Octuplet Mom Receiving Death Threats

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090213/D96AC1PO1.html

Feb 12, 7:33 PM (ET)

By SHAYA TAYEFE MOHAJER
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Police said Thursday they will investigate death threats against octuplet mom Nadya Suleman and advise her publicist on how to handle a torrent of other nasty messages that have flooded his office.

Word that the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother is receiving public assistance to care for the 14 children she conceived through in vitro fertilization has stoked furor among many people.

Police Lt. John Romero said officers were meeting with Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney about the flood of angry phone calls and e-mail messages against Suleman, her children and Furtney.

"We are aware of the media accounts of the threats, and that they are being sent to the West Los Angeles detectives for appropriate action," Romero said.

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Furtney said 500 new e-mails were received early Thursday.

"We're talking to the Los Angeles Police Department to get their best advice as to how to regard these messages," Furtney said as the phone in his office rang constantly.

He is also consulting with a security professional to get advice on any precautions that might need to be taken.

Suleman is living in an undisclosed location and spends time with all her kids every day, Furtney said. The octuplets are expected to remain in the hospital for several more weeks.

Not all the calls have been angry. One family from the Midwest has invited Suleman and her brood to live on their farm, Furtney said.

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"One thing that keeps me from jumping out the window is that we've heard from many people offering some kind of support: clothing, food, financial or other help," Furtney said.

Suleman has been supporting her six other children with $490 a month in food stamps and receives Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters that could total $2,379 a month.

She has estimated her in vitro fertilization procedures have cost $100,000.

Suleman has said she saved for the treatments by working double shifts and also used money from a disability award exceeding $165,000 that she received after an on-the-job back injury.

The benefits were discontinued last year.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.


This is a very strange story. She spends six figures on IVF to have octuplets.  :|
I don't much care how many kids people have, but I'd think that arranging to have eight at once is... a touch odd, not to mention painful.

[jackdanson]

This is a very strange story. She spends six figures on IVF to have octuplets. 
I don't much care how many kids people have, but I'd think that arranging to have eight at once is... a touch odd, not to mention painful.

She obviously has a mental health disorder.  My only hope is she gets a reality TV show or a book deal so she doesn't have to live off of the rest of us forever.  In the long run it may be better that she had 8 than say 3 or 4... 3 or 4 won't land you a book deal.

[Manedwolf]

It was mental illness subsidized by the state, pretty much.

[Manedwolf]

She obviously has a mental health disorder.  My only hope is she gets a reality TV show or a book deal so she doesn't have to live off of the rest of us forever.  In the long run it may be better that she had 8 than say 3 or 4... 3 or 4 won't land you a book deal.

So we get dozens of copycats?

[Jamisjockey]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090213/D96AC1PO1.html

Feb 12, 7:33 PM (ET)

By SHAYA TAYEFE MOHAJER
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Police said Thursday they will investigate death threats against octuplet mom Nadya Suleman and advise her publicist on how to handle a torrent of other nasty messages that have flooded his office.

She was dying for attention....now she's getting plenty.

[Gewehr98]

She doesn't need a death threat.

She's pretty much digging herself (and her mother and previous children) a hole in the ground, all by herself.

Google what her mother has to say about the whole thing.  Not a good situation, by any means.

[MicroBalrog]

I'm sorry, I don't understand. She may not be a good person, but death threats? These people are insane.

[Jamisjockey]

She doesn't need a death threat.

She's pretty much digging herself (and her mother and previous children) a hole in the ground, all by herself.

Google what her mother has to say about the whole thing.  Not a good situation, by any means.

No, but the irony is apparent.  She is so desperate for attention, and now she's getting some very, very negative attention.

[Gewehr98]

Maybe she's angling for her own "John & Kate Plus 8" series?   

[Balog]

Maybe she's angling for her own "John & Kate Plus 8" series?   

Whatever you think of the show's about huge families, they aren't on welfare. Bit of a difference.


Even tho this women is useless.... death threats? The losers picking on each other.

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

I'm sorry, I don't understand. She may not be a good person, but death threats? These people are insane.

There's a certain segment of this population who make death threats as a knee-jerk reaction.
"I'll blow your f'ing head off if you post another Zardoz picture!"

[Brad Johnson]

She's unemployed and on welfare ... and she has a publicist.

Good.  Friggin'.  Grief.

Brad

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

She's unemployed and on welfare ... and she has a publicist.

And a nanny, as per the link.

[AZRedhawk44]

"We are aware of the media accounts of the threats, and that they are being sent to the West Los Angeles detectives for appropriate action," Romero said.

I'm hoping "appropriate action" involves removing her kids from her custody, packing her up and dropping her off somewhere dark and scary and alone.

How on earth does a social parasite get fertility treatments?  Argh.

(I don't want her "whacked," but she isn't going to be able to provide a healthy home environment for 14 kids.  The whole thing sucks, but it will suck more if she keeps the kids and dicks around with welfare than if the kids are taken and put up for adoption or the foster system.)

[HankB]

Death threats are out of bounds - they're wrong on many levels.

But I'd have a hard time arguing against women on welfare being required to have contraceptive implants as a condition of receiving welfare.

And call me cold-hearted . . . but I feel no obligation to care for kids that aren't part of my family.

