Post by: Antibubba on October 02, 2008, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: The Annoyed Man on October 02, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
Post by: Harold Tuttle on October 02, 2008, 06:03:05 PM
Post by: don on October 02, 2008, 06:14:07 PM
It would be hard for anyone to go up against Joe Biden in a debate--dislike him I do, but he knows his subjects. But why, WHY, does she have to say NUKULAR
Well, isn't that the way Bush says it? It is interesting how she and McCain are trying so hard to distance themselves from Bush and other republicans. Are they ashamed to be republicans? Biden tried his best to connect them to Bush and she tried her best to separate her and McCain from Bush. She got the prize for metaphors and attempts to score zingers, but they were not very original. She even quoted Reagan a few times. In short she was outclassed in this debate. As far as scoring points with Joe Sixpack, she wasn't too bad. As to who won- that probably depends on what party you support.
Post by: ronnyreagan on October 02, 2008, 06:15:28 PM
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Post by: ArfinGreebly on October 02, 2008, 06:23:07 PM
Ronny, man, you've been all kinds of "harbinger of doom."
I keep expecting you to say "we're all gonna DIE!"
Are you just trying to avoid disappointment by keeping expectations low?
Or are you trying to keep the rest of us depressed?
Post by: ronnyreagan on October 02, 2008, 06:25:17 PM
Post by: don on October 02, 2008, 06:29:56 PM
Palin stuck to her talking points and tried to avoid the questions - but if anything that points to her being trained in debating for the past week. While I'm still not impressed with her, she did better than I expected (Not that I expected much .)
My feelings exactly.
.) Post by: Monkeyleg on October 02, 2008, 06:30:19 PM
The biggest rap on her has been that she lacks foreign policy experience. So it was to her favor when she asked the moderator if she could return to the subject of Afghanistan again for a moment.
She also used humor and charm to finally counter Biden's constant attempts to link McCain and Bush.
Much better than expected, and probably as good as any vice presidential debates I've seen in recent years.
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 02, 2008, 06:36:43 PM
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/\ WE'RE DOOOMDED!! /\
Ronny, man, you've been all kinds of "harbinger of doom."
I keep expecting you to say "we're all gonna DIE!"
Ronny, man, you've been all kinds of "harbinger of doom."
I keep expecting you to say "we're all gonna DIE!"
"That's great. That's just f****** great, man! Now what the f*** are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty s*** now man! Game's over man, game's f****** over! What the f*** are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do? "
Hmmm... there IS a slight resemblance there. Anyone got a 10mm pulse rifle?
Post by: don on October 02, 2008, 06:43:29 PM
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/\ WE'RE DOOOMDED!! /\
Ronny, man, you've been all kinds of "harbinger of doom."
I keep expecting you to say "we're all gonna DIE!"
Ronny, man, you've been all kinds of "harbinger of doom."
I keep expecting you to say "we're all gonna DIE!"
"That's great. That's just f****** great, man! Now what the f*** are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty s*** now man! Game's over man, game's f****** over! What the f*** are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do? "
Hmmm... there IS a slight resemblance there. Anyone got a 10mm pulse rifle?
Post by: ArfinGreebly on October 02, 2008, 06:45:58 PM
Resemblance? What resemblance??
Can't you see creature in the top photo isn't wearing lipstick??
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 02, 2008, 06:47:11 PM
I was commenting on the overdramatization by Ronnie that "teh libz is gunna rulez furever OH TEH NOES!" and adding a little comedic relief.
See? ugly spooky aliens = comedy.
Sheesh, I thought it was intuitive.
Post by: ArfinGreebly on October 02, 2008, 06:50:03 PM
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Dude, that's Pelosi, not Palin.
Gag.
Sorry. I wasn't paying attention.
Still, with a little lipstick . . .
Post by: ronnyreagan on October 02, 2008, 06:52:13 PM
overdramatization by Ronnie that "teh libz is gunna rulez furever OH TEH NOES!"
Hey now, in the "What is our worst case scenario in this election?" topic I'm arguing the exact opposite of this - things won't be that bad.
Don't peg me for too much of a pessimist.
Post by: wquay on October 02, 2008, 07:06:28 PM
Post by: GigaBuist on October 02, 2008, 07:40:21 PM
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I thought Palin did extremely well tonight.
No way. If you transcribed her answers they'd look like a post from cassandra and sara's daddy.
Munging 8 sentences together with conjunctions makes it very hard to follow. She sounded like a kid hopped on Red Bull for the first hour of the debate. I couldn't stand to watch any more if it after that.
Half the time she threw out Obama's voting record Biden was able to retort that McCain voted the same way. That's one way to drive home the "Maverick" point: Remind folks that the Republican candidate votes like a Democrat half the time.
This election is a joke.
Post by: agricola on October 02, 2008, 07:53:55 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/03/uselections2008.sarahpalin
Post by: don on October 02, 2008, 07:55:53 PM
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I thought Palin did extremely well tonight.
No way. If you transcribed her answers they'd look like a post from cassandra and sara's daddy.
Munging 8 sentences together with conjunctions makes it very hard to follow. She sounded like a kid hopped on Red Bull for the first hour of the debate. I couldn't stand to watch any more if it after that.
Half the time she threw out Obama's voting record Biden was able to retort that McCain voted the same way. That's one way to drive home the "Maverick" point: Remind folks that the Republican candidate votes like a Democrat half the time.
This election is a joke.
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 02, 2008, 08:56:14 PM
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Half the time she threw out Obama's voting record Biden was able to retort that McCain voted the same way. That's one way to drive home the "Maverick" point: Remind folks that the Republican candidate votes like a Democrat half the time.
