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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: WLJ on January 06, 2023, 09:53:34 AM
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Send in the Clowns
Trump announced he running right?
Well here's John Bolton
John Bolton announces he WILL run for the White House in 2024 against former boss Donald Trump as he blasts the ex-president's 'terminal decline'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11606025/John-Bolton-announces-run-White-House-2024-against-former-boss-Donald-Trump.html
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What in the wide, wide world of sports makes Bolton think he has a chance in hell of winning the nomination? :facepalm:
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What in the wide, wide world of sports makes Bolton think he has a chance in hell of winning the nomination? :facepalm:
He figures considering who's POTUS and VICE-POTUS, anyone has a shot.
And then there's fundraising, which - if one is careful about crossing their T's and dotting their I's - can be personally very lucrative.
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He figures considering who's POTUS and VICE-POTUS, anyone has a shot.
And then there's fundraising, which - if one is careful about crossing their T's and dotting their I's - can be personally very lucrative.
That makes sense. He's in it for personal gain, not actually being elected President.
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He's in it for personal gain, not actually being elected President.
Same thing was said about Trump early on, although I expect things will go quite differently for Bolton.
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Looks like Bolton was misquoted.
With the document leaks, I guess the deep state is showing Biden the door. Now we really have a circus.
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Anyone have an opinion of her?
South Carolina's Nikki Haley to launch 2024 presidential campaign, joining Trump in nomination hunt
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/south-carolinas-nikki-haley-launch-2024-presidential-campaign-joining-trump-nomination-hunt
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Anyone have an opinion of her?
South Carolina's Nikki Haley to launch 2024 presidential campaign, joining Trump in nomination hunt
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/south-carolinas-nikki-haley-launch-2024-presidential-campaign-joining-trump-nomination-hunt
She was accused of adultry. Probably bullshit but 🤷♂️.
I think some consider her a neo-con.
Whether a neo-con or not she’s more likely to be hawkish on the Middle East/China than Trump or DeSantis.
I’d personally prefer her or DeSantis to Trump, only because Trump acts like such a buffoon (whether he really is a buffoon or not). I loved the ultimate results of Trump, but as the world de-globalizes and we need to attract investment in re-shoring our industrial infrastructure, and negotiate trade deals with Japan, Mexico, UK, etc we need someone less buffoon-ish in the Oval Office.
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She was accused of adultry. Probably bullshit but 🤷♂️.
I think some consider her a neo-con.
Whether a neo-con or not she’s more likely to be hawkish on the Middle East/China than Trump or DeSantis.
I’d personally prefer her or DeSantis to Trump, only because Trump acts like such a buffoon (whether he really is a buffoon or not). I loved the ultimate results of Trump, but as the world de-globalizes and we need to attract investment in re-shoring our industrial infrastructure, and negotiate trade deals with Japan, Mexico, UK, etc we need someone less buffoon-ish in the Oval Office.
Sounded to me like Trump did just fine in face to face meetings and negotiations. Seems to me the people that he got into the crazy arguments with were domestic partisan politicians.
Where Trump potentially bothers me is with who he will surround himself with in a 2nd term. That will have as much effect on what ends up getting done than his own behavior. It seems to me that he ended his 1st term with a worse team than he started with.
It will be interesting to see how this goes since few ran against Trump in the last election. Maybe Jeb Bush will try again. =)
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Well, someone is a tad skeptical of Haley.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2023/02/16/no-to-nikki-harris-n2619596
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Well, someone is a tad skeptical of Haley.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2023/02/16/no-to-nikki-harris-n2619596
Schlichter is being pretty hard on her (That's what she said!), but I have to say that when I heard the announcement, I was pretty "meh". Maybe her time is not over, but I don't think 2024 is her time. She might do well in a VP slot, but it sounds like that's a hard no from her.
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In my opinion of the presumed and announced R nominees she is first or second depending on what DeSantis has done today. I don't know enough about her to vote for her today, but I would give her a fair listen and the chance to earn my vote.
As for the theoretical adultery I don't really care.
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In my opinion of the presumed and announced R nominees she is first or second depending on what DeSantis has done today. I don't know enough about her to vote for her today, but I would give her a fair listen and the chance to earn my vote.
As for the theoretical adultery I don't really care.
I guess that's only a "plus" item if you are a democrap.
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Not sure where else to put this. Just thought it was funny the way she goes after Don Lemon. =D
https://youtu.be/5T1TLeIZ5mw
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I guess that's only a "plus" item if you are a democrap.
Bonus points if they're trans
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Well, according to some talking heads this morning, I am incorrect in the VP position being a hard no for Haley, and that she may in fact be positioning herself as a potential VP.
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She was a good governor. I wouldn’t have a problem with her as president
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Biden draws first Democratic challenger for 2024 as Marianne Williamson confirms plans to launch bid
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-draws-first-democratic-challenger-2024-marianne-williamson-confirms-plans-launch-bid
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So those currently in the race are Biden, President Trump, Williamson - all of whom ran in 2020. No.
The only thing we should repeat about 2020 is all the paid time off I got. Nothing else.
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Just a rumor so far but [popcorn]
SCOOP: Former President Trump is strongly considering picking a female running mate.
Kari Lake, a former TV anchor who lost her race for Arizona governor in November, meets Trump's most important qualification for a No. 2.https://t.co/AKph9ePZ6z
— Axios (@axios) March 7, 2023
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/07/if-axios-sources-are-correct-trumps-purported-top-vp-pick-could-make-for-a-wild-2024-campaign/
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Lake was about as Trumpian as you can get, so little surprise that she’s at the top of the list. Except she lost, but there’s also enough smoke to indicate some level of fraud fire in that election so she can claim it was stolen just like 2020.
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He does need people on his team who will be motivated to fight the steal in key states if he wants to win.
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He does need people on his team who will be motivated to fight theto steal in key states if he wants to win.
FIFY
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I was surprised that Trump ran away with the "straw nomination" at CPAC.
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I was surprised that Trump ran away with the "straw nomination" at CPAC TPAC.
FTFY
bob
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Anybody know this guy?
He keeps popping up in my Twitter Newsfeed, as people I follow seem to reply to his tweets.
https://www.vivek2024.com/
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I don't. He was a surprise to me too. He seems like he came out of nowhere (not that I follow politics all that closely) and started showing up all over the fox news.
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I don't. He was a surprise to me too. He seems like he came out of nowhere (not that I follow politics all that closely) and started showing up all over the fox news.
IIRC he started showing up on Fox a couple of years ago, maybe even earlier. He has some good ides but doesn't stand a chance. Sometimes I think these guys declare as a business model to get matching funds from the .gov.
obb
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IIRC he started showing up on Fox a couple of years ago, maybe even earlier. He has some good ides but doesn't stand a chance. Sometimes I think these guys declare as a business model to get matching funds from the .gov.
obb
Another theory is he wants to be Secretary of the Treasury, or Fed Chair, or something.
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IIRC he started showing up on Fox a couple of years ago, maybe even earlier. He has some good ides but doesn't stand a chance. Sometimes I think these guys declare as a business model to get matching funds from the .gov.
obb
Now where have I heard that before about a Republican primary candidate? >:D >:D
I confess I don't normally really pay attention to the candidates till the primarys are mostly done. No point in doing a lot of research on people I'll never hear about again. I gust thought it was interesting how that gentleman went from someone I've never heard of to 4 or 5 views a day on my social media in the span of about two weeks. I winder how much he's spending on Twitter Impressions.
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Well, Ramaswamy seems to be saying the right things at least for some segment of conservatives:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/14/tucker-carlson-asks-every-potential-gop-pres-candidate-about-ukraine-and-wow-this-is-good-thread/
The remarks on Ukraine from the other (potential) primary people are interesting as well.
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I dunno, I think I'd be more inclined to vote for DeSantis if he runs based on him being a regular Joe. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/16/not-a-parody-ron-desantis-pudding-story-may-end-his-2024-presidential-bid/
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Also, "DeSantis is too skinny". ;/
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/17/puck-news-journo-puts-it-out-there-that-desantis-is-using-ozempic-to-shed-pudding-pounds-and-more/
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My prediction is if DeSantis (or [barf] Trump) get on the ticket, Biden (Harris) will get a 2nd term.
DeSantis's politics will be an easy target to rip apart by the opposition. Remember real estate doesn't vote, people do and there are more democrats/democrat leaning independents then republicans/leaning conservative independents.
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In related news Youtube has reinstated Trump
YouTube REINSTATES Trump after two years: Former President has ban lifted from another online platform and can now post videos for 2.5 million followers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11872953/YouTube-lifts-Donald-Trumps-ban-two-years.html
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My prediction is if DeSantis (or [barf] Trump) get on the ticket, Biden (Harris) will get a 2nd term.
DeSantis's politics will be an easy target to rip apart by the opposition. Remember real estate doesn't vote, people do and there are more democrats/democrat leaning independents then republicans/leaning conservative independents.
Explain please.
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He'll get picked apart on his stances about the LGBQT community and don't say gay, his stance on abortion, and how he voted against federal money for the hurricane in NJ but was quick to ask the feds for help in the Florida hurricane.
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He'll get picked apart on his stances about the LGBQT community and don't say gay, his stance on abortion, and how he voted against federal money for the hurricane in NJ but was quick to ask the feds for help in the Florida hurricane.
Perhaps, but the LGBTQ thing didn't hurt him too much in FL, and we have exactly the same percentage of gay population as the nation as a whole. Throw in the electoral college and I don't think that would hurt him over a generic Republican all that much. Truth be told his stance of "Don't stick your crotch in a child's face" isn't all that controversial. Neither is the policy of "Elementary and middle school libraries should not have porn."
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If America prefers Biden/Harris to DeSantis, we're well and truly done for. Oh the noes! He wouldn't let kindergarteners check out pron from the li-barry! LiterallyHitler!!!!!11
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“Don’t say gay” was also horribly mischaracterized in the media, and yet he won reelection handily.
How is his abortion stance meaningfully different from most other Republicans? That’s also not the krptonite you seem to think it is. Support for abortion in polling depends heavily on how the questions are asked. Overall support is much lower than most on the pro-abortion side like to think.
The hurricane funds might be legit, but let’s face it, that’s very small potatoes. That won’t be even close to a make/break issue.
LGBTWTFBBQ issues were covered well by dogmush.
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Throw in the electoral college and I don't think that would hurt him over a genetic Republican all that much.
Wait, is he a trans-republican or something?
Propaganda doesn't have to have any truth to it to be believed. Plenty of people will believe nonsense like "don't say gay".
One thing Desantis has going for him is that - similar to Trump - he doesn't wilt the minute someone accuses him of being an evilbad person. I don't know that he always comes off great in how he responds, but he doesn't apologize for stuff he didn't do.
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doh. stupid auto correct. Generic Republican. Fixed.
I'm not a huge DeSantis fan, but on the propaganda, he or someone on his team is pretty savvy with it as well. He recently did a press conference on the whole "Nazi Book Banning" thing. All the broadcast TV stations were there, and he started it with a video showing the pages of the books that were actually found in schools here. The broadcast stations had to cut the feed because the books can't be shown over the air.
I'd love to see him go on the view with a 4' picture of a explaining how to lubricate and install a butt plug, or how to "safely" send porn of yourself with your cell phone and have Whoopi explain why an elementary school child should see it.
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Yeah, I guess we'd better vote for Jeb!
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It's not as bad as all that. There's some interesting folks on this list, and despite saying earlier I don't pay attention till there's an actual nominee, I find myself pretty interested in the debates if more of them actually get around too running.
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1160113954/2024-republican-presidential-candidates-who-is-running-tracker
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If America prefers Biden/Harris to DeSantis, we're well and truly done for. Oh the noes! He wouldn't let kindergarteners check out pron from the li-barry! LiterallyHitler!!!!!11
America's preference for president is irrelevant. We will get the president "they" decide we will get and anyone that dares to criticize that choice will be labeled a radical and probable domestic terrorist.
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America's preference for president is irrelevant. We will get the president "they" decide we will get and anyone that dares to criticize that choice will be labeled a radical and probable domestic terrorist.
That’s true. The elections we should really care about are for our local sheriff, mayors, county councils, school boards, etc
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More on Possible Trump Indictment: Fox News Reports Final Preparations Being Made to Arrest Trump Next Week… He will “Be Fingerprinted and Processed”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/more-on-possible-trump-indictment-fox-news-reports-final-preparations-being-made-to-arrest-trump-next-week-he-will-be-fingerprinted-and-processed/
I am hearing this rumor today. I guess it was reported they might try to arrest Trump next week. I find it hard to believe they have anything good enough to convict. All this does is give Trump more publicity.
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More on Possible Trump Indictment: Fox News Reports Final Preparations Being Made to Arrest Trump Next Week… He will “Be Fingerprinted and Processed”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/more-on-possible-trump-indictment-fox-news-reports-final-preparations-being-made-to-arrest-trump-next-week-he-will-be-fingerprinted-and-processed/
I am hearing this rumor today. I guess it was reported they might try to arrest Trump next week. I find it hard to believe they have anything good enough to convict. All this does is give Trump more publicity.
That it has taken the district attorney four years to manufacture enough evidence for an indictment is telling, in my opinion. It clearly shows the DA is an incompetent ass.
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That it has taken the district attorney four years to manufacture enough evidence for an indictment is telling, in my opinion. It clearly shows the DA is an incompetent ass.
This is really something. I'm not seeing a whole lot of background yet, but Trump himself is saying that he will be arrested Tuesday. All I've heard is that it's Stormy Daniels related, and Dan Bongino said that what they are accusing Trump of with no evidence is something Hunter Biden actually filmed himself doing with no repercussions. It looks like there will be some protesting. I hope the protestors are careful, or they'll be Jan 6thd.
Also, is Trump living part-time in NYC? I'd be hanging in Florida if I were him. And this NYC DA needs to be behind bars himself.
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He'll get picked apart on his stances about the LGBQT community and don't say gay, his stance on abortion, and how he voted against federal money for the hurricane in NJ but was quick to ask the feds for help in the Florida hurricane.
There is a serious backlash coming against the gay “movement” thanks to the Drag Queen Story Hour, groomers in schools, and so on.
The ordinary gays are also tired of the “movement” as well and a huge number of them don’t want to be associated with the pedos waving dildos at children.
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There is a serious backlash coming against the gay “movement” thanks to the Drag Queen Story Hour, groomers in schools, and so on.
The ordinary gays are also tired of the “movement” as well and a huge number of them don’t want to be associated with the pedos waving dildos at children.
I agree with this. IMO, the conservative Republican stance on gays and trans is mainstream. As long as the candidate is firm in their convictions and don't try to apologize, they will be fine.
The people supporting this crap are the mushy people in leadership positions who think they are supposed to please everyone and are scared of what they perceive as bad publicity.
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The people supporting this crap are the mushy people in leadership positions who think they are supposed to please everyone a small group of purple haired, nose ringed, vocally militant spoiled brats and are scared of what they perceive as bad publicity.
FTFY.
That black lady the other day that explained why you don't see black kids all switching genders, also explained mainstream America pretty well regarding the social media gaslighting that would have you believe more than 50% of kids want to change their sex.
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https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2023/03/28/is-chris-christie-the-trump-destroyer-its-not-going-to-end-nicely-for-trump-in-2024-n539895
He frames the justification for his entry into the race as being the person with the skill to take out Trump. His supporters say he can present an alternative to Trump’s politics of grievance, that Trump’s message has been all about him and victimhood, while Christie can deliver a strong and positive message. It’s important to remember that Trump’s performance on a debate stage is unrelenting and often brutal against his competition.
“You have to be fearless, because he will come back — and right at you,” Christie said. “And that means you need to think about who’s got the skill to do that, and who’s got the guts to do that, because it’s not going to end nicely.”
Nope, that's not going to work. Only an idiot thinks that direct attacks on Trump is the way to get Republican votes. And only an idiot thinks it's a good idea to do so in a face-to-face debate.
If you want to be nominated next year, that is the wrong way to go about it. I hope he's not paying anyone who's telling him to do that.
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That black lady the other day that explained why you don't see black kids all switching genders, also explained mainstream America pretty well regarding the social media gaslighting that would have you believe more than 50% of kids want to change their sex.
I don't know about kids, but blacks and hispanics have higher rates of transvestitism than white people.
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So Newsom is doing a tour of the US (just the bad red states apparently) as I guess some kind of a "I'm here for you" stunt. Even though it's obvious this is him ramping up to run for President. I don't see any scenario where he doesn't run, including if Biden runs again.
Sadly, the $2000 empty suit with the haircut on top will likely get a lot of dem, and even independent votes. I'm betting that if it's him or Trump, he'll take it. If it's him or DeSantis, I'll give a slight edge to DeSantis, though that will depend on how bad the MSM and big tech election interference is this time around.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/04/07/gov-gavin-newsoms-attempted-slam-on-red-murder-states-is-all-fail/
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The really frighteningly insidious thing about the Dark Lord DeSantis is the way he keeps forcing more and more innocent Americans to move to his state. It’s just evil.
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/04/13/more-than-10k-new-yorkers-flee-to-florida-in-2023-n543573
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:rofl: It ain't just NY.
Any "high tax" area (like Chicago) is hemorrhaging population. And while Chicago may be the biggest loser in the state, most of the state is losing population as well. [popcorn]
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Question: is there any law that says a party HAS to hold a primary? Im asking because I just saw a blurb online saying the DNC will not hold debates despite there being two reasonably solid primary challengers. I seem to recall the courts giving the DNC a pass on rigging the primaries for Hillary based on primary elections being a party internal thing, and they can make their own rules.