[seeker_two]

Suleman has said she saved for the treatments by working double shifts and also used money from a disability award exceeding $165,000 that she received after an on-the-job back injury.

So, the physician who did the IVF implanted all those embryos into a woman who already had a disabling back injury?....sounds like someone should be gunning for his medical license..... 

There's a certain segment of this population who make death threats as a knee-jerk reaction.
"I'll blow your f'ing head off if you post another Zardoz picture!"

Yeah....but Zardoz pics are justifiable for use of deadly force in most states.... 

[Lee]

"We the People" should sue the fertility Doctor for the bill. Since when isn't having the ability to pay, provide, or parent, a factor in this undertaking?  My wife and I went though IVF 13 years ago...and believe me, they wanted to know who was paying, and IIRC, there was also a little counseling involved in regard to the procedure and possible multiple births.  We were in our late thirties, gainfully employed, and had insurance which covered part of it.  We had twins, and it was totally exhausting for months.  Multiples aren't a linear 2x, 3x or 8X the work...they're exponential.  With eight, a person would barely finish one round of feeding and diapering before the next cycle would start. Every so-called professional involved in this should help pay ...and feed and diaper babies.

[Gewehr98]

Whatever you think of the show's about huge families, they aren't on welfare. Bit of a difference.

You missed my point. Entirely.  As in not even in the damned ballpark.

John & Kate +8 have a huge new house, a big Dodge van, attending staff, and all sorts of goods and services they wouldn't have were there no television show about their life.  She's been on record demanding an extension to her normal one-year Medicaid payments, and the Pennsylvania Governor has opened up a Tuition Account for them.  Nice work if you can get it.

My wife thinks they'd better be saving his Pennsylvania Governor's Office (?!) income, and her book income, because when the producers lose interest in them, guess what...

Our unemployed mother of octuplets probably sees that as a shining beacon of hope, hence a publicist, etc. She's full of, well, hope.

Like my grandfather said, you can crap in one hand, and wish in another, and see which one fills up soonest.

In the meantime, my wife and I are thinking about moving to Pennsylvania, taking fertility drugs, and asking the governor there to open up a college tuition account for our kids...

And our obsessive-compulsive friend Kate?  She'd better lighten up on how she treats John, or she'll find herself raising those 8 kids by herself.  I watch the show and feel bad for the guy. 

[KD5NRH]

More to the point:

Suleman has said she saved for the treatments by working double shifts

Six kids and she still had time to work six figures worth of double shifts?  Doesn't sound like she gives a damn about being a mother to any of them.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

I'm sorry, I don't understand. She may not be a good person, but death threats? These people are insane.

Indeed.  She may be weird, and she may even be receiving public money.  But death threats?  No. 

All this vitriol against the woman (and even her doctor) are way off base.  At worst, she's no different than any of the other baby factory county queens out there.  We leave all of them alone, more or less.  There's nothing different about this woman, except that she's weird and different.

[Racehorse]

So, the physician who did the IVF implanted all those embryos into a woman who already had a disabling back injury?....sounds like someone should be gunning for his medical license..... 

"We the People" should sue the fertility Doctor for the bill. Since when isn't having the ability to pay, provide, or parent, a factor in this undertaking?  My wife and I went though IVF 13 years ago...and believe me, they wanted to know who was paying, and IIRC, there was also a little counseling involved in regard to the procedure and possible multiple births.  We were in our late thirties, gainfully employed, and had insurance which covered part of it.  We had twins, and it was totally exhausting for months.  Multiples aren't a linear 2x, 3x or 8X the work...they're exponential.  With eight, a person would barely finish one round of feeding and diapering before the next cycle would start. Every so-called professional involved in this should help pay ...and feed and diaper babies.

Both of these are exactly right. That's a huge ethical and judgmental lapse by everyone involved, but especially by the doctor. In the fertility medicine world, multiple births are considered an undesirable result. The goal of good fertility specialists is to get a woman pregnant with one baby. It's usually considered irresponsible to try to implant more than 3 or 4 fertilized eggs at a time precisely because of the risk of multiples.

[Perd Hapley]

An octuplet mom?  

I certainly think death threats are justified.  Goodness knows we've got to do something.  We simply can't have these half-human, half-octopus monsters on the loose!  

[Lee]

There's nothing different about this woman, except that she's weird and different.

That's not entirely true.  The estimated hospital costs for the 8 babies is well over a million bucks. That's just for starters, since many of them will likely require ongoing developmental therapy.  I wish her and the babies the best.  But it was very irresponsible of her and the Docs involved.  The babies will suffer as well. No single mom (or a half dozen moms) can take care of 8 babies, and raise 6? other small kids at the same time. 

[KD5NRH]

The goal of good fertility specialists is to get a woman pregnant with one baby. It's usually considered irresponsible to try to implant more than 3 or 4 fertilized eggs at a time precisely because of the risk of multiples.

There's one near here that implanted two, and now the (employed, educated, productive) woman's expecting quads.  Presumably two sets of identical twins.  That should be confusing as heck in a few years.

[K Frame]

I wonder if this is what Hillary had in mind when she said it takes a village to raise a child?

Or in this case, the entire tax proceeds of the most populous state in the nation?