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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 04:26:08 PM »
Ah. There's the root of the issue, then. Corrupt gov't. Shame, really, that after all that work, money, and life went into the "WAR ON TERROR!" we still have to deal with a PITA gov't.
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2010, 04:32:50 PM »

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2010, 04:54:33 PM »
And how would you know it actually was that Surgeon/M.D.? Because the Pakistani government told you it was?

Hey, we accepted the PRC's word for the ages of their gymnastics team, and that went well, didn't it?  No one exploded during the floor exercises & such.

I think we should always accept the pronouncements of corrupt and/or despotic regimes at face value.  To do otherwise is just wrong.  And racist.
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2010, 04:58:36 PM »
Even that one surgeon/M.D.?

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2010, 06:06:52 PM »
Hey!  Not to worry.  The boot that Obama has on the neck of BP will soon be on the necks of all Overseas Unrully Males Of A Certain Radical Religious Persuasion And Of A Certain Color That We Wish Wouldn't Always Get The Blame And We Hoped They'd Change Into Fat White Male Protestant Tea Baggers. [popcorn]
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2010, 07:28:42 PM »
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2010, 07:52:25 PM »
Anyone seen a recent photo of this guy?  All the news sites seem to be using his facebook page...
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2010, 09:34:59 PM »
If this guy had any training in Pakistan I'm guessing it was metered out by Wile al-Quyote.

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2010, 09:53:20 PM »
If this guy had any training in Pakistan I'm guessing it was metered out by Wile al-Quyote.

Now that's a weird part of this whole thing. The splodey-folk in Pakistan know how to do a lot better than some fireworks, a few propane tanks and some bags of the wrong fertilizer.

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2010, 09:54:15 PM »
Anyone seen a recent photo of this guy?  All the news sites seem to be using his facebook page...
google image search comes up with this [tinfoil],,,but i think he's to old. [popcorn]

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2010, 10:13:06 PM »
google image search comes up with this [tinfoil],,,but i think he's to old. [popcorn]


Real happy looking bunch, eh?
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2010, 11:50:15 PM »
Anyone seen a recent photo of this guy?  All the news sites seem to be using his facebook page...

I thought he looks like Nick.....Say has anyone heard from Nick recently ??   :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: =D =D =D
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2010, 01:14:24 AM »
Don't you think that sensible accomplices would have pointed out: "Hey, Faisal, this is the wrong brand of fertilizer" or "Don't you think we should build a test device before we try and, you know, blow up Times Square"?

Maybe he was the Private Pyle of his terrorist training camp. He wants to be a secret agent for Al-Q, but they don't really want to use him, so he tries to prove himself.

Or perhaps we are doing such a fine job breaking up Al-Q, that they have a hard time coordinating anything anymore?  Maybe all their splodey-experts are gettin' Predator'd? 

Maybe he hooked up with some bunch of young Al-Q hotheads, who think Al-Q is being too slow and methodical?  "I wants me my virgins now!" 
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2010, 03:04:36 AM »
Now that's a weird part of this whole thing. The splodey-folk in Pakistan know how to do a lot better than some fireworks, a few propane tanks and some bags of the wrong fertilizer.
I thought so as well when I read the detailed list of contents. "That won't explode". Hell, would it have exploded even if it had been the right kind of fertilizer? I thought you had to add some other stuff to it to make it splodey?
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2010, 05:07:57 AM »
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Maybe he was the Private Pyle of his terrorist training camp. He wants to be a secret agent for Al-Q, but they don't really want to use him, so he tries to prove himself.

This sort of sillyness is more typical for terrorists than anything.

Hamas IIRC lost several terrorist 'engineers' in the suicide-bombing era due to sillyness such as people smoking while mixing up tubfuls of explosive.
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2010, 05:21:55 AM »
This sort of sillyness is more typical for terrorists than anything.

Hamas IIRC lost several terrorist 'engineers' in the suicide-bombing era due to sillyness such as people smoking while mixing up tubfuls of explosive.
You hear that, anti-smoking nazis?! Smoking can be good! :laugh:
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2010, 07:04:34 AM »
Even that one surgeon/M.D.?

Or my coworker who's as much of a southern good ol' boy as any cracker born in the US.  He was bitching about this guy yesterday afternoon.

Then there are my Afhgan, Iranian, and Nigerian coworkers.  Needless to say, the terrorism jokes run rampant around the SOC. :D

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2010, 09:11:27 AM »
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100505/D9FGCQTG0.html

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After authorities pulled Shahzad off the plane, he admitted he was behind the crude Times Square car bomb, officials said. He also claimed to have been trained at a terror camp in Pakistan's lawless tribal region of Waziristan, according to court documents. That raised increased concern that the bombing was an international terror plot.
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2010, 01:26:25 PM »
Hamas IIRC lost several terrorist 'engineers' in the suicide-bombing era due to sillyness such as people smoking while mixing up tubfuls of explosive.


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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2010, 01:43:33 PM »
Mildly interesting, audio of ATC telling the plane carrying the would-be terrorist to return to the gate shortly before takeoff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGKP_mnOONI

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2010, 02:34:44 PM »
Mildly interesting, audio of ATC telling the plane carrying the would-be terrorist to return to the gate shortly before takeoff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGKP_mnOONI

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2010, 11:37:39 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks it's a dumb political move for Napalitano and the others to brag about how successful they were in thwarting the attacker and catching the perp?

This guy was as fail as they come, and he very nearly got away.  Shouldn't that reflect poorly on Napalitano?

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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2010, 12:16:48 AM »
Maybe he was the Private Pyle of his terrorist training camp.

I was thinking more along the lines of Spies Like Us, but without the accidental success.  Makes me wonder where the real ones are.


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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2010, 12:17:21 AM »
Horse shoes. Hand-grenades.
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Re: Times Square bomber picked up trying to leave country
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2010, 08:05:37 AM »
Dude was a mediocrity from the word "go."

Yet, he got his hands on an H1-B visa.




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Thank God the U.S. has student visas and H1B visas for the cream of the world's students,  such as that Times Square would-be bomber:

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    According to immigration officials, Mr. Shahzad arrived in the United States on Jan. 16, 1999, less than a month after he had been granted a student visa, which requires a criminal background check.

    He had previously attended a program in Karachi affiliated with the now-defunct Southeastern University in Washington; a transcript from the spring of 1998, found in the garbage outside the Shelton house, showed that he got D’s in English composition and microeconomics, B’s in Introduction to Accounting and Introduction to Humanities, and a C in statistics.


GPA in Karachi = 2.0 = U.S. student visa!

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    He enrolled at the University of Bridgeport, where he received a bachelor’s degree in computer science and engineering in 2000, followed by a master’s in business administration in 2005.


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    In January 2002 Mr. Shahzad obtained an H1B visa, a coveted status meant for highly skilled workers and good for three years, with a possible extension. Records show that Elizabeth Arden, the cosmetics giant, applied for a visa for Mr. Shahzad; he worked there as a temporary clerk in the accounting department in 2001, through an employment agency called Accountants Inc., according to a timecard found in his trash.



Granted, he tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square, but in return for the H1B visa, Elizabeth Arden got a "highly skilled" "temporary clerk in the accounting department." Sounds like a good deal to me! The economy would collapse if there weren't an endless supply of temporary clerks to keep wages down. As Tom Friedman has tirelessly pointed out, how can we possibly keep ahead of the Chinese unless we let all the rich families in the Islamic world unload their dumbest sons on us?

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