So is there anything stopping the DNC from just unilaterally saying "Joe's our guy, shut up plebes!'? I kinda understand their reluctance, as having a sitting POTUS primaried would seem to be a scathing indictment of current policy.
Anyways, just wondering if anyone knew the actual laws regarding primaries.
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Question: is there any law that says a party HAS to hold a primary? Im asking because I just saw a blurb online saying the DNC will not hold debates despite there being two reasonably solid primary challengers. I seem to recall the courts giving the DNC a pass on rigging the primaries for Hillary based on primary elections being a party internal thing, and they can make their own rules.
So is there anything stopping the DNC from just unilaterally saying "Joe's our guy, shut up plebes!'? I kinda understand their reluctance, as having a sitting POTUS primaried would seem to be a scathing indictment of current policy.
Anyways, just wondering if anyone knew the actual laws regarding primaries.
I'm pretty sure primaries aren't required by Federal law - consider that some states choose candidates for the general election via caucus, which is a completely partisan process. And in the last election, a couple of states canceled their GOP primaries.
A PO'd primary challenger could potentially run as a 3rd party candidate - I'd love to see a couple of frustrated D's do that in 2024. >:D
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https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2023/03/28/is-chris-christie-the-trump-destroyer-its-not-going-to-end-nicely-for-trump-in-2024-n539895
Nope, that's not going to work. Only an idiot thinks that direct attacks on Trump is the way to get Republican votes. And only an idiot thinks it's a good idea to do so in a face-to-face debate.
If you want to be nominated next year, that is the wrong way to go about it. I hope he's not paying anyone who's telling him to do that.
I tend to agree with that. Attacking Trump just invites him to counter and likely hit home at some point and the media focuses on Trumps response. Best to maintain a consistent message about yourself and your plans for a better America (insert chosen campaign slogan here). Do not respond to Trump except in the most indirect way since you won't do it better than him.
I recall people analyzing the last months of the 2020 campaign saying Biden staying home and not campaigning was likely his best strategy. Biden sucked as a candidate and Trump didn't do as well with all the focus on him. Not sure if that is true, but there is something to it.
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Biden staying in his basement only worked because the media was covering for him. Even the news media in the 90’s wouldn’t have been so in the tank for Biden as to make it seem like that was a even an option let alone a winning strategy.
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HankB:
"A PO'd primary challenger could potentially run as a 3rd party candidate - I'd love to see a couple of frustrated D's do that in 2024. >:D"
From your fingertips to G-d's screen. But The Party is like a curmudgeonly Father who does not shrink from corporal punishment for The Party's wayward children.
How'd you like to pay for your own postage and yard signs next time around? Or do without The Party's sophisticated marketing strategies, like knowing where and when to do your handshaking and baby-kissing for maximum effect?
Do you really think you won public office last time around by the force and rectitude of your own personal philosophies and can do it again as a third party candidate? Sehr Glück with that, Sonny boy.
There's the line.
Toe it.
Terry, 230RN
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Biden staying in his basement only worked because the media was covering for him. Even the news media in the 90’s wouldn’t have been so in the tank for Biden as to make it seem like that was a even an option let alone a winning strategy.
I would expect the media to cover for any democrat in the future also as well as anyone opposing Trump (until the primary is decided).
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I would expect the media to cover for any democrat in the future also as well as anyone opposing Trump (until the primary is decided).
They certainly did that for Fetterman.
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I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that the current thing in office has a studio produced announcement coming out tomorrow to announce his run for reelection because he is not mentally capable of doing it with live press.
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I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that the current thing in office has a studio produced announcement coming out tomorrow to announce his run for reelection because he is not mentally capable of doing it with live press.
That's probably why he hasn't met with Speaker McCarthy to talk about the debt limit - he's not mentally capable of negotiating "live." Hell, even medicated up to his eyeballs reading his lines off the teleprompter is a struggle.
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That's probably why he hasn't met with Speaker McCarthy to talk about the debt limit - he's not mentally capable of negotiating "live." Hell, even medicated up to his eyeballs reading his lines off the teleprompter is a struggle.
And there's a real chance he could run and win in 2024.
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And he's running.
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And he's running.
And he will win.
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And he will win.
They're working on the vote count (behind the scenes) already.
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I can't stand this guy, but when he's right, he's right. This should be considered an outrage whether happening on the R or D side.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/04/25/cenk-uygur-raging-at-the-dnc-for-not-allowing-debates-in-24-primary-the-schadenfreude-we-all-crave/
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Obama (the other one) seems to be back in the rumor mill as a candidate. I could actually buy the suggestion here that they would introduce her as a last minute "save the democracy" candidate were Biden (or his handlers) to change his mind at the last minute and drop out. I could see the MSM and social media going on all out blast mode to promote her over other dem candidates. "It's an Obama! It's a black woman!"
https://twitchy.com/justmindy-313239/2023/04/26/roger-stone-suggests-michelle-obama-may-be-the-democratic-candidate-for-2024-and-heads-are-spinning/
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Guess it's time to drag out the race card again
Biden's ex-chief of staff claims 'racism and sexism' are the reason Kamala Harris is so unpopular - as White House tries to desperately fix her image for 2024 run
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12026715/Bidens-ex-chief-staff-claims-racism-sexism-reason-Kamala-Harris-unpopular.html
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Guess it's time to drag out the race card again
Biden's ex-chief of staff claims 'racism and sexism' are the reason Kamala Harris is so unpopular - as White House tries to desperately fix her image for 2024 run
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12026715/Bidens-ex-chief-staff-claims-racism-sexism-reason-Kamala-Harris-unpopular.html
Every time Kameltoe opens her mouth, she "fixes" her image. [barf]
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Chris Christie thinks he has the 2024 nomination wrapped up and it took me a while to quit laughing.
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What the heck? :O
Former President Donald Trump has agreed to appear at a CNN town hall in New Hampshire on May 10
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While the event will no doubt be a sorely needed ratings boost for the struggling media outlet, the question is why Trump agreed to do it, given his years-long beatdown — with good reason — of “Fake News” CNN. Toss in Trump’s assumed early front-runner status, and it’s damn puzzling.
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In light of Trump’s recent TruthSocial post suggesting he’ll refuse to participate in the GOP presidential primary debates, it strikes me as odd that he apparently has no problem willfully entering the belly of the beast
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Donald Trump making an unforced error? Who would have thunk it?
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Not me!
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If it is a live event, it might not be too bad, but it will still be rigged.
That said, CNN knows what can get them ratings. They might have agreed to conditions.
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https://stream.org/are-gop-candidates-pro-life-pro-choice-or-pro-grift-heres-an-objective-metric/
(https://stream.org/wp-content/uploads/Harden-Scale-Deck-2023-04-28-e1682995606751.png)
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I know Desantis signed a 6 week abortion ban, but does he want to stop there? I hope not, but would like to know.
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Well, Trump was in rare form for his CNN interview. Though I complain about his junior high mean girl stuff, this is actually the "Trump form" I find funny - making lefty heads explode. :laugh:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/11/lefty-twitter-loses-its-freakin-mind-over-trumps-cnn-town-hall-and-lol-here-are-some-of-the-funniest/
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"What I saw last night was as chilling as anything I've seen on television since January the 6th."
;/ :rofl:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/05/11/joe-scarborough-says-cnns-trump-town-hall-was-the-most-chilling-television-since-jan-6th/
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Just my personal opinion, but why do all these nobodies and has-beens always have to come out of the woodwork to run for President at every primary? I'm certain at least some of them know they have no chance in hell, though I'm sure plenty have delusions of grandeur.
Anyways, I blame California for starting this trend of 50 candidates from back when Ahnold ran for governor and you had everyone from D-list celebrities to porn actors running.
https://twitchy.com/rickrobinson-313235/2023/05/21/chris-christie-is-considering-another-run-and-it-is-not-for-doughnuts/
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Anyways, I blame California for starting this trend of 50 candidates from back when Ahnold ran for governor and you had everyone from D-list celebrities to porn actors running.
At least porn "actors" don't try to hide the fact they screw people for a living.
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Just my personal opinion, but why do all these nobodies and has-beens always have to come out of the woodwork to run for President at every primary? I'm certain at least some of them know they have no chance in hell, though I'm sure plenty have delusions of grandeur.
Anyways, I blame California for starting this trend of 50 candidates from back when Ahnold ran for governor and you had everyone from D-list celebrities to porn actors running.
https://twitchy.com/rickrobinson-313235/2023/05/21/chris-christie-is-considering-another-run-and-it-is-not-for-doughnuts/
Brandi Maxxxx 2024
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JOE WALSH FOR PRESIDENT!
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Just my personal opinion, but why do all these nobodies and has-beens always have to come out of the woodwork to run for President at every primary? I'm certain at least some of them know they have no chance in hell, though I'm sure plenty have delusions of grandeur.
Anyways, I blame California for starting this trend of 50 candidates from back when Ahnold ran for governor and you had everyone from D-list celebrities to porn actors running.
https://twitchy.com/rickrobinson-313235/2023/05/21/chris-christie-is-considering-another-run-and-it-is-not-for-doughnuts/
They are all grifters.
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After all of the Beltway backstabbing that Trump endured from both sides of the aisle, I sincerely hope that if he returns, it is with a single-minded focus on righting wrongs, real or imagined. I told a friend of mine the other day that I want him to show up to his second inauguration wearing nothing but a codpiece and carrying a flamethrower. Just to set the tone.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2023/05/22/the-morning-briefing-as-desantis-decision-nears-media-ramps-up-the-smears-n1697100
I'd prefer something more like a suit of armor, but aside from that, I concur.
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JOE WALSH FOR PRESIDENT!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Walsh_(Illinois_politician)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Walsh
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New Trump campaign ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZrMFz7Iprg
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Walsh_(Illinois_politician)
or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Walsh
DUH! :facepalm:
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About those technical glitches with last night's DeSantis-orama:
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/everybody-calm-down-about-desantiss-campaign-debut/
Last night, David Marcus contended, “This is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to a presidential candidate and it’s not close.”
I will skip my usual 20-minute rant about how today’s young people don’t study history and just observe that not only do I reject the contention that “this is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to a presidential candidate,” I don’t think this even makes the top ten most embarrassing moments for a presidential candidate.
In no particular order, because I know readers of this newsletter probably have a favorite and want it near the top, here are ten much-more-embarrassing moments for presidential candidates that I came up with, just off the top of my head:
Then–Texas governor Rick Perry couldn’t remember the third federal department he would eliminate as president. It turned out to be the Department of Energy, which, years later, he ran under President Trump.
In the 2000 race, Gary Bauer fell off a stage while attempting to flip a pancake.
Vermont governor Howard Dean’s list of states and scream.
Michael Dukakis in the tank.
John Kerry’s “bunny suit” photo at NASA.
John Edwards denying he was the father of his mistress’ child, which he later admitted he was.
Bob Dole falling off the stage in Chico, Calif., and then attempting to recover by declaring he had “fallen for Chico.”
Jeb Bush’s “please clap.”
Rubio’s odd verbatim repeating of what he just said moments earlier when challenged by Chris Christie in the New Hampshire debate.
Rudy Giuliani’s decision to hold a press conference about legal challenges to the 2020 election results at Four Seasons Landscaping outside Philadelphia. I would have also accepted whatever it was that was leaking out of Giuliani’s hair during another press conference around that time.
You could list a lot of embarrassing moments for Joe Biden, but I think his 1987 berating of a New Hampshire teacher at a town-hall meeting ranks up there as one of the most spectacularly awkward and self-destructive moments in presidential-campaign history. The question that set off Biden was, “What law school did you attend and where did you place in that class?” Biden responded:
I think I have a much higher IQ than you, I suspect. I went to law school on a full academic scholarship — the only one in my class to have full academic scholarship. The first year in law school, I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class. And then decided I wanted to stay and went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class. I won the international moot court competition. I was the outstanding student in the political science department at the end of my year. I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school and 165 credits; you only needed 123 credits. I would be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours, Frank.
Besides the insufferable arrogance of bragging about how smart he is, it will probably not surprise you to learn that Biden had dramatically exaggerated his academic achievements.
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https://twitter.com/_emergent_/status/1661547282259402758
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https://twitter.com/_emergent_/status/1661547282259402758
That was a great laugh to start my day. :rofl:
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https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2023/05/26/lopez-obrador-urges-hispanic-voters-to-not-give-desantis-any-votes-n553553
Funny. I admit I'm not up-to-date on Mexican politics, but I haven't seen him stressing about other presidential hopefuls.
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https://therightscoop.com/watch-left-wing-breakfast-club-recognizes-the-genius-of-desantis-twitter-launch-hammers-dems-for-clowning-about-glitches/
[Charlemagne Thagod's popular, left-wing talk show] hit back at Democrats for continually highlighting the glitches, pointing out that after the glitches were fixed Governor DeSantis was able to effectively give his positions for over an hour and educate his base. What they want to see is Democrats do the same thing as DeSantis instead of clowning about the glitches. They want to see Democrats respond with their policies and positions in a format like that.
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Who doesn't know the positions of the Democratic Party? They continuously shouted at us.
Kill babies or you hate women.
White men are evil.
White supremacy is the greatest threat to our nation.
Castrate your children, or they will kill themselves.
Homosexual sodomy is wonderful.
Everyone on earth must be allowed in the USA or you are racist.
Give up your guns.
Christianity is bigotry.
Give us your money or you are selfish and evil.
You filthy, evil racist, transphobic, homophobic white monster. Your day is done and you will be replaced. ;/
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Oh no! DeSantis is done for!
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/05/27/antifa-fan-has-photographic-proof-that-desantis-has-the-nazi-vote-locked-up/
I note that one flag looks to have been pulled from the package it came in about 15 seconds before the photo was taken.
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https://twitter.com/_emergent_/status/1661547282259402758
Benny Johnson talked about it. Thanks for the link.
https://rumble.com/v2pyiv3-trump-posts-funniest-meme-in-history-breaks-internet-trolling-desantis-laun.html
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Oh no! DeSantis is done for!
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/05/27/antifa-fan-has-photographic-proof-that-desantis-has-the-nazi-vote-locked-up/
I note that one flag looks to have been pulled from the package it came in about 15 seconds before the photo was taken.
Yeah, these Gen Z Nazis are just not very scary.
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Holy crap Donald Rump, you've got some good bridge burning going on here:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/05/31/trump-takes-aim-at-his-milktoast-former-press-secretary-kayleigh-mcenany-and-chip-roy-has-thoughts/
She was the most prepared press secretary that I can recall in years, and always staunchly defended him. What a horse's ass.
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I always found Trump's habit of publicly insulting his "friends" completely crazy.
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Well this should get Trump going
ANOTHER Republican enters the 2024 race: Mike Pence will announce White House run next week to take on Trump - who defended Capitol rioters' threats to hang him on January 6
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12145395/Mike-Pence-announce-White-House-run-week-Trump.html
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https://babylonbee.com/news/dnc-generously-offers-to-host-rally-for-rfk-jr-by-grassy-knoll
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I find it really odd that no one ever mentions Robert Kennedy's voice. Was he injured or something?
Oh, let me Google that for me.
https://www.distractify.com/p/robert-f-kennedy-jr-voice
Nevermind
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I find it really odd that no one ever mentions Robert Kennedy's voice. Was he injured or something?
Oh, let me Google that for me.
https://www.distractify.com/p/robert-f-kennedy-jr-voice
Nevermind
I'll bet real money that, since he's not towing the D line, it will be used against him by the same progressives that praised Fetterman.
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I'll bet real money that, since he's not towing the D line, it will be used against him by the same progressives that praised Fetterman.
No doubt.
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Yeah, we can't have an obviously mentally impaired person running for office
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Yeah, Newsom isn't running for president at all. He managed to gather all 50 democrats in Idaho though.
Newsom, who hit the road during the Fourth of July holiday weekend, told a group of roughly 50 Democrats gathered in the backyard of a mansion overlooking the Boise foothills Saturday to make the "powerful case for why we should be passionate, enthusiastic about Biden’s reelection.”
Definitely a man of the people.
He also visited a Boise hippie bookstore to protest "book bans". My guess is that he bought the book that teaches ten year olds to give blow jobs to men, but didn't buy Huck Finn.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newsom-hits-the-road-to-campaign-for-biden-in-idaho-building-his-own-base-in-red-states/ar-AA1dmyG1
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Seems that the liberal media is starting to turn on old Joe.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/07/10/hive-mind-activated-media-going-after-biden-n2385239
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Biden reportedly fumes and spews curses at staff in private: ‘No one is safe’
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/biden-reportedly-fumes-spews-curses-115409567.html
Interesting that you post that Ben. I just saw this article on Yahoo News. Repeated story from Fox saying bad things about Biden. I would not have expected them to put any headlines up that were so critical of Biden.
I guess it could just be competing interests among Democrat backers.
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Nah.
He was supposed to secure the win over Trump, and then fade away after one term for a progressive candidate. The fact that he seems to have forgotten his place and is staying on is infuriating the power brokers on the left. Kamala has turned out to be a horrible bet that they know can't win, Biden isn't leaving like he was supposed to, and they are casting about frantically for an American Justin Trudeau.
Increasingly hostile press is part the plan to make him choose to leave quietly.
Remember all these articles: https://www.google.com/search?q=joe+biden+one+term+president+2020+articles#ip=1
They were the warning shots.
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It is possible that the secret service finding cocaine in the white house after the family visits for Independence Day is something hard to ignore. This isn't partisan Republicans making accusations or "edited" videos supposedly showing things (or whatever cope used to ignore everything up to now). It sort of confirms the accusations against Hunter as well as the laptop stuff.
