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« on: October 11, 2005, 09:52:37 AM »
OK, so I'm a little slow. Been on dial-up forever and am astounded by the speed of this thing. And pictures! I can actually see them now! On my old dial-up, a 1meg file would take 30 minutes to load; now it's in the blink of an eye!

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2005, 09:54:34 AM »
DSL rocks.  I've had it for about a year now, and couldn't imagine going back to dialup.

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2005, 01:18:59 PM »
Vertizontal just recently promised DSL to our house... but they've mucked around with our lines and angered Mrs. Firethorn to the point where she doesn't want to give them any more business.

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2005, 05:08:27 PM »
Dude, you're not the only one that was late jumping on the bandwagon.  I got mine hooked up about 2 months ago.  It is so cool.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2005, 05:54:20 PM »
I hate you all. There are STILL no broadband options where I live. Being a gamer on 56k is torture.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2005, 06:04:57 PM »
Wait till you surf some porn with it.  You know you want to....
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2005, 06:17:27 PM »
You'll probably spend the first 2 days downloading enormous files while giggling to yourself.

Since I got DSL I started playing online video games- something that's not even worth thinking about with dialup.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 07:37:28 PM »
JamisJockey,
That was the first thing I checked out. MUCH better!

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2005, 08:07:57 PM »
Porn at the speed of light.

Is there anything better in this world?

If there is, I don't want to know about it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2005, 08:25:15 PM »
HEY!!  Quit typing so fast!  I can barely keep up!
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 10:38:17 PM »
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I hate you all. There are STILL no broadband options where I live. Being a gamer on 56k is torture.
Maybe you could get wireless? I can't get DSL or cable out here in The Swamp, but wireless was available. I get 768k up and down. Great for gaming.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2005, 07:03:22 AM »
No go, Sergeant Bob. My options ATM are dial-up and satellite. Satellite wont work for gaming, due to transmission lag time. But, hey, that's the least of worries right now. Computer won't even turn on for some reason. Power supply must be bad AGAIN. Never, ever buy an Alienware.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2005, 07:07:18 AM »
Think DLS is fast?  Try Cable.  

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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2005, 07:12:21 AM »
Go talk to MalH on TFL.

I believe that he has satellite TV and computer. He's in a pretty rural area.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2005, 07:42:47 AM »
Satellite computer internet is pretty limited and only useful if your need for broadband is downloading large files. For web surfing there's a small benefit, and for interactive uses like gaming and voip it's absolutely useless, because of the latency inherent to a satellite system. For the price they charge for it, it's no surprise that there are relatively few people using it.

Best bet for really rural areas, espicially flat rural areas, is to find if there's a company doing fixed wireless internet service, or convince one of the local ISP companies to start providing it.

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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2005, 07:43:58 AM »
I've had a problem with power supplies going boom lately.

In the next few weeks I should be getting upgraded from a 512k to a 2mb service. Should be fun. A friend who is with the same ISP is going from 2mb to 10mb.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2005, 07:57:35 AM »
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Satellite computer internet is pretty limited and only useful if your need for broadband is downloading large files. For web surfing there's a small benefit, and for interactive uses like gaming and voip it's absolutely useless, because of the latency inherent to a satellite system. For the price they charge for it, it's no surprise that there are relatively few people using it.

Best bet for really rural areas, espicially flat rural areas, is to find if there's a company doing fixed wireless internet service, or convince one of the local ISP companies to start providing it.
The latency is definately a killer for gaming, but it's not bad for most other uses.  Compared to DSL, it's slower, but even for web surfing, it's much faster than dialup.  

I evaluated some commercial sat offerings a few years ago for disaster recovery purposes (put a dish, indoor unit, VPN encryptor, router, and a switch on a pallet to be shipped to a site or have the hardware sitting at your most important sites beforehand).  It works fine except for truly latency sensitive apps.  Many of those can be rewritten to deal with the latency (the vpn we used at the time was appropriately modified).  There are other systems to reduce the effect of latency, but they can't solve the speed of light issue.

Unfortunately, these were all commercial offerings targeted to industry and govt.  IIRC, the cheapest price for a single site was several hundred a month for an "always on" connection (meaning it was available 24/7, not necessarily transmitting).

BTW, for those that live out of reach of DSL, have you considered getting a T1 and sharing it with your neighbors via wireless?  I've known people who did this in the pre-broadband days (not using wireless though).  You can stretch the reach of 802.11 with repeaters, larger antennas, etc.  

Or, if you have multiple phone lines, Win2k and WinXP can dial multiple modems and tie them together, doubling your bandwidth.  However, some ISPs won't allow you to log in multiple times, or charge extra when you do.

