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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2008, 07:10:33 PM »
What everyone has forgotten is that there were never supposed to be political parties in the first place.

Pshaw.  Not exactly a deep, dark secret. 

And political parties are inevitable.


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Gee, imagine that.  John McCain taking a liberal position
How is personal accountability a liberal position? 

Where does the personal accountability come in? 
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2008, 07:15:26 PM »
Where does the personal accountability come in? 
McCain's statement: "Greedy people have destroyed us, my precious!"

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2008, 07:18:00 PM »
This is fistful not following you.   smiley  You mean McCain is greedy? 
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2008, 07:24:37 PM »
This is fistful not following you.   smiley
Fine. I don't need any stalkers.  grin

Maybe I should've said 'responsibility' instead of 'accountability.' He's blaming [rich, white?] people, instead of 'high gas prices', which translates to that which I said already - I think.

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2008, 08:45:31 AM »
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It is not time to criticize McCain.

So when is it time to criticize McCain?
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2008, 10:15:25 AM »
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It is not time to criticize McCain.

So when is it time to criticize McCain?

You have to make time, there is a lot to criticize.
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2008, 04:47:28 PM »
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It is not time to criticize McCain.

So when is it time to criticize McCain?

You have to make time, there is a lot to criticize.

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2008, 04:57:49 PM »
So when is it time to criticize McCain?   


Criticizing McCain is, like, sooo Bush era.  Please.   rolleyes
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2008, 05:11:32 AM »
So when is it time to criticize McCain?   


Criticizing McCain is, like, sooo Bush era.  Please.   rolleyes

McCain is Bush; they're both warmongering, borrow and spend big government authoritarians.  A McCain presidency would be no different than a third Bush term.

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2008, 05:25:34 AM »
A McCain presidency would be no different than a third Bush term.

Not my preferred outcome, but there are worse alternatives.
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2008, 05:40:14 AM »
So when is it time to criticize McCain?   


Criticizing McCain is, like, sooo Bush era.  Please.   rolleyes

McCain is Bush; they're both warmongering, borrow and spend big government authoritarians.  A McCain presidency would be no different than a third Bush term.

And your viable alternative is?

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2008, 06:08:04 AM »
So when is it time to criticize McCain?   


Criticizing McCain is, like, sooo Bush era.  Please.   rolleyes

McCain is Bush; they're both warmongering, borrow and spend big government authoritarians.  A McCain presidency would be no different than a third Bush term.
McCain is actually a pretty strict deficit hawk.  In fact, he's probably the least likely of any current politician to borrow and spend.  I'm not trying to defend McCain, but if you're gonna attack the man you should at least try to know what you're talking about.

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2008, 01:03:33 PM »
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McCain is actually a pretty strict deficit hawk.  In fact, he's probably the least likely of any current politician to borrow and spend.  I'm not trying to defend McCain, but if you're gonna attack the man you should at least try to know what you're talking about.

He intends to continue the Iraq occupation, plus engage us in other wars.  And you think that won't add to the deficit/national debt.....................how?

Maybe you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, HTG.

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2008, 01:14:59 PM »
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And your viable alternative is?

MY alternative is to send the three branches of government home for four years.  Let the underlying bureaucracies continue to operate.  Why the hell do we need a full time President/Congress/Supreme Court anyway?

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2008, 01:37:59 PM »
He asked for a VIABLE alternative.  As in, something that we might be able to accomplish.

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Criticizing McCain is, like, sooo Bush era.  Please.   rolleyes 

McCain is Bush; 

Whatever the similarity, it's kind of a GREAT BIG GLARING FACT that Bush and McCain fought over the nomination in 2000, and that Bush's supporters (me included) were highly critical of McCain for the next several years.  That is why I described McCain-bashing as "Bush era."

Do you think this irony escapes those of us who are preparing to vote for McCain this year? 
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2008, 01:48:14 PM »
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Whatever the similarity, it's kind of a GREAT BIG GLARING FACT that Bush and McCain fought over the nomination in 2000, and that Bush's supporters (me included) were highly critical of McCain for the next several years.  That is why I described McCain-bashing as "Bush era."

Do you think this irony escapes those of us who are preparing to vote for McCain this year?

They didn't 'fight' over policy issues, they fought over who was going to win the popularity contest and get the nomination.  Now you claim you  were 'highly critical' of McCain, yet you're 'preparing to vote for McCain'. 

Proof positive you and your bedfellows are motivated solely by what you're 'against'.  You're motivated solely by fear and negativity, fistful. 

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2008, 02:44:27 PM »
"Proof positive you and your bedfellows are motivated solely by what you're 'against'.  You're motivated solely by fear and negativity, fistful.  "

the irony of this bleat sets a new benchmark
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2008, 02:54:10 PM »
I was more impressed by how completely it failed to engage my comments.  And failed to relate to his previous comments.  And how perfectly representative it is of Paddy.  When challenged, he just takes off on some rabbit trail going in a different direction. 
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2008, 03:50:04 PM »
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I was more impressed by how completely it failed to engage my comments.  And failed to relate to his previous comments.

Oh, your comments were engaged all right.  You just don't like the obvious result; that you're willing to support the object of your criticism.  Which makes you at best an equivocator, and at worst a hypocrite.

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2008, 04:21:16 PM »
"Which makes you at best an equivocator, and at worst a hypocrite. "

BRAVO!!!  just when i thought a benchmark had been set you prove me wrong and outdo yourself! impressive!! rolleyes
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2008, 06:15:12 PM »
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McCain is actually a pretty strict deficit hawk.  In fact, he's probably the least likely of any current politician to borrow and spend.  I'm not trying to defend McCain, but if you're gonna attack the man you should at least try to know what you're talking about.

He intends to continue the Iraq occupation, plus engage us in other wars.  And you think that won't add to the deficit/national debt.....................how?

Maybe you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about, HTG.

And Hillbama intend to tax the everloving hell out of anyone that makes a decent living, and institute programs that cost more than the Iraq war to add to the deficit/national debt. 
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2008, 06:28:40 PM »
When faced with a mediocrity, don't make the mistake of thinking, "Whoever replaces him will have to be better."

Case in point:
Ford / Carter
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2008, 06:36:33 PM »
Oh, your comments were engaged all right.  You just don't like the obvious result; that you're willing to support the object of your criticism.  Which makes you at best an equivocator, and at worst a hypocrite.


Well, let's draw you a pitcher, so's you can understand. 

1.  fistful likes tiny government, freedom of speech, the nuclear option in judicial nominations of originalist judges, border control, gun freedom, and water-boarding.

2.  McCain is in some degree hostile to all of those things.

4.  fistful is voting for McCain

Paddy:  "But fistful, why are you voting for someone you don't completely agree with?"  Huh?

fistful:  "Because of number three.  I'm not sure how you could fail to know about number three.  Maybe only adults know about number three."  Huh?

3.  McCain is the alternative to Democratic control of the White House, which is even more hostile to that which fistful believes.

 

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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2008, 08:57:09 PM »
Wait, is this the same McCain of the McCainFeingold Act? People are wanting to VOTE for this monster?  shocked
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Re: McCain Blames 'Greed' for Recession
« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2008, 05:53:48 AM »
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And Hillbama intend to tax the everloving hell out of anyone that makes a decent living, and institute programs that cost more than the Iraq war to add to the deficit/national debt.

Hillbama are both disasters waiting to happen.  That doesn't make McCain any better and is damn sure no reason to support him.  All three are rejects.  You want to support him because he has an 'R' after his name, go right ahead.  R's don't represent the American people any more than D's IMO.