Also, if they are going to give anyone a chance to get their name on top by January, they need to start the process now.
...... Maybe just wishful thinking.
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Don't worry they have Newsome all warmed up.
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Don't worry they have Newsome all warmed up.
He's their white Obama.
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Don't worry they have Newsome all warmed up.
The Reparations ticket
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The Reparations ticket.
If you think inflation is bad now with all the "giveaways" over the last 2-3 years, imagine what it will be if that ever makes it. :O :facepalm: [barf]
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Trump Announces He Will Make Vivek Ramaswamy Head Of Tech Support In Next Administration
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-announces-he-will-make-vivek-ramaswamy-head-of-tech-support-in-next-administration
Babylon Bee BTW
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Man, the dems really don't want RFK to run. I think he's a bit out there, but he seems to have some popularity with dem voters disillusioned by brandon, so he should be given the same consideration as anyone else.
Like Brandon Jr. Besides that crazy motorcade the other day, the SS apparently pays $30K/mo rent to live next door to him.
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/07/28/miranda-devine-notes-who-has-and-hasnt-been-deemed-worthy-of-secret-service-protection-n2385807
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Man, the dems really don't want RFK to run. I think he's a bit out there, but he seems to have some popularity with dem voters disillusioned by brandon, so he should be given the same consideration as anyone else.
Like Brandon Jr. Besides that crazy motorcade the other day, the SS apparently pays $30K/mo rent to live next door to him.
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/07/28/miranda-devine-notes-who-has-and-hasnt-been-deemed-worthy-of-secret-service-protection-n2385807
RFK did not kill himself
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RFK is another antigun ahole.
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RFK is another antigun ahole.
Yeah? So?
Brandon is an antigun ahole too. So is Kamala. So is the haircut from California. I'm not voting for RFK. People who believe the opposite of what I believe have the right to run for president and should get equal treatment doing so. Kamala and haircut would both be getting instant SS protection.
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Yeah? So?
You said he should get the same consideration as anyone else.
That's why I'm not considering him. Perhaps I misunderstood what you were trying to say?
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You said he should get the same consideration as anyone else.
That's why I'm not considering him. Perhaps I misunderstood what you were trying to say?
It's not about who you or me are voting for - it's about fairness for candidates across the political spectrum to be able to run. The establishment dems are doing the same to him as the establishment Rs did to Trump, and what the establishment Rs will do to guys like Ramaswamy. If RFK meets all the same qualifications for a dem candidacy As Harris or Newsom, he should receive the same consideration, to include SS protection that they will absolutely get if Biden quits and they run.
Outsiders not welcome, even though that's exactly what we need.
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The community note on that tweet says it all. Candidates don't get SS protection this far out, and every rando that runs a campaign doesn't necessarily ever get one.
Immediate family of the sitting President does, pretty much always, get SS protection detail. If he's still a candidate with an inkling of a chance going into next July, he'll get a detail with all the other candidates.
Someone is trying to make something out of nothing for the clicks, and I suspect it's RFK Jr. in this case.
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A candidate with no real chance making up spurious claims for attention? Say it ain’t so!
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The community note on that tweet says it all. Candidates don't get SS protection this far out, and every rando that runs a campaign doesn't necessarily ever get one.
Immediate family of the sitting President does, pretty much always, get SS protection detail. If he's still a candidate with an inkling of a chance going into next July, he'll get a detail with all the other candidates.
Someone is trying to make something out of nothing for the clicks, and I suspect it's RFK Jr. in this case.
I concede the point. The community note wasn't there when I first posted.
I will continue to argue that the establishment on both sides is out to kibosh all outsiders. =)
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It's not about who you or me are voting for - it's about fairness for candidates across the political spectrum to be able to run.
OK, now I understand what you are trying to say. That does make sense.
It is my understanding the political parties are literally private clubs, which they can run any way the members want, however. They don't have to allow any sort of democracy in how they pick candidates and so on.
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OK, now I understand what you are trying to say. That does make sense.
It is my understanding the political parties are literally private clubs, which they can run any way the members want, however. They don't have to allow any sort of democracy in how they pick candidates and so on.
It used to be literally a group of dudes in a smoke filled room.
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Wasn't it Tammany Hall in NYC that was the epitome of the "smoke filled room"? They would put the candidate they wanted out to run, then "told" the people to "vote" for that guy.
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I will continue to argue that the establishment on both sides is out to kibosh all outsiders. =)
100% agree.
Now watch what happens if you suggest people should vote for a different party than the established ones.... >:D >:D
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Me, I'm pretty much just grooving on the number of folks who are blathering about "anyone but Trump," but not necessarily "anyone but Biden."
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Well, apparently there is some precedent for earlier SS coverage for candidates.
Donald Trump, 365 days prior
John McCain, 551 days prior
Barack Obama, 551 days prior
Behind a paywall, but there's a bunch more listed here:
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2023/07/29/robert-kennedy-jr-denied-secret-service-protection-n2385820
120 days is apparently for spouses.
(7) Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and, within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses of such candidates.
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https://twitter.com/Trump_History45
Here is a great Twitter handle if you ever need good entertaining historical facts about Trump. =)
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I would like to see some of images Trump signing a sane budget, refraining from publicly insulting conservatives, standing up for civil rights, firing Fauci and similar fantasies.
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Brandon Herrera running for congress. Yes that Brandon Herrera
I’m Running For Congress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Csor5eA9Uo
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I would like to see some of images Trump signing a sane budget, refraining from publicly insulting conservatives, standing up for civil rights, firing Fauci and similar fantasies.
Trump is who he is at this point. He is a mixed bag and isn't going to change. His popularity is simply a result of how fed up a whole lot of people are.
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You are right. Trump is a charismatic populist; he isn't a solution.
He bears quite a bit of blame for the inflation we have been having, due to policies by his Fed appointees during his last year in office. His supporters don't seem to realize this. His first three years were mostly good, but his decisions during his final year were awful.
This inflation has made me much poorer than I was. My salary moved from "ok" to "inadequate." :-[
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but his decisions during his final year were awful.
I would say that a lot of his economic policies were bad the whole four years. Some stuff he did well, but like dems, he was a big proponent of "zero interest rates" when he should have been promoting small and well spaced interest rate hikes over his four years to slowly get us to a stable 3-4%.
Now we have the interest crazy train, which I actually don't mind as it has all the cash I have sitting on the sidelines earning decent interest. It's not good for the economy overall though. These guys only seem to know "slam on the brakes" and "floor it".
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I gotta say, I continue to be more and more impressed with Ramaswamy.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/08/17/bombshell-biden-used-n2386363
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ramaswamy-goes-viral-following-exchange-lgbtq-activist-respect-different-opinion
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Scientists race to understand highly mutated coronavirus variant spotted in four countries, including the US
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/18/health/coronavirus-variant/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_content=2023-08-19T00%3A00%3A16&utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social
The 2024 election variant is coming around the corner.
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I would say that a lot of his economic policies were bad the whole four years.
Based on my own pocketbook issues, I disagree. My 401(k) went up over 50% during Trump's 4 years in office, inflation was moderate, and my last gas fill-up two days before Brandon took office cost me $1.899/gallon. Trump's tax cuts also let me keep more of my own money.
NO President during my lifetime was perfect - not even Reagan - since without exception, they spent too much at the Federal level. (This includes Trump.) And as for the corona virus - some stuff he did right, some he got wrong.
I sure as hell don't worship the ground Trump walks on, but I don't see ANY other serious POTUS contender over the past 2 decades (from either party) doing better with the Chinese virus.
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I don't disagree that overall, he was better for the economy than most recent presidents. That zero percent interest stuff just grinds my gears though, and politicians from both parties (as well as some other first world countries (ref: Germany)) continually push it as an economic fix, which it is in the short term, but you pay for it down the road. Especially when you make the changes back to normal quickly instead of gradually.
Also, in what economy does anyone (or organization) want to loan out money at 1-3% interest? No to mention retired people should have an ultraconservative vehicle to stash cash with at least a 4% return.
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The biggest Pro-DeSantis PAC was just suspended on twitter. The day of the first debate. Interestingly, the finger pointing seems to be more in the direction of pro-Trump entities than lefty entities.
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2023/08/23/never-back-down-pro-desantis-pac-suspended-n2386514
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Interesting. Apparently the Biden and Harris team is upset that haircut is going to debate DeSantis. This is certainly another check in the "Newsom wants to run" box, and he doesn't seem to want to wait until/if Biden decides not to run.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-harris-advisers-irked-newsoms-plan-debate-desantis-disrespectful
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Did someone try to assassinate Kennedy Jr.?
And questions raised on why Kennedy Jr is still being denied secret service protection
I’m very grateful that alert and fast-acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and Associates (GDBA) spotted and detained an armed man who attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at the Wilshire Ebell Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man, wearing two shoulder holsters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines was carrying a U.S. Marshal badge on a lanyard and beltclip federal ID. He identified himself as a member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived to make the arrest. I’m also grateful to LAPD for its rapid response.
I’m still entertaining a hope that President Biden will allow me Secret Service protection. I am the first presidential candidate in history to whom the White House has denied a request for protection.
But his story doesn't quite exactly mesh with the police report which said the man was arrested outside.
BREAKING: Assassination attempt on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.?
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2023/09/16/was-someone-planning-to-kill-robert-kennedy-jr-n2387336
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Now we have Married SD Governor Kristi Noem and married Trump Advisor Corey Lewandowski in a supposedly multiyear affair.
So much for her national office aspirations, she was one of the names tossed around for Trump's VP candidate if he got the nomination. I wonder if she will step down or not run for governor again?
We all know the stories about VP Harris, but Noem states she is a conservative with strong family values.
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Now we have Married SD Governor Kristi Noem and married Trump Advisor Corey Lewandowski in a supposedly multiyear affair.
So much for her national office aspirations, she was one of the names tossed around for Trump's VP candidate if he got the nomination. I wonder if she will step down or not run for governor again?
We all know the stories about VP Harris, but Noem states she is a conservative with strong family values.
Yeah, saw that. Apparently only paid lip service to those "strong" family values.
Just realized that could be construe as a pun.
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Trump has had several epically public affairs including banging a porn star. Trump voters are not going to care if Noem got a piece on the side. If it's even admitted to by her, him, or the spouses involved.
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Trump has had several epically public affairs including banging a porn star. Trump voters are not going to care if Noem got a piece on the side. If it's even admitted to by her, him, or the spouses involved.
Yep. Besides which, the D’s will make any accusation they can to hurt their R rivals. Until it’s admitted to by the participants and/or their spouses I’ll consider it just another smear campaign.
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Noem vs Trump, it is America, where men are forgiven their transgressions especially if it is just a minor extramarital sexual escapade but OMG if it is a married or possibly unmarried woman they had better be as pure as a newborn lamb. Double standards do exist. I really don't care who sticks what into who as long as national security is not involved, you hear me Eric? ;)
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The Washington Post seems to be flabbergasted by their own poll. :rofl:
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2023/09/24/trump-10-over-biden-washington-post-rejects-latest-poll-from-washington-post-n2387666
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If you want to see a real storm, get someone like Ross Perrot to run Independent. Not sure who that would be but I'm sure there is someone out there.
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The Washington Post seems to be flabbergasted by their own poll. :rofl:
Me too. Maybe I am wrong about Trump's electability? We will see. As much as I detest Trump, I'd much rather have him than Biden.
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Me too. Maybe I am wrong about Trump's electability? We will see. As much as I detest Trump, I'd much rather have him than Biden.
I'm still confused too. And it appears Hailey is surpassing DeSantis. It's gonna be an interesting nine or so months.
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Just please, please, please no Independent conservative candidates. Pretty please...
(entrenched personal opinion of 230RN>) On the other hand, I would be glad to see a liberal Independent candidate, although since they are all in lockstep, I can't imagine finding one different enough from the lemming herd to set up as an Independent. To put it bluntly, I don't think there are any independent thinkers among the left clique. (<entrenched personal opinion of 230RN)
Maybe the Republican Dirty Tricks Circle can engineer a way to put up a pseudo-hyper-liberal Independent candidate. It is easy to imagine the Democratic Dirty Tricks Circle have already set up pseudo-conservative candidates in previous cycles.
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Just please, please, please no Independent conservative candidates. Pretty please...
(entrenched personal opinion of 230RN>) On the other hand, I would be glad to see a liberal Independent candidate, although since they are all in lockstep, I can't imagine finding one different enough from the lemming herd to set up as an Independent. To put it bluntly, I don't think there are any independent thinkers among the left clique. (<entrenched personal opinion of 230RN)
Maybe the Republican Dirty Tricks Circle can engineer a way to put up a pseudo-hyper-liberal Independent candidate. It is easy to imagine the Democratic Dirty Tricks Circle have already set up pseudo-conservative candidates in previous cycles.
I am not sure if the RNC establishment types would do that. It would ruin their "proud minority" badge of honor in D.C. Plus, it would be obvious where that candidate was getting their money. They are all best friends with leftist Democrats anyway and want to get invited to their parties.
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I saw a blurb on Twitter that said RFK Jr. was going to run as an independent if the DNC denies him a debater and fair primary shot.
We can only hope.
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I saw a blurb on Twitter that said RFK Jr. was going to run as an independent if the DNC denies him a debater and fair primary shot.
We can only hope.
And out will come the sexual harassment charges
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And out will come the sexual harassment charges
Oh definitely.
Although, anecdotally, those seem to be losing their punch the same way "racist" and "NAZI" did. The true believers will still scream about them, but normies seem to be starting to want to see some evidence. I guess we can thank the boy who cried wolf effect and Amber Heard for that.
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Oh definitely.
Although, anecdotally, those seem to be losing their punch the same way "racist" and "NAZI" did. The true believers will still scream about them, but normies seem to be starting to want to see some evidence. I guess we can thank the boy who cried wolf effect and Amber Heard for that.
What is this "evidence" thing you speak of? Do you mean rumor cast into MSM news reports? Or internet innuendo? Or do you just mean gossip over the back fence?
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Terry, 230RN
Image credit in Properties
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Hillary Clinton apparently started hitting the MSM circuit this weekend screaming "Russian election fraud 2024!!!"
Never too early I guess. That Washington Post poll with a ten point lead for Trump must really be freaking them out.
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And out will come the sexual harassment charges
"I was raped by Donald Trump Russell Brand Robert Kennedy Jr."
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Trump goes gun shopping:
https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1706373580512981230
... which raises the question: is it legal for a person under felony indictment to buy a firearm? I think so, given the presumption (hah) of innocence.
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Trump goes gun shopping:
https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1706373580512981230
... which raises the question: is it legal for a person under felony indictment to buy a firearm? I think so, given the presumption (hah) of innocence.
It is not. It is also not legal to purchase a pistol from an FFL in a state of which you are not a resident. I suspect that he did not infeact complete that purchase.
Also, I'm really disappointed no PSA employee offered to sell him a bump stock.
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It is not. It is also not legal to purchase a pistol from an FFL in a state of which you are not a resident.
Point taken re pistol purchases. About the felony indictment, I'm not so sure.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-09-20/americans-under-felony-indictment-have-a-right-to-buy-guns-judge-rules
(this ruling was in Texas and is being appealed. Trump was in South Carolina, so the ruling may not apply)
I suspect that he did not infeact complete that purchase.
Yep, some spokesperson later stated that Trump didn't buy a firearm.
Also, I'm really disappointed no PSA employee offered to sell him a bump stock.
Same here. >:D
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It is not. It is also not legal to purchase a pistol from an FFL in a state of which you are not a resident. I suspect that he did not infeact complete that purchase.
Also, I'm really disappointed no PSA employee offered to sell him a bump stock.
It can be purchased but it then has to shipped to an FFL in your state of residence where the transfer is done.
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Point taken re pistol purchases. About the felony indictment, I'm not so sure.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-09-20/americans-under-felony-indictment-have-a-right-to-buy-guns-judge-rules
(this ruling was in Texas and is being appealed. Trump was in South Carolina, so the ruling may not apply)
I had forgotten about that case. I just remembered the 4473 says:
Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year,
I suspect no FFL will finish the sale if you check yes on that one. Hopefully that case finishes up and they revamp the 4473 again.
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The exchange was posted on social media by Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung, who wrote Trump purchased the gun. Cheung later clarified the former president did not actually make the purchase and he deleted the video he posted on X, the platform formally known as Twitter.
Then of course the article tells you how many "mass shootings" there have been this year.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12559135/Trump-GUN-shopping-Marjorie-Taylor-Greene-829-99-9MM-GLOCK-face.html
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Well, apart from the (patently unconstitutional) technical aspects of Trump buying a gun, with respect to RFK Jr running as an independent:
And out will come the sexual harassment charges
More significantly, there will be the "Ambassadorship" or "Agency Headship" bribes to not run as an Independent. Which you will not hear about. Or maybe even Veepship.
Just please, please, please no Independent conservative candidates. Pretty please...
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Terry, 230RN
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Well, apart from the (patently unconstitutional) technical aspects of Trump buying a gun, with respect to JFK Jr running as an independent:
More significantly, there will be the "Ambassadorship" or "Agency Headship" bribes to not run as an Independent. Which you will not hear about. Or maybe even Veepship.
The problem with a Veepship, at least from the DNC perspective, is that no one seems to have informed the current placeholders that they were, in fact, place holders until Trump cold be put down.
