply #69 on:** September 21, 2009, 12:56:01 PM »

Quote from: MicroBalrog on September 21, 2009, 12:36:38 PM

Because it's possible that's the reason she hasn't complained about kosher food.

She hasn't mentioned it because only Christians are oppressive thugs who try to impose their views on others.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #70 on:** September 21, 2009, 01:02:37 PM »

Quote from: MicroBalrog on September 21, 2009, 12:36:38 PM

Because it's possible that's the reason she hasn't complained about kosher food.

She hasn't complained about the presence of a kosher food aisle, because she doesn't use the kosher food aisle?

I'm not sure I wanna keep talking about this, though. All this talk of kosher is making me feel excluded.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #71 on:** September 21, 2009, 01:49:15 PM »

I like kosher pickles.

mellestad · « **Reply #72 on:** September 21, 2009, 02:02:50 PM »

Quote from: fistful on September 17, 2009, 11:34:20 PM

Click the link for the full story.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/religion/story/63C5936DF7DC18EE862576330010EF45?OpenDocument

Two points to emphasize:

1. If you think a crucifix hanging on the wall means that you are being "excluded" or that religion is being shoved down your throat, that is your doing. It is all in your head. My favorite new restaurant down the street from me has Islamic stuff behind the counter. Help, help, I'm being oppressed. But boy do they have good shawarma.

2. I know Jews have been called Christ-killers, and that's very sad and stupid. I know it's a very sensitive issue. But to say that a crucifix offends you on those grounds? That's silly. You should have some pride, have some strength, and get on with your day.

She can be offended all she likes though, it isn't like she is trying to sue anyone, is she? If she is trying to sue, then she is, of course, in the wrong. But hey, if it makes her uncomfortable then she can write a letter to the editor and try to get the chain to establish an official policy banning articles of faith. No need to 'crucify' her over expressing an opinion. (haha!)

Honestly, as long as no-one is making a legal issue about it, who cares? She is just using her right of free speech to protest what someone else did while they were exercising their own right of free speech. The whole thing is very American!

Personally, she is probably crazy though. I don't like people who are offended that easily.

RaspberrySurprise · « **Reply #73 on:** September 21, 2009, 02:06:52 PM »

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She is just using her right of free speech to protest what someone else did while they were exercising their own right of free speech.

And so are we!

She's free to complain about the crucifix, and we're free to call her an idjit for doing so.

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Personally, she is probably crazy though. I don't like people who are offended that easily.

Oppressor! :D

mellestad · « **Reply #74 on:** September 21, 2009, 02:15:58 PM »

Quote from: RaspberrySurprise on September 21, 2009, 02:06:52 PM

Oppressor! :D

Lol. I'm totally suing you for libel!

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Author Topic: Look out! It's a cross! (Read 18744 times)