Except that Biden was lying. So far one columnist found 14 flat out lies in Biden's attacks on McCain.
Palin didn't just exceed expectations. She did well connecting with groups that McCain needs, such as white blue collar mothers.
Are you right, or am I right? The answer will be in the polls over the next couple of days.
Post by: Balog on October 02, 2008, 09:11:32 PM
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I thought Palin did extremely well tonight.
No way. If you transcribed her answers they'd look like a post from cassandra and sara's daddy.
Oh, burn!
Post by: longeyes on October 02, 2008, 09:47:10 PM
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...
BIDEN
30% 67,555
PALIN
69% 157,119
NEITHER
2% 3,864
Total Votes: 228,538
Post by: longeyes on October 02, 2008, 09:58:01 PM
He started out by trying to blame the sub-prime mess on Bush and the Republicans, which is absurd, and he went downhill from there. If we had term limits this guy would be running a failing Ford dealership in Wilmington.
Post by: RocketMan on October 03, 2008, 12:16:01 AM
Post by: Leatherneck on October 03, 2008, 01:51:18 AM
TC
Post by: wacki on October 03, 2008, 02:30:53 AM
I was very impressed with Palin. I'm still not supporting McCain/Palin, but she looked A HECK of a lot better than she did for the Couric interviews.
So you are supporting Obama? Any vote other than McCain this election is a vote for Obama.
Post by: Intune on October 03, 2008, 03:00:41 AM
One mistake that is gonna show up on Youtube is when Joe was talking about (exact quote) "Others talk about my excessive passion. I'm not going to change. I have 35 years in public office. People can judge who I am. I haven't changed in that time...."
HOLY COW JOE! Change is the platform mantra. Use your brain man! He finally caught himself but he didn't do Him any favors.
That lady that was at the other podium did ok but she's not going to stop our wealth redistribution project.
Post by: HankB on October 03, 2008, 03:25:32 AM
It's a pity Palin didn't come out against the carbon cap (which is part and parcel of a scam to hijack energy dollars) but given that her running mate has partaken of the global warming/climate change Kool-Aid, she probably didn't have much choice.
Post by: The Annoyed Man on October 03, 2008, 03:32:58 AM
I was very impressed with Palin. I'm still not supporting McCain/Palin, but she looked A HECK of a lot better than she did for the Couric interviews.
So you are supporting Obama? Any vote other than McCain this election is a vote for Obama.
The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.
Post by: longeyes on October 03, 2008, 05:42:50 AM
The real problem for the GOP isn't Palin, it's McCain, who has shown himself unable to really be a maverick by NOT being "bi-partisan" when the right thing is to oppose the bail-out and everything it contains and implies. McCain fancies himself a high-minded team player and, unfortunately, the "team" that runs Washington D.C. is a gang of bandits, idlers, and fools.
Post by: Manedwolf on October 03, 2008, 05:45:20 AM
I was very impressed with Palin. I'm still not supporting McCain/Palin, but she looked A HECK of a lot better than she did for the Couric interviews.
So you are supporting Obama? Any vote other than McCain this election is a vote for Obama.
The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.
No, because it's the truth.
Say the total amount of voters was 100.
Obama: 50
McCain: 47
Third Party: 3
Guess who is now in the oval office, thanks to the third party votes?
Post by: longeyes on October 03, 2008, 06:40:57 AM
We, the People who should have known better, have permitted another America to grow up inside the nation we once knew. This Other America has now become not just a problem but dominant. We are being controlled by a parasitic host and we refuse to come to grips with what this means. If that sounds paranoid just wait for an Obama Presidency. I have recommended radical surgery in the past; either we detach from the disease or we will die too. Sorry if that doesn't hew to any party line. I look at the culture and the demographic trends and I try to be a realist. We need to act while there are still enough of us left to save The Vision.
Post by: The Annoyed Man on October 03, 2008, 07:10:06 AM
I was very impressed with Palin. I'm still not supporting McCain/Palin, but she looked A HECK of a lot better than she did for the Couric interviews.
So you are supporting Obama? Any vote other than McCain this election is a vote for Obama.
The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.
No, because it's the truth.
Say the total amount of voters was 100.
Obama: 50
McCain: 47
Third Party: 3
Guess who is now in the oval office, thanks to the third party votes?
Seems to me like 47 people voted wrong.
make that, 97.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 03, 2008, 08:17:59 AM
It would be hard for anyone to go up against Joe Biden in a debate--dislike him I do, but he knows his subjects. But why, WHY, does she have to say NUKULAR
Are we still talking about that word? Honestly, who cares? How many people even notice the mispronunciation without having it pointed out? I sure don't. And most mispronunciations drive me nuts.
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on October 03, 2008, 08:57:23 AM
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Half the time she threw out Obama's voting record Biden was able to retort that McCain voted the same way. That's one way to drive home the "Maverick" point: Remind folks that the Republican candidate votes like a Democrat half the time.
Except that Biden was lying. So far one columnist found 14 flat out lies in Biden's attacks on McCain.
Palin didn't just exceed expectations. She did well connecting with groups that McCain needs, such as white blue collar mothers.
Are you right, or am I right? The answer will be in the polls over the next couple of days.
Post by: longeyes on October 03, 2008, 09:19:39 AM
One likes hockey; the other likes soccer.
Guess who is going to prevail in the long term.
Post by: slingshot on October 03, 2008, 09:19:56 AM
Post by: MicroBalrog on October 03, 2008, 09:27:24 AM
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Guess who is now in the oval office, thanks to the third party votes?
Technically, he's in the oval office thanks to the 50 OBama votes.
Post by: agricola on October 03, 2008, 09:33:19 AM
Whether any of it matters is another question of course.