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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announces his run for the Presidency ... as an Independent
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2023/10/09/rfk-robert-kennedy-announces-run-as-independent-n2388319
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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announces his run for the Presidency ... as an Independent
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2023/10/09/rfk-robert-kennedy-announces-run-as-independent-n2388319
Should only help whoever the R nominee is. Most people on the right might be less nauseated by RFK Jr but there’s unlikely to be a significant shift in cots his way. Even if Trump is the R nominee the votes RFK will get still be at least 3:1 from D’s. That will make it much harder for the D nominee to win without even more blatant cheating than in 2020.
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Meathead is not happy and that's good thing in my book
Bobby Kennedy Jr.’s announcement to run as an Independent is a dangerous and cynical move by wealthy Republicans to put Trump back in the WH. I talked with Bobby and told him that what he is doing could destroy American Democracy. He didn’t care.
— Rob Reiner (@robreiner) October 9, 2023
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/10/09/rob-reiner-tried-to-save-democracy-by-telling-rfk-jr-why-he-shouldnt-run-but-he-didnt-care-n2388324
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Should only help whoever the R nominee is. Most people on the right might be less nauseated by RFK Jr but there’s unlikely to be a significant shift in cots his way. Even if Trump is the R nominee the votes RFK will get still be at least 3:1 from D’s. That will make it much harder for the D nominee to win without even more blatant cheating than in 2020.
I don't know. I bet plenty of otherwise GOP voters will vote for RFF.
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I don't know. I bet plenty of otherwise GOP voters will vote for RFF.
Actually I've gotta side with sumpnz here. I know many conservative voters are in my boat - they support him against the establishment, but they would never vote for him.
For people who might vote for him, I would look to what I'm calling the "Tulsi Gabbard crowd" - dems and independents who have been speaking out against the establishment over the last couple of years, especially regarding the Trump vendetta stuff. I'm gonna guess that given Biden as the dem, and RFK the only "name" independent, that a lot of them that don't just stay home, will vote for him.
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Lots of people on arfcom drool over RFK.
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RFK and Tulsi are what I wish Democrats were. That is to say, people with whom I may disagree on a bunch of issues but at the end of the day not worry that they fundamentally hate the founding ideas of the USA or are trying to actively trying to destroy our country. I wouldn't want to vote for either of them, but I could probably think of some Republicans I'd have to pass up for them.
I have no idea what RFK's likely pull is with people who vote Democrat today. When polled against Biden regarding the Democratic primary he was getting support from only a tiny fraction of Democrat voters. In the polls that pit Biden vs Trump vs Kennedy, Biden and Trump are in a dead heat with Trump barely edging out a win ... but Biden and Trump have been polling at about that ratio without Kennedy involved too. Honestly, I could see Kennedy spoiling for either candidate and afterward everyone nodding sagely and saying that they knew it was going to happen.
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Lots of people on arfcom drool over RFK.
That's very surprising to me. I'm curious if it's all younger guys?
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RFK and Tulsi are what I wish Democrats were.
I'm not even sure you could call Tulsi a dem anymore, or even if she calls herself one. I continue to be impressed with what she has had to say since her, I guess not red-pilling, but whatever pill people take that's not red or blue.
Obviously "put your money where your mouth is" comes into play, but if she were to support what she says she supports now, I don't know if I would vote for her for President (I might), but I would not be grinding my teeth for four years while she tramples my rights, which these other jokers have done. She might do stuff I don't agree with, but then they all do that.
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I'm not even sure you could call Tulsi a dem anymore, or even if she calls herself one.
Loads of arfcomers drool over Tulsi too. ;/
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I'm not even sure you could call Tulsi a dem anymore, or even if she calls herself one.
That’s fair, and RFK is apparently ditching the party too. Just goes to show that the kind of Democrats who love the country can’t get along with the Democrat party anymore.
But no, it was Trump who shifted the Overton window so much.
Loads of arfcomers drool over Tulsi too. ;/
She is a good looking woman. Better to drool over her than RFK.
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Lots of people on arfcom drool over RFK.
You might tell them to search what he said about the NRA. The NRA has made the 2nd Amendment a suicide pact with our children. When are we going to deal with the NRA.
That might not be an exact quote but it's close.
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Wow. RFK's own family is attacking him, invoking his father. Seems to me that he's actually closer to his father's politics than to modern dem politics.
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2023/10/09/rfk-jrs-siblings-try-to-sink-his-third-party-run-faster-than-uncle-teds-chappaquiddick-sedan-n2388347
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The DNC is going to come after him with everything they can to get him to drop out before people start early voting. They smell a Ross Perot.
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You might tell them to search what he said about the NRA.
It doesn't matter what anti-gun things they say.
Charismatic aholes saying things that push the right emotional buttons... Trump, Tulsi, RFK. Loads of people love them anyway. Even on a gun forum.
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It doesn't matter what anti-gun things they say.
Yeah "take the guns first, go through due process second" =(
I have hard time telling who RFK will take votes from, he was anti-vax before it was cool and Trump is still proud of Operation Warp Speed. Judging by his Tucker interview and upcoming appearance at CPAC (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4242110-rfk-jr-set-to-speak-at-cpac-event/), RFK's current audience seems to be conservatives.
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Well, this is interesting. Never in a million years would I have expected Tulsi to consider this:
https://youtu.be/Ek51cIacDs0
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Well, this is interesting. Never in a million years would I have expected Tulsi to consider this:
https://youtu.be/Ek51cIacDs0
Quite the change from 2020. Has she really changed her stance, or is this her just being flexible and saying what she thinks Trump would want to hear?
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Quite the change from 2020. Has she really changed her stance, or is this her just being flexible and saying what she thinks Trump would want to hear?
I believe she's sincere in her change in politics, but I thought her whole deal with Trump was that she didn't like him, but was defending him not as Trump, but as a railroaded citizen.
I would have never though that she would consider a VP spot under him. Although, one thing about the VP spot is that unlike cabinet spots, Trump would pretty much be stuck with her if he did one of his "Mattis is the greatest/Mattis is an idiot" flipflops, and maybe she thinks she'd be able to do some good under those circumstances from a somewhat "protected" position.
Of course I have no idea what Trump thinks of her, so the point may be moot. My guess is that if Trump gets the nomination, that he will be looking for a guaranteed "yes man" for the VP slot so as not to have any Pence incidents. I don't think Tulsi would be a "yes woman".
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Pence is out.
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2023/10/28/mike-pence-drops-out-recently-unsuspended-gaypatriot-celebrates-as-only-he-can-n2389133
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Pence is out.
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2023/10/28/mike-pence-drops-out-recently-unsuspended-gaypatriot-celebrates-as-only-he-can-n2389133
Not that he was actually “in” in the first place
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In Most Popular Move Of Presidential Campaign, Mike Pence Ends Presidential Campaign
https://babylonbee.com/news/in-best-decision-since-launching-presidential-campaign-mike-pence-ends-presidential-campaign
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Gavin Newsom EMBARRASSES Himself Playing Basketball With Kids In China As California FALLS APART!
https://youtu.be/h5L6Isz03mc?si=qADq8r2G-2JATPtg&t=276
I put this here since many think Biden will drop out of the race and Gavin will move in as the presumptive Democrat nominee. Looked like he realized what he was doing mid-fall and tried to recover only to look even worse.
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Family Makes Tough Decision To Put Aging Grandpa In US Senate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFeNSB66PY0
The Babylon Bee
:laugh:
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The Minnesota Supreme Court on Wednesday punted on a decision that could keep former President Donald Trump off the 2024 presidential ballot in that state.
The court dismissed a lawsuit that would bar Trump from the primary ballot under a provision of the 14th Amendment that bars people from holding public office if they “engaged in insurrection or rebellion.” But the justices noted on Wednesday that the decision applied only to the state’s primary, leaving open the possibility that the former president could be booted from the ballot in the general election in November.
Minnesota Supreme Court: Trump can remain on the ballot — for now
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/08/minnesota-supreme-court-trump-ballot-00126210
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I don't see Trump not being allowed on the ballot in any state, unless he is found guilty of sedition. I think the start of that trial is in March 2024, which is in the middle of primary/caucus season.
I'm tired of living in interesting times.
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I don't see Trump not being allowed on the ballot in any state, unless he is found guilty of sedition. I think the start of that trial is in March 2024, which is in the middle of primary/caucus season.
I'm tired of living in interesting times.
He would appeal any decision directly to scotus most likely.
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He would appeal any decision directly to scotus most likely.
Dems: Even more reason to pack the court
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He would appeal any decision directly to scotus most likely.
I would expect any candidate to do so.
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Some are saying he is going to run for pres
Breaking: West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin NOT Running for Re-Election
https://twitchy.com/coucy/2023/11/09/manchin-not-running-for-re-election-n2389617
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Some are saying he is going to run for pres
Breaking: West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin NOT Running for Re-Election
https://twitchy.com/coucy/2023/11/09/manchin-not-running-for-re-election-n2389617
More like he knows his goose is cooked as a D in WV.
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From the second debate:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f7UULUiMluU
:laugh: :laugh:
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Guess you'll have to wait on President Rock, says he ain't running.........maybe
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson says political parties approached him to run for president: 'One after the other'
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/dwayne-rock-johnson-says-political-parties-approached-run-president-one-other
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A gentle reminder:
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Tim Scott is out
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J6 Buffaloman running for congress
QAnon Shaman Files for 2024 Congressional Bid and LOOOOOL, Lefites are Melting Down AND Freaking TF Out
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/13/qanon-shaman-files-for-24-congressional-bid-n2389727
Does this make it now The 2024 Zoo?
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I hate to upset any DeSantis fans, but his campaign is over. Turns out, he supported Mitt Romney.
In 2005.
Read the shocking truth here:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/desantis-romney-fought-us-unearthed-yearbook-photo-shows/story?id=104882433
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Well, she was the second place darling for a while, anyway.
NEW - Nikki Haley: "Every person on social media should be verified by their name" because of "national security."
https://twitchy.com/gordon-k/2023/11/14/breaking-nikki-haley-just-lost-the-very-online-vote-n2389810
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Minnesota Supreme Court: Trump can remain on the ballot — for now
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/08/minnesota-supreme-court-trump-ballot-00126210
And now Michigan
Trump to remain on Michigan ballot after judge rejects 14th Amendment challenge to eligibility
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-remain-michigan-ballot-judge-rejects-14th-amendment-challenge-eligibility
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As with every presidential election, I completely got the lineup wrong. I just saw a poll (I didn't catch by whom) flash on the Fox Business. I am just flabbergasted that DeSantis is at 9% and Christie...CHRISTIE is at 14%. I mean, I got Trump right, but only because I expected lots of people would back him simply because of the Banana Republic attacks against him.
Otherwise, I really expected this to be a neck and neck between DeSantis and Trump.
EDIT: It appears what I saw was the latest New Hampshire poll. Other national polls have Christie much lower and DeSantis higher, but nowhere near Trump.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/republican_nomination_polls/#!
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Just remember, these are essentially the same pollsters that were telling us Hillary was going to win in an historic landslide.
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DJ uses Trump speech as his set intro at frat party:
https://youtube.com/shorts/bLnrbWGThXA?si=4qV8DhN3eo7hHsTu
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[popcorn]
BLM leader endorses Trump for 2024, accuses Dems of 'racist' policies: 'We're not stupid'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/blm-leader-calls-democrats-racist-policies-endorses-trump-2024-stupid
Someone in BLM pops him in 10,9,8,7.......
But hopefully this is a sign they're realizing the dems have been using them
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Democrats Nominate Fallen National Christmas Tree For Presidential Run
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-nominate-national-christmas-tree-for-presidential-run
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As with every presidential election, I completely got the lineup wrong. I just saw a poll (I didn't catch by whom) flash on the Fox Business. I am just flabbergasted that DeSantis is at 9% and Christie...CHRISTIE is at 14%. I mean, I got Trump right, but only because I expected lots of people would back him simply because of the Banana Republic attacks against him.
Otherwise, I really expected this to be a neck and neck between DeSantis and Trump.
EDIT: It appears what I saw was the latest New Hampshire poll. Other national polls have Christie much lower and DeSantis higher, but nowhere near Trump.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/republican_nomination_polls/#!
I think we have talked about it, but I think DeSantis has some bad campaign advisors or something. I think he made the mistake of almost immediately attacking Trump and generally did poorly at the start and in the first debate. He sounded much better in the last one, but still not near as good as Vivek. I think Vivek has done what suggested. Refusing to criticize Trump for the most part and running as the outside candidate-most-like-Trump.
There was a debate between DeSantis and the Cali dude last night, but I didn't watch it.
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And add to that how the media vilifies DeSantis 24/7 and portrays FL as a horror states where gays and blacks are hunted down and books are banned, that's bound to have an effect in the polls.
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I think we have talked about it, but I think DeSantis has some bad campaign advisors or something. I think he made the mistake of almost immediately attacking Trump...
No, not at all. Trump attacked and slandered Ron "Desanctimonious" for months, while DeSantis mainly just shrugged it off. That was probably the right call, but Trump's violation of the 11th commandment probably has as much to do with DeSantis's current poll numbers as anything else.
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Correctly or not, Trump clearly feels betrayed by DeSantis' run in a way he doesn't for the candidates that he was less influential in their careers.
Add to that that DeSantis is the clear second place, and yeah, he's going to get the full Trump. I seem to remember Trump coming hard at the other R's in the 2016 primary as well. He had little nicknames for the top three or four.
If Trump doesn't give you a mean nickname, it means he doesn't think you are really an opponent.
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The media gives massive amounts of airtime to Trump, and mostly ignores GOP candidates who aren't jackasses.
Trump is very good at publicity.
The government is persecuting Trump for (mostly) corrupt reasons, making him appear as a (mostly) blameless victim.
Right wing voters are getting more culturally corrupt, like the country as a whole.
I think those are the reasons the GOP is stupidly picking him again, over someone more competent.
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Correctly or not, Trump clearly feels betrayed by DeSantis' run in a way he doesn't for the candidates that he was less influential in their careers.
Add to that that DeSantis is the clear second place, and yeah, he's going to get the full Trump. I seem to remember Trump coming hard at the other R's in the 2016 primary as well. He had little nicknames for the top three or four.
If Trump doesn't give you a mean nickname, it means he doesn't think you are really an opponent.
I guess that's a response to my post. (?)
I doubt Trump feels any more betrayed by DeSantis than, say, Pence or Haley. Obviously, anyone opposing Trump is going to get Trumped, especially when he's the runner-up.
This isn't just a Trump problem. Republicans have had this problem for years. Maybe it's worse on our side because Legacy Media is more willing to air it out.
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Not the Babylon Bee
JUST IN - Liz Cheney is considering a third-party presidential bid "to stop Trump from winning" in 2024 — Axios pic.twitter.com/6oNGE3AncR
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 5, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/12/05/liz-cheney-considering-running-third-party-to-stop-trump-n2390506
She actually thinks she would be pulling votes away from Trump. :rofl:
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Not the Babylon Bee
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/12/05/liz-cheney-considering-running-third-party-to-stop-trump-n2390506
She actually thinks she would be pulling votes away from Trump. :rofl:
This is why we need the return of mental hospitals. If she doesn't do this, "Trump will make himself President for life".
She comes from the old "Republican royalty". It really makes me wonder if all the liberals who hated her father knew things that I didn't. These are not people who care about America. These are people who care about the establishment (both sides) status quo.
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Almost shocked some dem hasn't called for impeachment against Trump yet, you know, to get a head start on things
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Speaking of the circus, Nikki Haley's campaign bought my phone number from some list and started sending me text messages asking for money today.
[barf]
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Almost shocked some dem hasn't called for impeachment against Trump yet, you know, to get a head start on things
Does this count?
Keith Olbermann: Biden Should Invoke the Insurrection Act and Detain Trump
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/12/05/keith-olbermann-biden-should-invoke-the-insurrection-act-and-detain-trump-n2390526
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Speaking of the circus, Nikki Haley's campaign bought my phone number from some list and started sending me text messages asking for money today.
[barf]
I have been getting them from all the candidates for a while already. Delete an block. My block list has become a very long list of numbers.
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Apparently there was a fourth debate last night. Did anyone else know or care? Interesting primary season, with the front runner never having participated in a single debate.
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Apparently there was a fourth debate last night. Did anyone else know or care? Interesting primary season, with the front runner never having participated in a single debate.
I caught it this morning. Timcast did a MST3K style watch party as the podcast last night. Vivak went after Nikki with a vengeance. Christie was present, although he did get pretty angry with Vivek at one point. DeSantis did a decent job.
In one sense these are debates for second place. In another, there's a non zero chance that Trump will in fact get knocked out of the race by one of the attacks, or have a heart attack, or something, and the GOP will have to go to the JV squad.
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In one sense these are debates for second place. In another, there's a non zero chance that Trump will in fact get knocked out of the race by one of the attacks, or have a heart attack, or something, and the GOP will have to go to the JV squad.
True. It would be interesting to see which of the JVs the R voters go for if Trump is forced out due to the legal stuff. IMO, if Trump is out due to banana republic shenanigans, I think most angry voters will go for the one who is most Trump-like, just for spite if nothing else. I guess Either DeSantis or Vivek.
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I think the potential of a few 3rd party candidates are going to create a 2nd term for Biden (or Harris).
I can see Trump running 3rd party if he isn't the clear nominee.
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I think the potential of a few 3rd party candidates are going to create a 2nd term for Biden (or Harris).
That can go both ways. Which is why establishment dems are so pissed at Kennedy.
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That can go both ways. Which is why establishment dems are so pissed at Kennedy.
