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Re: The People of WalMart have been replaced ...
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2011, 12:19:00 PM »
Sorry Ian, but what makes you think we live under capitalism?  The entire system has been corrupted into an artificial crony-capitalist state.  The " 99%" need to occupy congress and the WH and ask them why they allow the laws to be written in the fashion they are, why regulations are choking the healthcare system, and why unions are allowed to control industries.  No sir, you are living under a thugocracy.
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Re: The People of WalMart have been replaced ...
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2011, 10:43:32 PM »
Evidence of what? That Rush is yet another attack dog? I doubt that really needs evidencing further. .

Evidence of what? That left-wingers hate Jews? I doubt that really needs evidencing further...

You could have a career in radio, Iain.
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Re: The People of WalMart have been replaced ...
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2011, 12:27:18 AM »
So you're saying that Hannity does support protests, except when the protestors are "heavily influence/infiltrated by socialists and other George Soros aspirants who are full-tilt socialists who hate capitalism."

That's exactly what I got from the video.


Stop the conflation game Iain.  Hannity is a conservative and supports conservative causes.  The "occupy Wallstreet" crowd are a bunch of libtards. He's not going to be supporting libtards. 
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Re: The People of WalMart have been replaced ...
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2011, 12:54:31 AM »
No, it wouldn't surprise me a tiny bit. That Rush would smear with anything he can imagine.

edit - as it clearly refers to being in the 'poorest' 99%. I assume that the original blog will not highlight all the 99%'ers who are putting up pictures - http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/ There's the rest of them. Yes, some of them are idiots, some of them are not:


Evidence of what? That left-wingers hate Jews? I doubt that really needs evidencing further...

You could have a career in radio, Iain.

I've seen plenty of anti-semetic video from the OWS folks.  They are not shy about it at all. 

OTOH, the "racism" charges against the TEA Party had to be manufactured.  The two most prominent being the claims of racial language as black members of Congress walked to the Congressional bldg and the charges of white, armed racism against BHO (in AZ, IIRC)...which were undermined by hte fact that the guy with the AR15 was black (a fact which was deliberately cut from the video).
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Re: The People of WalMart have been replaced ...
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2011, 04:16:46 AM »
fistful - the claim that the 99% refers to those who are not Jews needs some support. The claim that the left hates Jews needs a massive amount of support. I know that's not the case on here. But it's the case elsewhere.

On here any evidence of racism amongst a tiny minority of tea partiers "had to be manufactured", but lefties are all anti-semites.
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Re: The People of WalMart have been replaced ...
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2011, 10:19:27 AM »
fistful - the claim that the 99% refers to those who are not Jews needs some support. The claim that the left hates Jews needs a massive amount of support. I know that's not the case on here. But it's the case elsewhere.

OK. I just liked how you responded to "Rush Limbaugh said something critical of the Flea Party," by implying that it was an unfounded accusation. And apparently without looking into what Rush said, or any sources he may have been citing. A little ironic, is all.
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« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2011, 11:24:10 AM »
Only I did go looking, and found a far more reasonable source for the 99% name. Immediate scepticism of 'Beck with a chalkboard' thinking is quite justifiable. I've listened to the segment, including his reference to Kanye West's visit as a "perp walk". Note that he doesn't mention the Yom Kippur service that took place, without a spontaneous pogrom going down.

By the way, I do agree with him that movement may turn out to be difficult to control if the Democrats do take the "tiger by the tail". But not because of antisemitism.
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2011, 11:35:57 AM »


My generation is working long hours to pay for mortgages on homes bought at a time of ludicrous house prices. The next load of kids are going to struggle to get jobs to work long hours at. I don't love capitalism, it's the worst system going, until you consider all the others. I'm not going to get my panties in a wad about a group of people who are not having the best time of it, these so-called "freedom haters" with their anti-semitic roots.

Sorry, Iain.  "Rights" include the right to fail.

And every freakin' idiot that bought a house when they were blatantly over-inflated in value deserves exactly what they got.

I "wanted" a house 6 years ago, too.

But I didn't get one just because I wanted one.  I absolutely hate/loathe/abhor every single wretched whinging whiner that brings this up as some sort of defense of leftism.

No one has a "right" to property ownership.  It's earned through hard work and INTELLIGENCE, and being able to see the forest through the trees.
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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2011, 11:49:47 AM »
Here the housing market has crashed, somewhat. But few can get a mortgage, because the banks the tax payer bailed out aren't making loans, despite "quantative easing". The private rental market is through the roof. Houses that are being sold are being sold to landlords, the govt is projecting the lowest level of private home ownership in 25 years, in fact since Thatcher instituted the 'right to buy' and a large number of council houses were sold. Most of my friends who own homes had significant financial help.