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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2005, 08:20:14 AM »
I have cable at home. When I visit my folks and use their computer, not only is it dialup, but top speed is around 26K. Pure torture.

 I've looked at sat for them, but they don't use it enough and I'm not up there enough to make the $60-70 min per month worthwhile. I actually saw that DirectTV (their satellite provider) is now advertising partnerships with cable companies for networking and are making their own service an, "if you can't get the cable" secondary option.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2005, 08:21:56 AM »
Likewise, we just got Verizon (boo!  hiss! (see http://www.ncc-1776.com/tle2004/tle265-20040404-07.html), but around here they're the name of the game) ADSL, their $15/mo/first year deal.

You get used to the speed _real_ fast.

I just hope I don't have to call their tech support much.  On the plus side, the individual I spoke with was a native speaker of English.

On the minus side, they couldn't|wouldn't help me at all.  It went something like this:

Me: "What would be the user id and password for my Westel 6100 router.  I need to get in to change the address range it's handing out to match that of my existing in house network.  "admin/password" doesn't work."

Him: "It's not a router."

Me:  "It says it is, right on the label."

Him:  "just a minute."    

Hold music for a bit

Him: "It's a router but for just one computer."

Me, Thinking: "WTF good is that?"

Him: "and I can't help you because you've got a network"

Which I can understand, but my problem wasn't related to my network, but in being able to configure their "router"thing.

-- set up my old Smoothwall dial-on-demand with a second NIC, put it bettween the Westel and the hub, and everything works, and I have my old, safe, sane network back.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2005, 08:23:17 AM »
Verizon is in the beginnings of a "Fiber to the premises" effort.  When they're done, you'll get broadband, telco, and even TV over that fiber.  Dunno if it'll reach into the boonies though.

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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2005, 08:24:34 AM »
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BTW, for those that live out of reach of DSL, have you considered getting a T1 and sharing it with your neighbors via wireless?  I've known people who did this in the pre-broadband days (not using wireless though).  You can stretch the reach of 802.11 with repeaters, larger antennas, etc.  

Or, if you have multiple phone lines, Win2k and WinXP can dial multiple modems and tie them together, doubling your bandwidth.  However, some ISPs won't allow you to log in multiple times, or charge extra when you do.

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Sharing a T1 via wireless is essentiall what a lot of the little "WISP" (wireless isp) startup companies are doing. If you've got a few well-off neighbors this is possible, but a T1 is still going to run you aroudn $500/mo, more if you're really rural. The WISP guys normally make the investment to get equipment up on a radio tower (or water tower, or church steeple etc) so they can offer service to enough people to make a T1 uplink affordable.

Funny you should mention the multilink dial-up. I used to do this back in the pre-dsl days. We had a seperate computer phone line, but at night I'd hijack the family's line as well and get almost as fast performance as my friend with an ISDN line.

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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2005, 08:26:04 AM »
The guy you spoke to is 1. An idiot, and 2. lying.  He can help you (including giving you the login to the device) and the Westell isn't a router (well, ok, it is because it routes between two different IP networks, but it's not a router as we all know them).

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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2005, 08:34:24 AM »
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but a T1 is still going to run you aroudn $500/mo
Ouch.  I thought they would've come down by now.  Last time I priced a link, it was a short haul fractional T1 in a metro area.  IIRC, it was only $200/month or so (price to .gov).

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2005, 02:56:52 AM »
After a pitched battle, Verizon finally capitulated and installed DSL.

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2005, 07:56:29 AM »
52.0 Kbps here.
I wouldn't want to rush into this new fangled technology stuff too fast now or nuttin'. I mean I did put it off as long as I could. Tongue

Now at College, I am clicking along at 10Mbps easy.  I Mean I can't take a sip of soda , or bite of sandwich before the pages, pics and stuff get loaded...on Dial Up I can. Smiley

This includes grabbing a Laptop going anywhere in the bldg or campus, how am I supposed to check out the tight jeans, mini-skirts and stuff with pages loading so fast?

I am still using Floppy's too.  I mean they are inexpensive and all I need is for one document to be on the thing and I can give that floppy away or turn it in if need.  

I go from T1 to Wireless, to 10Mpbs, flashdrives and all sorts of stuff, to dial up to floppy disks.  I was laughed at for having a external floppy for my laptop - until someone needed to re-boot thier system and the setting were for using Floppy,and they did not have a FDD.

Ain't USB great?  Plugged that puppy in a USB, got the system booted, and changed setting to where would boot from disk or Flashdrive. Person bought a external FDD, just in case.

Dial up works for me because when I travel, all I need is a phone jack. My ISP I have accessed from all over, many states, come in real handy.

Some day I will go faster...until then, I mangage.

Hey, gotta buddy the best he can get is 32.0 Kpbs, he thinks my dial up is fast!