I don't think Kennedy appeals to mainstream democrats so much. The democrat voters he could reach probably already voted Trump in the past.
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That can go both ways. Which is why establishment dems are so pissed at Kennedy.
I think it favors the Democrats more. They do a good job of eating crow and voting for their anointed candidate.
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I don't think Kennedy appeals to mainstream democrats so much. The democrat voters he could reach probably already voted Trump in the past.
I'd agree he doesn't jive with most of the mainstream Ds - here's more of a Bernie analog. I'd disagree that many non-mainstream dems voted for Trump. If anything, they sat things out, which seems like a good possibility this time, as more and more mainstream dems seem to really be done with Biden.
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I think it favors the Democrats more. They do a good job of eating crow and voting for their anointed candidate.
The polling I've seen indicates the reverse.
True. It would be interesting to see which of the JVs the R voters go for if Trump is forced out due to the legal stuff. IMO, if Trump is out due to banana republic shenanigans, I think most angry voters will go for the one who is most Trump-like, just for spite if nothing else. I guess Either DeSantis or Vivek.
We could bring back Jeb!
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The polling I've seen indicates the reverse.
Now polling is to be trusted?
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Now polling is to be trusted?
Let me see if I can find some polling on that. I'll get back to you.
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I caught it this morning. Timcast did a MST3K style watch party as the podcast last night. Vivak went after Nikki with a vengeance. Christie was present, although he did get pretty angry with Vivek at one point. DeSantis did a decent job.
I didn't watch it. Didn't even realize it was happening until the next morning.
For any who watched it, would you say anyone won? I'm a bit surprised that Vivek was a participant. I haven't seen any mention of his name recently. I thought he had dropped out.
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Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Trump from 2024 ballot
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-supreme-court-disqualifies-trump-2024-ballot
The disqualification, which was made under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, is related to the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021.
The Tuesday ruling is stayed until January 4 because of likely appeals. Three justices on the Colorado Supreme Court dissented.
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I'm no Trump fan but I hope they enjoy their fifteen minutes of fame before this gets overturned.
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I really don't see how they can disqualify him, legally. He hasn't been convicted of "insurrection". Yet. And I don't think any J6 defendants have been of convicted of "insurrection" either. Not like it matters to the left.
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Here's the Babylon Bee
"I love democracy, and this is why we had to vote to overrule the millions of Colorado citizens who want to elect Trump through the democratic process," said Colorado Justice and white woman Melissa Hart after the vote. "Trump is a terrifying orange man and if he's elected he will likely grow to over 50 feet and rampage through the country killing people with his laser eyes. Our democracy is too precious for us to allow that to happen.
At publishing time, Trump had gained another 12% in Colorado polls.
Colorado Saves Democracy By Not Allowing People To Vote For Preferred Candidate
https://babylonbee.com/news/colorado-saves-democracy-by-not-allowing-people-to-vote-for-preferred-candidate
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Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Trump from 2024 ballot
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-supreme-court-disqualifies-trump-2024-ballot
Several years from now, when the shooting stops, things like this will be pointed to as the reason it started.
...that the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country;...
Both the courts and the elections are being visibly undermined and public confidence in them as institutions is falling. What do these idiots think comes next?
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Several years from now, when the shooting stops, things like this will be pointed to as the reason it started.
Both the courts and the elections are being visibly undermined and public confidence in them as institutions is falling. What do these idiots think comes next?
There isn't going to be a shooting war. People will puff out their chests, quote Fox News, and grumble on the Internets.
Also it kills the argument of let the courts decide when people say we don't need any regulations ans let people sue in court.
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Both the courts and the elections are being visibly undermined and public confidence in them as institutions is falling. What do these idiots think comes next?
If the idiots are upsetting you, whatever you do, don't peruse Reddit. Holy hell. The virtual, social media circle jerk is about 95% in giddy favor of this, and because of their echo chamber, they really think that everyone is. I despise Biden, but I can honestly say that I would be as outraged at this happening to him as I am with it happening to Trump (who I'm not crazy about).
It was interesting to see that every one of Trump's R rivals made strong statements condemning this. If what I saw is correct, 13 other states are looking to copy Colorado.
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It was interesting to see that every one of Trump's R rivals made strong statements condemning this. If what I saw is correct, 13 other states are looking to copy Colorado.
How many of those can you already count as Biden EC votes? 90%? 100%?
Things are going to get rather interesting if this is allowed to stand* and a good % of those other states follow suit and then Trump wins anyway
*Which I highly doubt
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How many of those can you already count as Biden EC votes? 90%? 100%?
No doubt, yet the totalitarian implications are frightening.
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No doubt, yet the totalitarian implications are frightening.
Absolutely, didn't mean to imply otherwise.
My point was even if this allowed to stand it may make almost zero different in the final outcome of the election vote wise. Reaction wise no matter which way it goes is an entirely different bag of angry cats
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Absolutely, didn't mean to imply otherwise.
My point was even if this allowed to stand it may make almost zero different in the final outcome of the election vote wise. Reaction wise no matter which way it goes is an entirely different bag of angry cats
Yup. If anything, it is once again giving Trump more support and more votes. The serious implications of what they're doing to the Republic aside, it's kind of comical that if they had just turned off the TDS after Biden got in, very likely, Trump wouldn't even be running now, let alone surging ahead of everyone, including Biden.
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My personal view is that this is going to backfire spectacularly on the dems.
Downside is that many on the left/dem side of things are now much more likely to go full on radical in the event of a Trump win.
Edit: corrected a misspell
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There isn't going to be a shooting war. People will puff out their chests, quote Fox News, and grumble on the Internets.
-Tsar Nicholas, Li Zongren, George III, Lon Nol, and Louis XVI, probably.
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Schiff is happy, shocker I know,
The Colorado Supreme Court just ruled Donald Trump is disqualified from the ballot — and from holding office — under the 14th Amendment.
Accountability for inciting an insurrection.
It’s about time.
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) December 20, 2023
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/12/20/adam-schiff-n2390984
Be careful what you wish for
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There isn't going to be a shooting war. People will puff out their chests, quote Fox News, and grumble on the Internets.
I certainly hope you're right, because the results of a shooting war would be horrific for everyone involved.
Interesting (but in no way surprising) that you can only entertain the idea that it would start on the right, though.
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I think we're pretty surely headed into violence, and probably in less than 5 or 6 years. I just don't see anyone that could trying to take an offramp.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a "Civil War", but something like the summer of 2020 ramped up 3 or 4 times with some groups branching out into political violence like knock-off Nights of medium length knives. Throw in a government that is regionally going off the rails arresting and jailing people and you just get very dangerous, long term civil unrest with political violence overtones. And a distinct breakdown of law and order in most cities.
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I think we're pretty surely headed into violence, and probably in less than 5 or 6 years. I just don't see anyone that could trying to take an offramp.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a "Civil War", but something like the summer of 2020 ramped up 3 or 4 times with some groups branching out into political violence like knock-off Nights of medium length knives. Throw in a government that is regionally going off the rails arresting and jailing people and you just get very dangerous, long term civil unrest with political violence overtones. And a distinct breakdown of law and order in most cities.
That is depressingly plausible.
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I certainly hope you're right, because the results of a shooting war would be horrific for everyone involved.
Interesting (but in no way surprising) that you can only entertain the idea that it would start on the right, though.
Yeah, if Trump wins the left will be the ones to kick it off. If Trump loses, the left is likely to go after Trump voters, not just his donors, lawyers, etc. While they may or may not initiate violence directly they will, deliberately, make the situation such that at least some on the right see no alternative to violence.
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I think we're pretty surely headed into violence, and probably in less than 5 or 6 years. I just don't see anyone that could trying to take an offramp.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a "Civil War", but something like the summer of 2020 ramped up 3 or 4 times with some groups branching out into political violence like knock-off Nights of medium length knives. Throw in a government that is regionally going off the rails arresting and jailing people and you just get very dangerous, long term civil unrest with political violence overtones. And a distinct breakdown of law and order in most cities.
I fear right around the corner as in 2024 if things don't go a certain way as in if Trump wins or even sooner if it appears he will likely win.
Could even come from the right in response to the left and/or if votes for the D start appearing out of thin air at 3am again. The left could even do this openly in the hopes it will trigger the right hoping this allows them to start the govt crackdown they've been wet dreaming about.
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Enter Joe Biden
Biden says there's 'no question' Trump engaged in an insurrection in his first response to Colorado disqualification as Republicans threaten to take Joe off their state ballots as revenge
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12886597/Biden-says-theres-no-question-Trump-engaged-insurrection-response-Colorado-disqualification-Republicans-threaten-Joe-state-ballots-revenge.html
Could Trump sue him for libel?
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Enter Joe Biden
Biden says there's 'no question' Trump engaged in an insurrection in his first response to Colorado disqualification as Republicans threaten to take Joe off their state ballots as revenge
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12886597/Biden-says-theres-no-question-Trump-engaged-insurrection-response-Colorado-disqualification-Republicans-threaten-Joe-state-ballots-revenge.html
Could Trump sue him for libel?
The "actual malice" part is a very hard thing to prove, and would apply since both are obviously "public figures". Unless there's a recording or email or similar showing even Biden knew "insurrection" was bovine scat, he can just say "it was what we honestly believed at the time".
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Colorado GOP says they'll switch to a caucus if Trump's disqualification stands:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/colorado-republican-party-to-change-to-caucus-system-ditch-primary-if-trump-kept-off-ballot-5550307
(this thread is aptly named)
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Here's Ted Lieu
The Colorado trial court HELD A TRIAL and made rock solid findings of fact that Trump “engaged in insurrection.” SCOTUS would not have any basis to overrule the findings.
The only way SCOTUS can overturn is to make the perverse ruling that Presidents can engage in insurrection. https://t.co/6ehpE7CWxp
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 20, 2023
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/12/20/rep-ted-lieu-claims-co-supreme-court-held-a-trial-and-convicted-trump-so-scotus-wont-overturn-n2390999
Anyone here remember a trial where Trump was convicted of engaging in insurrection? Yeah me neither
Yeah, he's an idiot
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California Lt. Gov. @EleniForCA writes to Secretary of State Shirley Weber to “explore every legal option to remove former President Donald Trump from California’s 2024 presidential primary ballot.”
Letter here: pic.twitter.com/HoGZdjLmNy
— Christopher Cadelago (@ccadelago) December 20, 2023
https://twitchy.com/coucy/2023/12/20/california-lt-governor-n2390995
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Nobody was charged with insurrection or treason let alone found guilty.
This country is obviously mostly populated with liars and morons.
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I certainly hope you're right, because the results of a shooting war would be horrific for everyone involved.
Interesting (but in no way surprising) that you can only entertain the idea that it would start on the right, though.
I don't see Biden being kicked off a primary ticket, so why would the left get upset? Maybe if Trump wins and enough of them beat the stolen election drum like the Trump people did in 2020?
There are some Trump supporters that truly think if he isn't elected that their lives are over because the Liberals are going to take everything. I have to listen to every time I go to into my office, one of my coworkers seriously thinks the day after Biden is re-elected that government men with firearms are going to kick down her door and take her house and small farm from her family the next day. Everyone is going to get their property confiscated. She is dead serious. Remember I work as a public employee on the government dime, and so do they.
I despise Trump with all of my very existence, and I hope he gets his ass handed to him in all the primaries and caucuses.
I do think the Colorado Courts *expletive deleted*ed the pooch hard on this one.
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… why would the left get upset?
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Is that a trick question?
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Is that a trick question?
Upset Biden is not being booted off ballots is what I said. Don't read any further into than that.
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I don't see Biden being kicked off a primary ticket, so why would the left get upset? Maybe if Trump wins and enough of them beat the stolen election drum like the Trump people did in 2020?
There are some Trump supporters that truly think if he isn't elected that their lives are over because the Liberals are going to take everything. I have to listen to every time I go to into my office, one of my coworkers seriously thinks the day after Biden is re-elected that government men with firearms are going to kick down her door and take her house and small farm from her family the next day. Everyone is going to get their property confiscated. She is dead serious. Remember I work as a public employee on the government dime, and so do they.
I despise Trump with all of my very existence, and I hope he gets his ass handed to him in all the primaries and caucuses.
I do think the Colorado Courts *expletive deleted*ed the pooch hard on this one.
Left-wing leadership is already taking things away, but gradually, so people like you accept it. (Through inflation, regulation, etc.) Your coworkers may not be quite correct, but it sounds like they see very real possibilities you refuse to.
I sympathize. I don't want to see them either.
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Left-wing leadership is already taking things away, but gradually, so people like you accept it. (Through inflation, regulation, etc.) Your coworkers may not be quite correct, but it sounds like they see very real possibilities you refuse to.
I sympathize. I don't want to see them either.
Biggest thing that has taken things away from me was the Patriot Act of 2001. Mostly voted for by right-wing. So, I'm going to disagree.
We're all going to be getting *expletive deleted*ed by Trumps Tax Law in the next couple of years, yep voted for by right-wing leadership again.
Three biggest deficit recent spending administrations. GW Bush, BH Obama, and DJ Trump. 2/3 are right wing. That is the cause of the inflation, devalue the currency in excessive spending.
No one is coming to take your house, no one is coming to shut down your church, no one is taking away your freedom of speech, well I guess the GOP did with the Patriot Act.
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The actions of the Colorado Supreme Court remind me of the Iranian mullahs who only let the candidates they approve of appear on the ballot in their so-called "elections."
OK, let's say Trump is taken off the ballot in Colorado and a couple of other states.
What happens - that is, what do the lefties do - when the House refuses to certify the vote counts from those states?
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The actions of the Colorado Supreme Court remind me of the Iranian mullahs who only let the candidates they approve of appear on the ballot in their so-called "elections."
OK, let's say Trump is taken off the ballot in Colorado and a couple of other states.
What happens - that is, what do the lefties do - when the House refuses to certify the vote counts from those states?
Charge those legislators with insurrection and remove them office.
Or shoot them.
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Biggest thing that has taken things away from me was the Patriot Act of 2001. Mostly voted for by right-wing. So, I'm going to disagree.
We're all going to be getting *expletive deleted*ed by Trumps Tax Law in the next couple of years, yep voted for by right-wing leadership again.
Three biggest deficit recent spending administrations. GW Bush, BH Obama, and DJ Trump. 2/3 are right wing. That is the cause of the inflation, devalue the currency in excessive spending.
No one is coming to take your house, no one is coming to shut down your church, no one is taking away your freedom of speech, well I guess the GOP did with the Patriot Act.
You're certainly quite wrong about those last few items. About home ownership, I may be misinformed, but hasn't there been a noticeable decline in home ownership for younger people? As with firearms, taking away what people already have is not the whole story. If you're willing to go deeper than the shallow analysis you've offered, there is more to it. Making it harder for new people to acquire homes or guns is just as important, even if it's not flashy enough to suit your rhetoric.
Churches were shut down all over the country, and many never recovered. The last I heard, California is still going after the churches that wouldn't surrender their rights (and their Christian duties). So you picked a bad example there. But again, church closures are just the more dramatic side of things. The Left mainly deals with churches by infiltrating and poisoning them; the same "long march" they use with other institutions.
As for freedom of speech, you're really into some hardcore gaslighting on that one. Team Biden and multiple federal agencies spent years directing social media on what and whom to censor. They're probably still at it. The Left is absolutely salivating at the chance to overrule Citizens United, and they've primed college students to accept (or really, demand) laws against so-called hate speech. Those are just the highlights.
As for the rest of your response, you're confusing Democrat & Republican with Left & Right. I blamed the Left; not the DNC. Nor am I claiming the GOP is blameless. No one is.
You're also pretending that only the GOP supports the Patriot Act. I mean, really?
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No one is coming to take your house, no one is coming to shut down your church, no one is taking away your freedom of speech, well I guess the GOP did with the Patriot Act.
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You're certainly quite wrong about those last few items. About home ownership, I may be misinformed, but hasn't there been a noticeable decline in home ownership for younger people? As with firearms, taking away what people already have is not the whole story. If you're willing to go deeper than the shallow analysis you've offered, there is more to it. Making it harder for new people to acquire homes or guns is just as important, even if it's not flashy enough to suit your rhetoric.
I didn't say anything about guns, don't add things that aren't in my argument.
Decline in home ownership? That isn't a political problem that is an economic problem. Everything from supply and demand, income over time has not kept up with inflation, etc. People in exiting houses are not selling and moving because they took advantage of the lower interest rates from that were extended past the time needed.
Churches were shut down all over the country, and many never recovered. The last I heard, California is still going after the churches that wouldn't surrender their rights (and their Christian duties). So you picked a bad example there. But again, church closures are just the more dramatic side of things. The Left mainly deals with churches by infiltrating and poisoning them; the same "long march" they use with other institutions.
The churches around me that have shut down is due to either declining membership (such as kids are moving away for career opportunities) or the membership had a division of beliefs, and each side went elsewhere (I see this more in independent self-governed churches). Or just financial reasons, don't generate enough money to keep the lights and heat on.
Point to a credible source, not twitchy, not a pundit, not some website, but an actual real news article that has a church being shut down by the government for doing their "Christian duties". Not for tax invasion, fraud, pedophile, polygamy, etc. but actually in the course of their "Christian duties".
As for freedom of speech, you're really into some hardcore gaslighting on that one. Team Biden and multiple federal agencies spent years directing social media on what and whom to censor. They're probably still at it. The Left is absolutely salivating at the chance to overrule Citizens United, and they've primed college students to accept (or really, demand) laws against so-called hate speech. Those are just the highlights.