Hardly surprising that people don't like that sort of state of affairs. As I say, my panties aren't in a wad about this, or about a group of people who aren't really going to get a lot achieved but whine publicly about it. Most of them aren't dreadful awful leftists, they're just people trying to get by, who feel utterly screwed over by situations like the one detailed above. We all know the "dream", but reality bites. Not sure why anyone would get so irate about them.
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Re: The People of WalMart have been replaced ...
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2011, 12:00:57 PM »
OccupyChicago protester ays he is being paid $22/hour to whine.

http://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-protester-getting-paid-to-protest-2011-10

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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2011, 12:20:20 PM »
fistful - the claim that the 99% refers to those who are not Jews needs some support. The claim that the left hates Jews needs a massive amount of support. I know that's not the case on here. But it's the case elsewhere.

On here any evidence of racism amongst a tiny minority of tea partiers "had to be manufactured", but lefties are all anti-semites.

I did not write they all were, but that those that were were not shy about being videoed whilst in mid-judenrein harangue.  Their fellow lefties did not try to quash them or argue that they were wrong, unlike the TEA Partiers who would bum rush fools/tools who broke out racist signs. 

"Qui tacet consentit," when in those circumstances. 

The two most prominent "TEA Party is racist" stories did happen to be manufactured. 
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« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2011, 01:43:40 PM »
Only I did go looking, and found a far more reasonable source for the 99% name. Immediate scepticism of 'Beck with a chalkboard' thinking is quite justifiable. I've listened to the segment, including his reference to Kanye West's visit as a "perp walk". Note that he doesn't mention the Yom Kippur service that took place, without a spontaneous pogrom going down.

By the way, I do agree with him that movement may turn out to be difficult to control if the Democrats do take the "tiger by the tail". But not because of antisemitism.

OK, I had to look up the transcript and get back to you. I was listening that day, but I didn't hear it all.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/11/the_wall_street_protests_are_full_of_ignorance_hypocrisy_anti_semitism

And I was unaware of Glen Beck's chalkboard, since I can't see it on my radio. But anyway, I now understand that it's OK for you to speculate that Rush is probably doing something bad, even if you haven't confirmed it yet; but Rush is not allowed to do the same thing.

And I still don't see how Rush can be singled out for "smearing" the OWS bozos by discussing their possible anti-Semitism, unless you're going to come down equally hard on those rabid, Glenn Beck-worshipping right-wingers over at the Huffington Post.  ;/
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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2011, 07:38:52 PM »
Under your skin so much you didn't read the whole Huffpo article:

"To those who are taking the isolated anti-Semitic incidents, treating them as representative of the entire movement and inflating them, we ask: Why? Are you truly appalled at the few hateful protestors among tens of thousands, or are you hoping to discredit a peaceful protest because you disagree with its goals?"

Which is precisely what Rush was up to. Discussing anti-semitism amongst a few of them is one thing, speculating that they call themselves the 99% for an entirely different reason than the one they state, and a for reason that attempts to make it an anti-semitic movement - that's Beck with a chalkboard stuff.

And then there's this - http://forward.com/blogs/forward-thinking/144650/ - a suggestion that at least one of the guys hanging around with 'zionist' signs has been at it for some time. And this - http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/10/18/3089883/occupiers-fight-anti-semitism-at-movements-fringe an interesting article, which might well put the lie to claims in the post above yours (which you know, would shock me totally)
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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2011, 07:57:41 PM »
Under your skin so much you didn't read the whole Huffpo article.

Like I would ever read a whole Huffpo article.  :lol:

Yeah, well, if you read the whole transcript I linked to earlier, Rush was talking about a group called Adbusters that he says is "involved" with Occupy Wall Street, and he points out some stuff they've said about Jews. I don't know if he even said anything about any of those "isolated incidents."

But that's not really the point. I don't know if Rush was right to say what he said. I don't think I really have time to look into any more than this. The point is, you responded to a "smear" with your own smear, so...

That's about it.
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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2011, 08:22:54 PM »
Don't like him, don't like his ilk on all sides, don't like the level of discourse in general and blame them for that to an extent. Reading the transcripts, and transcripts of other segments on the issue leaves me disliking it all even more. He's made blanket statements that a core of anti-semites are running the show. Anyway, I'd like to be on good terms with you, so yeah I smeared him a bit. It made me feel good.
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« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2011, 03:55:32 PM »
I ain't mad at ya. He bothers me sometimes, too. It bothers me a little bit that you seem to give OWS the benefit of the doubt, more than Limbaugh.
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