I want to see an actual credible example of a public university or college that is actually indoctrinating students via directive from the administration. Don't include private schools, we already know that there are left (American University) and right (such as faith based, like Oral Roberts) private colleges and universities that are very open about their mission and political leanings.
As for the rest of your response, you're confusing Democrat & Republican with Left & Right. I blamed the Left; not the DNC. Nor am I claiming the GOP is blameless. No one is.
GOP is the right. Last time I checked there isn't a viable right winged third party.
You're also pretending that only the GOP supports the Patriot Act. I mean, really?
I'm going off the original Act and votes in House, Senate, and POTUS. GOP has had the majority since the act passed and haven't over turned it.
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Point to a credible source, not twitchy, not a pundit, not some website, but an actual real news article that has a church being shut down by the government for doing their "Christian duties". Not for tax invasion, fraud, pedophile, polygamy, etc. but actually in the course of their "Christian duties".
Reuters: CA Shuts down churches during pandemic. (https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN24E2OV/)
NBC: Pastor arrested for holding services (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-pastor-arrested-after-holding-church-services-despite-coronavirus-orders-n1172276)(2020, so Trump can have some credit for this one)
Baltimore Sun: Church closed by health department (https://www.baltimoresun.com/2021/03/18/baltimore-closed-a-church-for-covid-violations-it-held-a-service-anyway-and-its-pastor-argued-against-masks/)
Pretty sure that holding services and fellowship is considered a "Christian Duty" by most denominations.
I want to see an actual credible example of a public university or college that is actually indoctrinating students via directive from the administration. Don't include private schools, we already know that there are left (American University) and right (such as faith based, like Oral Roberts) private colleges and universities that are very open about their mission and political leanings.
How about the directives themselves?
https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/fact-sheet-us-department-educations-proposed-change-its-title-ix-regulations-students-eligibility-athletic-teams#:~:text=The%20Title%20IX%20regulations%2C%20since,talents%2C%20capacities%2C%20and%20preferences.
https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/ocr-factsheet-tvi-dia-202301.pdf
^^That one has a link to get Administration funding to facilitate indoctrination
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Reuters: CA Shuts down churches during pandemic. (https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN24E2OV/)
NBC: Pastor arrested for holding services (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-pastor-arrested-after-holding-church-services-despite-coronavirus-orders-n1172276)(2020, so Trump can have some credit for this one)
Baltimore Sun: Church closed by health department (https://www.baltimoresun.com/2021/03/18/baltimore-closed-a-church-for-covid-violations-it-held-a-service-anyway-and-its-pastor-argued-against-masks/)
Pretty sure that holding services and fellowship is considered a "Christian Duty" by most denominations.
How about the directives themselves?
https://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/fact-sheet-us-department-educations-proposed-change-its-title-ix-regulations-students-eligibility-athletic-teams#:~:text=The%20Title%20IX%20regulations%2C%20since,talents%2C%20capacities%2C%20and%20preferences.
https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/ocr-factsheet-tvi-dia-202301.pdf
^^That one has a link to get Administration funding to facilitate indoctrination
All businesses in those states were subject to the Covid mandates, not just churches.
Title IX is related to Atheletics not Academia.
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No one is coming to take your house, no one is coming to shut down your church, no one is taking away your freedom of speech, well I guess the GOP did with the Patriot Act.
I don't know if you considered this, but I know college professors at public universities are being fired or otherwise punished if their speech or research is un pc.
https://www.thefire.org/news/report-least-111-professors-targeted-their-speech-2021
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All businesses in those states were subject to the Covid mandates, not just churches.
Bars and Walmart weren't. Regardless you didn't say "only churches" you said "Show me where .gov shut down churches." Stories provided as asked.
Title IX is related to Atheletics not Academia.
The first link is the Department of Education fact sheet on applying Title IX to Academia. Fit's your request. The second link is Title VI, again specifically applying DEI to Academia and offering funding to apply it more effectively.
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No one is coming to take your house, no one is coming to shut down your church, no one is taking away your freedom of speech, well I guess the GOP did with the Patriot Act.
Owen Troyer and Enrique Tarrio to the white courtesy phone please.
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I don't know if you considered this, but I know college professors at public universities are being fired or otherwise punished if their speech or research is un pc.
https://www.thefire.org/news/report-least-111-professors-targeted-their-speech-2021
So I dug into the report the article linked to. One of the examples was from the U of Rhode Island firing a faculty member for criticizing the schools policy on diversity and that it wasn't being diverse as it said it was. I guess that university fits the right wing agenda on diversity.
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Owen Troyer and Enrique Tarrio to the white courtesy phone please.
Are those civil cases, aka defamation lawsuits?
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Are those civil cases, aka defamation lawsuits?
Seriously?!?
You gleefully posted about these guys getting their outrageously long prison terms when the sentences came down.
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Bars and Walmart weren't. Regardless you didn't say "only churches" you said "Show me where .gov shut down churches." Stories provided as asked.
The first link is the Department of Education fact sheet on applying Title IX to Academia. Fit's your request. The second link is Title VI, again specifically applying DEI to Academia and offering funding to apply it more effectively.
Yes it's to Dept of Ed.
Title VI is related to 64 Civil Rights Act.
How about an example of church that was shut down and assets confiscated by the government for refusing entry to a trans or homosexual?
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In my experience when someone authoritatively states “nO oNe iS tAKinG aWAy…” they are lying like hell
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Seriously?!?
You gleefully posted about these guys getting their outrageously long prison terms when the sentences came down.
Sorry I can't remember everyone's name and how the government wronged them. I was thinking they were involved in one of the Alex Jones defamation lawsuit.
Tarrio was found guilty by a jury trial for sedicious conspiracy. I'm sorry if you think leftist groups aren't getting the same treatment, but you're young enough to go back to school for 3 years, get your JD, pass the Bar Exam and form a practice to go after the leftists.
Shroyer plead guilty to a misdemeanor for trespassing in a restricted area.
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Yes it's to Dept of Ed.
Title VI is related to 64 Civil Rights Act.
How about an example of church that was shut down and assets confiscated by the government for refusing entry to a trans or homosexual?
Way to shift the goal posts.
There's a much longer response I'd love to type but I don't have time. I'm sure one of the other capable folks here will explain all that is wrong (besides goal post shifting) with that post.
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Lets get back to what's important here....The Babylon Bee! :P
Colorado Supreme Court Demands Jack Phillips Bake Cake To Celebrate Trump Ruling
https://babylonbee.com/news/colorado-supreme-court-demands-jack-phillips-bake-cake-to-celebrate-trump-ruling
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Almost 70% of the incidents came from individuals and groups to the political left of the scholar, compared to 30% that came from the right of the scholar.
;)
Apropos of nothing, while I enjoy a good debate, any discussion requires agreement that provable facts are fundamental to the discussion. Sometimes an interlocutor suffers from such intense ideological possession that they don't overly concern themselves with veracity when proposing or rejecting foundational assumptions. When inconvenient evidence is presented, such a conversation partner dismisses it as irrelevant, changes their claims, or ignores it outright.
It is impossible to carry on a productive discourse with such a person.
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I guess that university fits the right wing agenda on diversity.
The report does detail university suppression of professors speech, like I said.
Here are some other examples:
Jeffrey Goldhagen — Goldhagen was forbidden by the university administration from providing pro bono expert witness testimony in a lawsuit challenging the governor’s ban on school mask mandates.
University of Illinois, Chicago — Jason Kilborn — Kilborn was suspended after a student complaint about an exam question that presented expurgated racial and misogynistic slurs.
University of Michigan — Bright Sheng — Sheng resigned from teaching amid student backlash over showing the 1965 film version of “Othello,” in which a white actor appears in blackface. He was subsequently reinstated.
University of Rhode Island — Louis Kwame Fosu — Fosu was suspended and later terminated after criticizing the university’s success at promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion, and saying that the university practiced “de facto Jim Crow racism” in its hiring and promotion. Fosu was subsequently reinstated.
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Tarrio was found guilty by a jury trial for sedicious conspiracy. I'm sorry if you think leftist groups aren't getting the same treatment, but you're young enough to go back to school for 3 years, get your JD, pass the Bar Exam and form a practice to go after the leftists.
Shroyer plead guilty to a misdemeanor for trespassing in a restricted area.
This is either dishonest or willfully ignorant. The AUSA in both cases was clearly vocal that they were pursuing charges based on the political speech of the men in question. You'd have to be actively avoiding the case to have missed it.
Related, the DOJ is also charging Steve Baker, a credentialed journalist, for crimes "Related to his activities on Jan 6". As a journalist he was one of several covering the riot and the DOJ has decided that his coverage no longer deserves 1A protection.
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Almost 70% of the incidents came from individuals and groups to the political left of the scholar, compared to 30% that came from the right of the scholar.
While agreeing that's a slippery number to pin down I feel I can safely say which side of that got 90+% of media coverage.
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Yes it's to Dept of Ed.
Title VI is related to 64 Civil Rights Act.
How about an example of church that was shut down and assets confiscated by the government for refusing entry to a trans or homosexual?
Are you seriously arguing that the Federal Department of Education's policies on how they will apply Federal Law to colleges has no relation to Academia?
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This is either dishonest or willfully ignorant. The AUSA in both cases was clearly vocal that they were pursuing charges based on the political speech of the men in question. You'd have to be actively avoiding the case to have missed it.
Related, the DOJ is also charging Steve Baker, a credentialed journalist, for crimes "Related to his activities on Jan 6". As a journalist he was one of several covering the riot and the DOJ has decided that his coverage no longer deserves 1A protection.
I'm sorry I don't see what you're seeing, probably won't either.
Also the what about this rebuttal is getting old in arguments.
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Are you seriously arguing that the Federal Department of Education's policies on how they will apply Federal Law to colleges has no relation to Academia?
Then post a 100% academia only rule from Dept of Ed that forces students to be endoctorinated in leftist ideals of the won't graduate.
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What "what about this"?
You said the government is not silencing people for speech. I provided two recent examples where the government said, in court, that they were criminally procecuteing people because of their speech. The attempted jailing of a journalist was just a bonus topic since it's 1A related.
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Then post a 100% academia only rule from Dept of Ed that forces students to be endoctorinated in leftist ideals of the won't graduate.
Are you serious? Or am I missing some kind of deep cut sarcasm due to text only communication?
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The problem with Charby's arguments in this thread is that he makes a claim, it gets refuted, and he then changes it so it would have to be refuted again, and tries to make it impossible to refute by demanding a proof based on a very narrow and intentionally obtuse criteria.
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The problem with Charby's arguments in this thread is that he makes a claim, it gets refuted, and he then changes it so it would have to be refuted again, and tries to make it impossible to refute by demanding a proof based on a very narrow and intentionally obtuse criteria.
Because the examples given are weak as *expletive deleted*ck in the agreement.
Just yelling Fire in a crowded movie theater is not protected by the 1st Amendment.
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BS.
You said "the government is not closing churches" I provided multiple examples of the government closing churches, so you shifted to closing churchs for denying TG entry and seixing assets which wasn't the initial argument.
You said that the public universities were not indoctronating students via directive from the federal government. I provided two directives from the federal government to public universities on how they had to include indoctrination under federal law. You then shifted to a nebulous "not Acadamia" and some bullshit demand for an explicit memo or some *expletive deleted*it.
You said no one is taking away your freedom of speech and I provided two criminal cases where the prosecutor explicitly told the court the defendants had been charged because of their political speech. They literally said in Troyer's case that his political speech on his podcast was the reason they were seeking tougher sentencing. Your excuse there was....You didn't see it? I guess you didn't read the charging and sentencing docs when they were released.
The only thing weak as *expletive deleted*ck is your "Blame the GOP" game. And that's coming from a libertarian that hasn't voted for a major party candidate this century, and routinely stumps for undermining and destroying the two party system.
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BS.
You said "the government is not closing churches" I provided multiple examples of the government closing churches, so you shifted to closing churchs for denying TG entry and seixing assets which wasn't the initial argument.
I'm sorry closing due to a pandemic is far different than having to close their doors permanently. I guess the churches of California are a bunch of luddites, because the churches here went to a streaming services pretty shortly after the no gathering of large groups was verbotten by our Republican Governor.
You said that the public universities were not indoctronating students via directive from the federal government. I provided two directives from the federal government to public universities on how they had to include indoctrination under federal law. You then shifted to a nebulous "not Acadamia" and some bullshit demand for an explicit memo or some *expletive deleted*it.
I don't agree with your examples, they were memos of clarification under the existing laws. The whole transgender thing is new territory, just like women in sports and integration of schools in the past. People are making the same arguments against transgenderism, like the people of the past did for women and integration.
You said no one is taking away your freedom of speech and I provided two criminal cases where the prosecutor explicitly told the court the defendants had been charged because of their political speech. They literally said in Troyer's case that his political speech on his podcast was the reason they were seeking tougher sentencing. Your excuse there was....You didn't see it? I guess you didn't read the charging and sentencing docs when they were released.
Perhaps use examples people that weren't part of an insurrection, you may not call it that, but I believe than Jan 6 was an insurrection. That being said, all sides *expletive deleted*ed up that day.
The only thing weak as *expletive deleted*ck is your "Blame the GOP" game. And that's coming from a libertarian that hasn't voted for a major party candidate this century, and routinely stumps for undermining and destroying the two party system.
I blame the democrats, that is too easy on here. There is just that some major *expletive deleted*it that was all GOP is going to keep *expletive deleted*ing us for a while that no one wants to talk about.
FYI, media is now starting to quote posts from BBS type right leaning websites like this one on statements made against decisions, granted they aren't mentioning sites or usernames, yet. Still have the right to say whatever you want, but it maybe front page news.
Example:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/colorado-justices-face-flood-threats-disqualifying-trump-ballot-rcna130720
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Perhaps use examples people that weren't part of an insurrection, you may not call it that, but I believe than Jan 6 was an insurrection. That being said, all sides *expletive deleted*ed up that day.
If this is sincere and not just internet message board hyperbole, then you are severely disconnected from reality.
Good evening, Sir.
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If this is sincere and not just internet message board hyperbole, then you are severely disconnected from reality.
Good evening, Sir.
Oh, I'm as sincere as a heart attack.
Good evening to you to, Sir.
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Jan 6 was more along the lines of the uniparty creating another pretense for consolidating their power, further disenfranchising Heritage Americans and their allies.
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I want to see an actual credible example of a public university or college that is actually indoctrinating students via directive from the administration. Don't include private schools, we already know that there are left (American University) and right (such as faith based, like Oral Roberts) private colleges and universities that are very open about their mission and political leanings.
I didn't say that colleges indoctrinating students was a violation of free speech. Don't add things that aren't in my argument! :old:
What I spoke of was the threat to free speech, now that many voters believe they can end-run the first amendment with hate speech laws. Remember, you were talking about what your coworkers think may happen in the future. I'm pointing out some reasons why they are not as off-base as you think. Regardless of whether government did the indoctrination, there will be violation of free speech when government can control speech through hate-speech laws.
Also, you don't seem to be denying that government was caught red-handed using social media as a form of censorship, which was my first example. https://twitterfiles.substack.com/p/1-thread-the-twitter-files
Just another reason your coworkers are justified in worrying about their right to free speech. Speaking of the Twitter Files, and since you want us all to cite chapter and verse, do you have examples of how the Patriot Act has affected your right to free speech, or the free speech of ordinary Americans in a way that is more damaging than what the Twitter Files has exposed, or than the examples dogmush just provided? I don't know the answer to that question. I'm just curious.
I didn't say anything about guns, don't add things that aren't in my argument.
Decline in home ownership? That isn't a political problem that is an economic problem. Everything from supply and demand, income over time has not kept up with inflation, etc. People in exiting houses are not selling and moving because they took advantage of the lower interest rates from that were extended past the time needed.
Don't add things that aren't in your argument? Like recent events you pretend aren't happening? I was making a parallel that even you should be able to relate to. Anyway, good luck trying to argue that economics is not part of, and deeply affected by, politics.
The churches around me that have shut down is due to either declining membership (such as kids are moving away for career opportunities) or the membership had a division of beliefs, and each side went elsewhere (I see this more in independent self-governed churches). Or just financial reasons, don't generate enough money to keep the lights and heat on.
Point to a credible source, not twitchy, not a pundit, not some website, but an actual real news article that has a church being shut down by the government for doing their "Christian duties". Not for tax invasion, fraud, pedophile, polygamy, etc. but actually in the course of their "Christian duties".
"An actual, real news article" - :laugh:. Yeah, 'cuz perfeshenul jurnalsts in 2023 are so much more credible than "some website." :rofl:
Perhaps I should have explained this more in my earlier post, as I forget that most people are unaware of such things. Yes, of course churches close down from time to time. That's clearly not what I was talking about. I specifically spoke of churches that were shut down, some of them permanently, by the Left-wing over-reaction to covid that saw churches as less essential than bars, race riots, and casinos. Don't add those other causes of church shut-down to my argument. :old:
The point is, governments forced some churches to close, and sometimes fined those which did not close. And no, live-streaming does not change the fact that governments at various levels demonstrated they were willing to shut down churches in the United States. And you don't think it's realistic for people to worry about their churches being closed down on some other pretext? Did you miss the fact the FBI was spying on Catholics, because they're Catholic? Or all the fear-mongering about "Christian nationalism"?
Here are a few links to some stories about how covid scare-mongering shut down, and may have permanently harmed some churches. Note especially the quotation from the ABC News article (an actual, real news article!!). Church attendance does not seem to have recovered to pre-pandemic levels. Not all churches can survive that kind of hit.
https://religionnews.com/2023/01/05/more-americans-stay-away-from-church-as-pandemic-nears-year-three/
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/january-web-only/attendance-decline-covid-pandemic-church.html
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-pandemic-forces-nationwide-reckoning-american-churches/story?id=82448256
While some churches are now experiencing more of their parishioners returning to the pews, others have had no choice but to close their doors permanently.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/03/22/more-houses-of-worship-are-returning-to-normal-operations-but-in-person-attendance-is-unchanged-since-fall/
(Also, FWIW, Christians are commanded to "forsake not the gathering of themselves together." Screentime is not gathering. Communion/Eucharist can't be done virtually. Zoom church is helpful, and my church live-streams its services, but these cannot replace the real thing.)
GOP is the right. Last time I checked there isn't a viable right winged third party.
I'm going off the original Act and votes in House, Senate, and POTUS. GOP has had the majority since the act passed and haven't over turned it.
Don't add party labels to my argument. :old:
Leftism is still leftism, regardless which party does it. And the Democratic Party hasn't tried to overturn the Patriot Act either.
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Here we go…GOP state lawmakers file legislation to remove Biden from the ballot in 3 states, claiming he’s guilty of aiding an ‘insurrection’ at the border & citing his family’s foreign business dealings. They explicitly say their goal is to “showcase the absurdity” of Colorado: pic.twitter.com/A0fArAlsti
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) December 22, 2023
GOP State Lawmakers File to Remove Biden From the Ballot in THREE STATES and Lefties Can't DEEEAL
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/12/22/ha-and-here-we-go-gop-lawmakers-move-to-remove-biden-from-ballot-in-three-states-n2391074
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lots of stuff
Arguing with Professor Weston while on Perelandra is fruitless.
There may be some utility as an exorcise to hone your arguments, but that's about all.
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Arguing with Professor Weston while on Perelandra is fruitless.
There may be some utility as an exorcise to hone your arguments, but that's about all.
I dig the reference. Sometimes I just like to slap down some stupid. Don't we all?
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needs more walls
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How about around all the big cities?
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Here's something from Twitchy, everyone's favorite source for real news articles, about a Republican Congressman who thinks it's beyond debate that "hate speech" is not protected by the first amendment.
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2023/12/24/gop-congressman-tweets-deletes-clueless-take-on-the-first-amendment-but-we-got-it-n2391140
In his defense, it probably is true that first-year law students learn that, in 2023.
But don't worry, folks. There's no such thing as an adjustable "Overton" window of acceptable ideas. That's just crazy talk.
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Most of this is in their VIP section but apparently Cenk Uygur plans on suing to get around the natural born requirement in the constitution to be president
Case law is clear. Naturalized citizens can run for President: "Schneider is clear that treating natural born citizens and naturalized citizens differently is contrary to the Fifth Amendment. Forbidding naturalized citizens from being president or vice president is a form of…
— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) October 12, 2023
Winning this case in the Supreme Court is going to get rid of the albtatross around the neck of 25 million Americans who are naturalized citizens. The Supreme Court has already said we have the same exact rights. https://t.co/JdRkmvU9Cy
— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) October 12, 2023
Circus indeed
A Deep Dive Into Why Cenk Uygur Can Never Be President (Thank G-d)—and Other Constitutional Issues
https://twitchy.com/aaronwalker/2023/12/25/a-deep-dive-into-why-cenk-uygur-can-never-be-president-thank-g-dand-other-constitutional-issues-n2391125
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Colorado blinks and Trump is back on the ballot...for now
Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswol announced that Trump will for the time being remain on the ballot, which goes to print on January 5 – unless the Supreme Court affirms the lower court's ruling or otherwise declines to take on the appeal.
Can a state Secretary of State override that state's SC?
Colorado Secretary of State says Trump is BACK on the ballot unless the Supreme Court rules he should be disqualified
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12907741/Trump-Colorado-ballot-unless-Supreme-Court-disqualifies.html
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The Colorado Supreme Court put a stay on its ruling pending a ruling by the SCOTUS. The Colorado GOP has an appeal before SCOTUS at the moment.
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The Colorado Supreme Court put a stay on its ruling pending a ruling by the SCOTUS. The Colorado GOP has an appeal before SCOTUS at the moment.
So SCOTUS could just ignore the appeal until 2025 and Trump will remain on the ballot.
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Now Maine wants attention
But note the underlined
Bellows, a Democrat, concluded that Trump, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination in 2024, incited an insurrection when he spread false claims about voter fraud in the 2020 election and then urged his supporters to march on the Capitol to stop lawmakers from certifying the vote.
Bellows suspended her decision until the state Supreme Court ruled on the matter.
The decision came after a group of former Maine lawmakers said that Trump should be disqualified based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment - a provision of the U.S. Constitution that bars people from holding office if they engaged in 'insurrection or rebellion' after previously swearing an oath to the United States.
The ruling, which can be appealed to a state court, applies only to the March primary election, but it could affect Trump's status for the November general election.
Now MAINE tries to dump Trump: Secretary of state rules Donald is NOT eligible for election ballot - just hours after Colorado put him BACK in the 2024 primary
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12908343/maine-donald-trump-disqualified-ballot-2024-election-insurrection.html
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I just read this morning that California will NOT remove Trump from the ballot. Obviously in CA it wouldn't matter either way, but it looks like somebody with an ounce of brains realized that with there being no chance that Trump would win CA (Yay Electoral College, I guess?) they would only be throwing taxpayer money away to defend a social gesture.
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they would only be throwing taxpayer money away to defend a social gesture.
Since when has that ever stopped them? I will be shocked if CA doesn't announce Trump's removal from the ballot in the near future.
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They are all just waiting on the bandwagon to get moving. They thought Colorado started it, but no.
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Banning Trump from the ballot will make him more popular in my opinion.
I thought he had no chance of winning, but now I am definitely second guessing that. My track record of election predictions is terrible in any case, so maybe that is a bad thing.
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Banning Trump from the ballot will make him more popular in my opinion.
Exactly. And as I've posted here before, I'm unsure if dems really are that stupid that they can't see the correlation, or if they are playing, at this point, 787 dimensional chess that I simply don't understand.
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Exactly. And as I've posted here before, I'm unsure if dems really are that stupid that they can't see the correlation, or if they are playing, at this point, 787 dimensional chess that I simply don't understand.
People often do stupid things when they panic and I'm detecting panic on the dem side at the mere thought of Trump even having the slightest chance of winning again
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People often do stupid things when they panic and I'm detecting panic on the dem side at the mere though Trump even has the slightest chance of winning again
There is indeed a lot of panic and fear among the lefties in their main haven of Reddit lol
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As we get closer I think they're going to totally lose their minds and start throwing everything including the kitchen sink at him and even stop giving the rule of law even what mere lip service they have been giving it. Democracy must be saved!
We ain't seen nothing yet.
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Now Maine wants attention
But note the underlined
Now MAINE tries to dump Trump: Secretary of state rules Donald is NOT eligible for election ballot - just hours after Colorado put him BACK in the 2024 primary
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12908343/maine-donald-trump-disqualified-ballot-2024-election-insurrection.html
More on that Maine SOG
Shortly after taking office, Bellows penned an op-ed for a progressive platform known as the Democracy Docket. In her writing, titled "Voting Rights for Our Neighbors Matter As Much as Our Own," Bellows touted her efforts to make "voting more accessible" and said she sought the position of secretary of state in Maine because she "was truly frightened for our democracy" following the 2020 presidential election.
Bellows also took aim at the Electoral College in her column, claiming it is "the relic of white supremacy" that prevents voters from being represented fairly.
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/12/30/maine-secretary-of-state-called-the-electoral-college-a-relic-of-white-supremacy-n2391251
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maine-secretary-state-house-swatted-trump-ballot-disqualification-decision
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Bellows also took aim at the Electoral College in her column, claiming it is "the relic of white supremacy" that prevents voters from being represented fairly.
Ummm ... I think that was sort of the point. Just as the Constitution originally didn't call for senators to be elected directly.
Some people should be forced to study the history of our government before they're allowed to run for elected office.
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The news reads like we are living in a country occupied by its enemies.
We're currently being invaded with the approval of "our" government.
The laws of the land are ignored, changed and discarded even up to the level of the founding document.
The heritage peoples from the founding of the nation are increasingly being disenfranchised.
The heritage culture, mores, norms and religious traditions are and have been under attack as being opposed to the (new) laws of the land.
The wealth of the nation has been hollowed out through financialization and globalism.
Nearly everyone and every institution is in servitude to their debt.
Most children and youth are under the authority and tutelage of the occupying government for more waking hours of the day than they are with their parent(s).
The youth are increasingly being taught to hate the history of the nation.
Many of the founding principles of the nation have been expanded to the point of inversion where they now mean the opposite of the original intent.
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Ummm ... I think that was sort of the point. Just as the Constitution originally didn't call for senators to be elected directly.
Some people should be forced to study the history of our government before they're allowed to run for elected office.
You aren’t changing the True Believers. She thinks the coastal elite and big blue cities should run roughshod over everybody else because *expletive deleted*ck those rural white supremacist hicks.
You people still cling to the belief that people like that just need to see the truth and they will accept it using logic and analytical thought. It’s a jihad of a different kind and you aren’t changing it.
We are headed for a conflict that will make the Civil War look like a trip to Disney World. The people opposing us are Literally Stalin and have made endless posts about how we all need to be subjugated and reeducated or executed.
We are not dealing with stupidity. We are dealing with pure *expletive deleted*ing evil. There is a marked difference and conservatives still are stupid enough to believe that stupidity is what is driving the left. It’s not.
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The news reads like we are living in a country occupied by its enemies.
The news, no. The actual events, yes.
That's why I said years ago that Left-wing politicians are not Americans, regardless of where they were born, or their legal citizenship.
Missing from your list is that one of the most important posts in our national government has been eliminated, by installing a puppet incapable of governing.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maine-secretary-state-house-swatted-trump-ballot-disqualification-decision
Note these swattings mentioned at the bottom of the article neither of which that I'm aware of make it into front page headlines
On Christmas Day, Republican U.S. Reps. Brandon Wiliams of New York and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia were also the targets of swatting calls.
Then on Tuesday, Republican state Rep. Kevin D. Miller of Ohio reported that he was swatted.
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Note these swattings mentioned at the bottom of the article neither of which that I'm aware of make it into front page headlines
It’s not a crime when lefties do it
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All swatters should be drawn and quartered, no matter who they do it to, but yeah, I'm sure the MSM was giggling about the MTG hit.
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You aren’t changing the True Believers. She thinks the coastal elite and big blue cities should run roughshod over everybody else because *expletive deleted*ck those rural white supremacist hicks.
You people still cling to the belief that people like that just need to see the truth and they will accept it using logic and analytical thought. It’s a jihad of a different kind and you aren’t changing it.
We are headed for a conflict that will make the Civil War look like a trip to Disney World. The people opposing us are Literally Stalin and have made endless posts about how we all need to be subjugated and reeducated or executed.
We are not dealing with stupidity. We are dealing with pure *expletive deleted*ing evil. There is a marked difference and conservatives still are stupid enough to believe that stupidity is what is driving the left. It’s not.
I don't know if there will be a civil war, but aside from that I must agree.
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I don't think there will be a civil war in the USA, at least not for a long time. There is not such a sharp political geographic divide as there was during the civil war, due to the presence of large leftist cities all over the nation. Also, a very large percentage of people everywhere (no matter their political affiliation) are dependent, in whole or part, on money from the federal government (SS, medicare, medicaid, welfare, plus grants to states from the federal government).
I suspect we will just see a continued moral slide in the USA, of which the Right is certainly not immune. More corruption, possibly more crime. More hatred of neighbors, more birthrate and marriage collapse. A lot more racial hatred (of everyone by everyone). More divorce. The continued collapse and degradation of the churches. This may not correspond with economic poverty, at least in the immediate future.
I hope I am wrong.
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We've been slowly sinking into quicksand and as long as our head stays above it we keep thinking "this is fine" By the time our head sinks down it will be too late. I think we're about at that point.
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I'm not sure about a civil war either, but I won't discount it. At the very least, we are already engaged in 5th gen-like warfare against ourselves, let alone from outside actors like China.
I heard an interesting opinion on the news this morning that ties into the immigration thread and puppet Biden. That at this point, with full replacement going on (see my post in the other thread about monthly illegal numbers exceeding monthly birth numbers), it's not about dems getting new voters. It's bigger than R vs D - it's global. It's about Soros and Schwab and "no global borders".
It's about everyone being a "global citizen". Which sounds great if you're from Somalia and with no borders, the US, EU, Australia, or any first world country is open to you in the same way someone might move from one city neighborhood to another. With of course UBI so you don't have to worry about money. It's lowest common denominator on a global scale, and as usual in the "equity" scenarios, the producers will lose and the looters will win.
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The news, no. The actual events, yes.
... other good stuff...
You are absolutely right, I stand corrected.
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We've been slowly sinking into quicksand and as long as our head stays above it we keep thinking "this is fine" By the time our head sinks down it will be too late. I think we're about at that point.
[popcorn]
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We've been slowly sinking into quicksand and as long as our head stays above it we keep thinking "this is fine" By the time our head sinks down it will be too late. I think we're about at that point.
I keep wondering if the black pill thinking (it's too late, it's hopeless) is just more of the same programming and conditioning from the Left.
On the question of whether a civil war may be in store, it is disturbing that Lefty brownshirts have been blocking traffic and getting away with it. Things may get interesting if they try to protect democracy by blocking traffic near polling locations.
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One thing is certain, the chaos has been introduced into society on purpose.
The nutty legislation, ruling from left wing judges and policies of cities, law enforcement etc. all look crazy and incoherent to us.
But if the "chaos" is being introduced on purpose to justify future actions and policies then it's not crazy or incoherent at all.
There is a method to the madness. This isn't organic societal breakdown, it is being imposed from above.
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I was in a pessimistic mood yesterday.
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I was in a pessimistic mood yesterday.
If you aren't pessimistic to a degree and a bit distressed then you are willingly not paying attention.
Focusing on areas we have some ability to insulate ourselves from the madness is the best we can do. In reality it's always been that "the whole world lieth in wickedness". Societies have an ebb and flow and it's our turn to pay the piper. Buckle up.
Life is still full of meaning, goodness, truth and beauty. Spending more time thinking on those things will be my New Years resolution.
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Another MSM bombshell:
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/01/01/axios-liz-cheney-wont-do-anything-to-help-donald-trump-in-2024-n2391299
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Another MSM bombshell:
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/01/01/axios-liz-cheney-wont-do-anything-to-help-donald-trump-in-2024-n2391299
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
In other news water is not only wet but really really wet.
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In other news water is not only wet but really really wet.
In fairness, she actually does help Trump everytime she says stupid stuff like this. :laugh:
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Another MSM bombshell:
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/01/01/axios-liz-cheney-wont-do-anything-to-help-donald-trump-in-2024-n2391299
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It's official: Trump just ended his campaign, and endorsed Jeb! Bush.
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VR won't be gulled into condemning muh whut supremacy.
https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2024/01/04/oof-reporter-doubles-down-on-her-mocked-white-supremacy-question-to-vivek-ramaswamy-n2391396
I hope this spreads. No one should waste time condemning the imaginary white menace. Least of all the guy who's darker than the Democratic nominee.
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Tangentially related, The U.S. Oil and Gas Association throws some shade:
https://twitter.com/US_OGA/status/1743099960848199795
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I only just now heard this on the news, so have no link, but it sounded like for Colorado, if the SC sides with them, it's not only that Trump won't be on the ballot, but even if people do a write-in for him, their vote won't be counted. That would be the opposite of America.
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This is my shocked face
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I only just now heard this on the news, so have no link, but it sounded like for Colorado, if the SC sides with them, it's not only that Trump won't be on the ballot, but even if people do a write-in for him, their vote won't be counted. That would be the opposite of America.
From the chatter I've seen even a lot of libs are expecting 9-0 in Trumps favor. 7-2 worst case.
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From the chatter I've seen even a lot of libs are expecting 9-0 in Trumps favor. 7-2 worst case.
I had no idea that Maga-publican egg-stinchal thredadamocracy had spread so far!
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I had no idea that Maga-publican egg-stinchal thredadamocracy had spread so far!
More like the law is really quite clear that the states can't take Trump off especially primary ballots.
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More like the law is really quite clear that the states can't take Trump off especially primary ballots.
laws are white supremacy
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Christie is out. Not that he had a chance anyway. He apparently dissed Haley on a hot mic on his way out the door. :rofl:
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Christie is out.
Chris Christie Suspends Campaign To Spend More Time With Family-Sized 12-Piece Chicken Meal From KFC
https://babylonbee.com/news/chris-christie-suspends-campaign-to-spend-more-time-with-family-sized-12-piece-chicken-meal-from-kfc
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Chris Christie Suspends Campaign To Spend More Time With Family-Sized 12-Piece Chicken Meal From KFC
https://babylonbee.com/news/chris-christie-suspends-campaign-to-spend-more-time-with-family-sized-12-piece-chicken-meal-from-kfc
Interesting, a non-satire article from The Babylon Bee. I thought they didn't do straight-up journalisming.
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Rand Paul is running a "Never Nikki" campaign.
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/01/12/rand-paul-non-endorsement-n2391685
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Monday night is the Iowa GOP Caucas, that should start separating out the field.
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RNC Research
@RNCResearch
Nancy Pelosi, days before the Iowa caucuses: "Many of us know that it is impossible for [Trump] to be the president again"
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1745824572484559155
"Impossible"
Makes me wonder what else they've got cooking.
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https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1745824572484559155
"Impossible"
Makes me wonder what else they've got cooking.
Since the 2020 debacle, I've often wondered whether Pelosi was (and is) tied into the Democrat election fraud machinery.
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And straight from the [tinfoil] files
Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
Is the Deep State activating HAARP to disrupt the Iowa Caucus?
We all know @NikkiHaley
has a lot of friends in the defense industry and Military industrial complex. She’s losing in Iowa, and now Iowa is set to get hit with a ONCE IN A DECADE blizzard as Donald Trump is set to dominate the Iowa Caucus.
Is the Deep State using HAARP to rig the Iowa Caucus?
Looks like weather manipulation to me.
Take a look at this weather radar below and how the incoming snow storm accelerated out of nowhere.
https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1745598055271846400
Trolling? Bats**t? Engagement Farming? YOU Decide: Laura Loomer's Claim About Iowa Weather is a DOOZY
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/12/laura-loomer-weather-insane-trolling-engagement-farming-you-decide-n2391682
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HAARP and weather modification. [tinfoil] :rofl:
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I'm pretty sure she's trolling. She's loony, but not that loony.
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Harpy harping about HAARP?
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Since the 2020 debacle, I've often wondered whether Pelosi was (and is) tied into the Democrat election fraud machinery.
I need a retirement hobby, go read microfiche of 1950s Baltimore newspapers. Her father being mayor there, impossible without huge ties to some fraud and mob machinery. In short, Nancy was learning the Democrat fraud machinery since before she could walk.
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I need a retirement hobby, go read microfiche of 1950s Baltimore newspapers. Her father being mayor there, impossible without huge ties to some fraud and mob machinery. In short, Nancy was learning the Democrat fraud machinery since before she could walk.
Her brother was the Mayor in the late 60s too.
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The weather is not stopping the climate protesters
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was interrupted several times by climate protesters during an Iowa campaign event, including a protester who was tackled to the ground by security.
"Ron DeSantis is a climate criminal!" an environmentalist protester shouted at DeSantis after rushing onto the stage of an event in Ames on Thursday night.
While wrestling with security on the ground, the protester yelled, "How much money are you taking from oil companies?"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-shuts-down-numbnuts-climate-protesters-iowa-event-security-tackles-ground-im-doing-this
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Here is the CNN delegate estimate from Iowa as of 9:27 p.m. ET:
Former President Donald Trump: 17
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis: 5
Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley: 5
Vivek Ramaswamy: 1
Unallocated: 12
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Enter the Bee:
https://babylonbee.com/news/after-lackluster-showing-nikki-haley-bombs-iowa
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Very few winners of the Iowa GOP Caucus have actually won the general election or even secured the party's nomination. 1972 was the first year.
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Trump wiped the floor with the competition in Iowa. Vivek is out.
While some here don't agree that it's voter manipulation, I still believe this is: After his win, all the big MSM outlets cut away before Trump's speech. I saw clips on the news this morning. CNN cut away and the "journalist" started talking about Trump's "anti-immigrant" rhetoric and agenda. MSNBC cut away and they actually refused to say his name. They called him "the projected winner" and talked about how they and other outlets will no longer give "him" an "unfiltered live platform".
So the censorship is now going full bore, and that is absolutely voter manipulation, IMHO. This time around, it may backfire on them, just like all the media attacks and politically motivated legal actions against him have. Just another attack that actually has more undecided people siding with him because of the banana republic stuff.
I also see that the MSM is heavily pushing polls stating that Trump is mainly winning with the "no college education" demographic. They continue to insult voters to the point said voters will vote for Trump out of spite.
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Here's Rachel Maddow pushing the rhetoric petal to the floor
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1747085612799471677
All the stuff they knew for a fact Trump was going to do in his first term, but of course he didn't, they know for a fact he will do and then some in his second .
Noticing though this time a much stronger call for their side to stop him and the "extreme far right"by any means "necessary". Hoping this is waking up some on left that this is crazy talk and maybe their side is going a bit too far but fear it's hardening a large number of them as well.
I fear we may start seeing full on violence that will make 2020 look like a picnic
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Trump wiped the floor with the competition in Iowa. Vivek is out.
While some here don't agree that it's voter manipulation, I still believe this is: After his win, all the big MSM outlets cut away before Trump's speech. I saw clips on the news this morning. CNN cut away and the "journalist" started talking about Trump's "anti-immigrant" rhetoric and agenda. MSNBC cut away and they actually refused to say his name. They called him "the projected winner" and talked about how they and other outlets will no longer give "him" an "unfiltered live platform".
So the censorship is now going full bore, and that is absolutely voter manipulation, IMHO. This time around, it may backfire on them, just like all the media attacks and politically motivated legal actions against him have. Just another attack that actually has more undecided people siding with him because of the banana republic stuff.
I also see that the MSM is heavily pushing polls stating that Trump is mainly winning with the "no college education" demographic. They continue to insult voters to the point said voters will vote for Trump out of spite.
Whatever you do don't think of an elephant.
They're too stupid to realize that pointedly ignoring Trump like that only makes people think of him more and then seek out actual information.
And "You can't stop the signal, Mal."
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I don't like Trump as a person (not even a little bit) but for the most part he did a much better job as President than I expected. Until even a couple of days ago I was hoping the Republican's could field another candidate who might have a chance of beating Biden & Co. but I'm now mostly back to where I was four years ago -- I'll probably vote for Trump just because he's not the D candidate.
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Also, I just watched Trump's speech after he won. The MSM cut away from a good speech in which Trump said hardly any "Trump tweet" stuff. It was all positive and dare I say, Presidential.
I also saw that Vivek, during his withdrawal speech, heartily supported Trump. My guess is that he's angling for the VP spot, which would be interesting. Unverified rumor has it Tulsi Gabbard met with Trump regarding the VP spot as well.
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I really expect the 2024 election to be a repeat of 2020 with lots of doubt on the part of many about its legitimacy.
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I really expect the 2024 election to be a repeat of 2020 with lots of doubt on the part of many about its legitimacy.
No matter who "wins".
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Here's a shocker, Joy Reid see it's as a matter of race and *gasp* Christianity in Iowa.
She is so predictable, she could see racism in a glass of water.
Joy Reid sparks anger after saying white Christians are overrepresented in Iowa and Trump is so successful because they believe he will 'return' America to them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12969467/joy-reid-trump-victory-iowa-white-christians-racism.html
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Christians are so toxic, with their slavery bans, and all that MLK stuff. Just awful.
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https://thespectator.com/politics/told-ron-desantis-campaign-2024/
I don't know who this guy is, but he has some inside info on the DeSantis campaign. He's a DeSantis supporter, but has nothing good to say about his campaign.
I've felt from the beginning that if Republican primary/caucus voters do not choose DeSantis, we'll regret it. Even if Trump wins.
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Also, I just watched Trump's speech after he won. The MSM cut away from a good speech in which Trump said hardly any "Trump tweet" stuff. It was all positive and dare I say, Presidential.
I also saw that Vivek, during his withdrawal speech, heartily supported Trump. My guess is that he's angling for the VP spot, which would be interesting. Unverified rumor has it Tulsi Gabbard met with Trump regarding the VP spot as well.
Has a network, and in last night's example several networks, ever before cut off a candidate mid speech and then openly admit they did it because they don't want you hear what the candidate wants to say?
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https://thespectator.com/politics/told-ron-desantis-campaign-2024/
I don't know who this guy is, but he has some inside info on the DeSantis campaign. He's a DeSantis supporter, but has nothing good to say about his campaign.
I've felt from the beginning that if Republican primary/caucus voters do not choose DeSantis, we'll regret it. Even if Trump wins.
He might be the best potus of the bunch but he has run an abysmal campaign.
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He might be the best potus of the bunch but he has run an abysmal campaign.
I am still flabbergasted. I really expected him to at the very least be neck and neck with Trump, and with most of Trump's ideas without the teenage twitter baggage, to eventually surpass him. I still can't believe how far behind he has been this entire time.
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I am still flabbergasted. I really expected him to at the very least be neck and neck with Trump, and with most of Trump's ideas without the teenage twitter baggage, to eventually surpass him. I still can't believe how far behind he has been this entire time.
DeSantis is still running? Coulda fooled me, I heard more about Vivek than him.
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I am still flabbergasted. I really expected him to at the very least be neck and neck with Trump, and with most of Trump's ideas without the teenage twitter baggage, to eventually surpass him. I still can't believe how far behind he has been this entire time.
He only started to engage podcasts in the last month or so. He's tried to be this above the fray (with lifts!) guy but refused for a long time to actually engage with anyone on their level. So he came off as an arrogant prick that didn't represent real people.
I don't think that's really him. But it's how he came off.
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Oh snap!
Trump Promises Vivek An Administration Position Running The White House 7-Eleven
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-promises-vivek-an-administration-position-running-white-house-convenience-store
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Given Trump gets the nomination, I am really curious as to who his VP pick would be. Vivek would make sense to me, but I just saw somewhere today that the talking heads are all talking Haley, and that it's not just their wishful thinking, but that she's the Trump team top pick.
I freely admit I always get this stuff wrong, but I'm trying to figure how Haley would be the top choice. It seems as far as the VP position matters (not all that much) that she would turn off as much of the base as she would attract establishment R voters. There just seem to me to be too many things to which she and Trump are diametrically opposed.
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(Stolen from the internet somewhere)
If Trump picks Nikki Haley to be VP and wins, he needs to hire a food taster.
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Oh snap!
Trump Promises Vivek An Administration Position Running The White House 7-Eleven
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-promises-vivek-an-administration-position-running-white-house-convenience-store
Some are saying the Bee went a bit too far with that one
'The Babylon Bee' Flies Close to the Sun As Trump and Vivek Cartoon Gets Twitter Talking
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/01/16/vivek-7-11-babylon-bee-n2391828
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I don't want Haley around, either, but I guess the idea is she pulls in more
centrist moderate left-wing Republicans, independents, and the people that think we need to Save Ukraine! Or at least, that's what's being said. Seems like shoring up support from nervous, suburb women, who think Trump is mean to women must be a part of that calculus, too. That, and she could really savage Kamala Harris in a way no man would get away with.
But that throwback vibe is big these days. He should get Sarah Palin. =D
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I don't want Haley around, either, but I guess the idea is she pulls in more centrist moderate left-wing Republicans, independents, and the people that think we need to Save Ukraine! Or at least, that's what's being said. Seems like shoring up support from nervous, suburb women, who think Trump is mean to women must be a part of that calculus, too.
But that throwback vibe is big these days. He should get Sarah Palin. =D
I didn't really vote for McCain, I voted for Palin and hoped McCain would vapor lock.
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Like I said earlier, very few winners of the Iowa GOP Caucus actually get to the Whitehouse. Wake me up after Super Tuesday.
Only 2 I can think of is, Ford and GW Bush.
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Like I said earlier, very few winners of the Iowa GOP Caucus actually get to the Whitehouse. Wake me up after Super Tuesday.
Only 2 I can think of is, Ford and GW Bush.
Ford got into the WH by being appointed Nixon's VP after Agnew resigned
Ford then lost the 76 election to Carter
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Ford lost the election to Carter
Duh
Just GW Bush
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Like I said earlier, very few winners of the Iowa GOP Caucus actually get to the Whitehouse. Wake me up after Super Tuesday.
Only 2 I can think of is, Ford and GW Bush.
Doesn't seem like past trends would tell us much. For one, conventional wisdom doesn't serve us very well, when Trump is involved. Secondly, most Hawkeye Caucus winners don't get that big of a margin, do they? Thirdly, it's 2024, and things are just weird now. Really weird. Fourthly, most Hawkeye Caucus winners aren't prior presidents of the United States. Fifthly, most Republicans don't get the kind of rabid devotion Trump inspires in the base. I doubt any Republican ever has.
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Doesn't seem like past trends would tell us much. For one, conventional wisdom doesn't serve us very well, when Trump is involved. Secondly, most Hawkeye Caucus winners don't get that big of a margin, do they? Thirdly, it's 2024, and things are just weird now. Really weird. Fourthly, most Hawkeye Caucus winners aren't prior presidents of the United States. Fifthly, most Republicans don't get the kind of rabid devotion Trump inspires in the base. I doubt any Republican ever has.
There has been some tight Iowa Caucuses and there has been some 10+ percentage points between the winner and 2nd place.
Trump does have a rabious base in Iowa, you can't swing a dead Kennedy without hitting a Trump sign.
Like I said wake me up after Super Tuesday
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Like I said earlier, very few winners of the Iowa GOP Caucus actually get to the Whitehouse. Wake me up after Super Tuesday.
Even if Trump doesn't go on to win it was enjoyable just seeing the unhinged meltdown on MSNBC
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Trump wiped the floor with the competition in Iowa. Vivek is out.
While some here don't agree that it's voter manipulation, I still believe this is: After his win, all the big MSM outlets cut away before Trump's speech. I saw clips on the news this morning. CNN cut away and the "journalist" started talking about Trump's "anti-immigrant" rhetoric and agenda. MSNBC cut away and they actually refused to say his name. They called him "the projected winner" and talked about how they and other outlets will no longer give "him" an "unfiltered live platform".
So the censorship is now going full bore, and that is absolutely voter manipulation, IMHO. This time around, it may backfire on them, just like all the media attacks and politically motivated legal actions against him have. Just another attack that actually has more undecided people siding with him because of the banana republic stuff.
I also see that the MSM is heavily pushing polls stating that Trump is mainly winning with the "no college education" demographic. They continue to insult voters to the point said voters will vote for Trump out of spite.
Per the MSNBC clip I have seen, she had his name and photo on-screen while she was saying the words "projected winner." She also referred to him as "former President Trump" in her next sentence.
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Oh snap!
Trump Promises Vivek An Administration Position Running The White House 7-Eleven
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-promises-vivek-an-administration-position-running-white-house-convenience-store
Some are saying the Bee went a bit too far with that one
'The Babylon Bee' Flies Close to the Sun As Trump and Vivek Cartoon Gets Twitter Talking
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/01/16/vivek-7-11-babylon-bee-n2391828
The Babylon Bee responds to the criticism
Some of our readers have expressed concern about this report, suggesting it did not meet the high journalistic standards they've come to expect from us. We want you to know that we've listened to you. We've heard your voices. And they are stupid. https://t.co/7uJVsnUbYA
— Seth Dillon (@SethDillon) January 17, 2024
https://twitchy.com/coucy/2024/01/17/vivekgate-update-n2391844
Meanwhile Vivek
I’m a “survivor” 😂 https://t.co/Dx7yGeWdcJ
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) January 17, 2024
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According to this article (link below), some media flunkies are fist-pumping about a seat in the Florida state-house flipping to Democrat in an election held this week. But according to the story, it's not the win it appears to be.
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2024/01/17/not-every-fl-gop-loss-is-as-it-appears-n605646
They moved the district to a completely different geographical location.
(https://hotair.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/FLHD35-730x404.jpg)
And furthermore...
Even with that voter registration advantage and, quite frankly, a Republican candidate who was on the stolen-election Trump train in a Democratic district?
Erika Booth (R) only lost to Tom Keen (D – Progressive) by 590 votes out of 22,190 cast.
And again – in a Democratic district....
It’s actually a disaster. They should have wiped the floor with Booth. She’s every bogeyman POTATUS and Dems trot out for regular thrashings
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In Desperate Attempt To Bring Attention To Presidential Campaign, DeSantis Wrestles Alligator
https://babylonbee.com/news/in-desperate-attempt-to-bring-attention-to-presidential-campaign-desantis-wrestles-alligator
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REP LIEU INTRODUCES BILL TO BAN USE OF GLUE TRAPS
https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-lieu-introduces-bill-ban-use-glue-traps
I saw an Instagram post on this and there it is on the guy's web site.
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This current list of potential Trump VP picks are names I didn't expect to see. JD Vance, Sarah Huckabee, Elise Stefanik. Vivek is notably absent.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-advisers-talk-vp-choices-assemble-short-list-anticipation-new-hampshire-win
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No Vivek? Trump probably doesn't want a VP who is twice+ as smart as him. Any time Trump gets jealous of a subordinate, he starts publicly insulting them. I once worked under a jackass who was like that.
Frankly, I'm not aware that VP is anything but a useless position anyway.
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No Vivek? Trump probably doesn't want a VP who is twice+ as smart as him. Any time Trump gets jealous of a subordinate, he starts publicly insulting them. I once worked under a jackass who was like that.
Frankly, I'm not aware that VP is anything but a useless position anyway.
Tell that to
John Tyler
Millard Fillmore
Andrew Johnson
Chester A. Arthur
TR
Calvin Coolidge
Truman
LBJ
Ford
Out of 46 (counting Biden) presidents 9 have died while in office or in the case of Nixon resigned. That's 19.5% of all presidents. And this is not counting presidents that almost died while in office, Jackson, Ford, Reagan (off the top of my head, maybe a couple of others) through failed assassination attempts
And there are those that went on to be elected to pres after serving as vp
Plus as VP they get to cast the deciding vote in the senate in case of a tie vote and with the senate as close as it is right now that's hugely important
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And add 3 more could have been through impeachment
Whoever A. Johnson's VP was
Al Gore (Clinton)
Pence (Trump)
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And popped into my head while in the shower
Thomas R. Marshall, W. Wilson's VP who it can be argued probably should have been sworn in as P after Wilson suffered his 2nd stroke.
So that makes 9 VPs of 46 Ps (19.5%) that have become P through death or resignation of the P
1 should have been
At minimum 3 almosts (failed assassinations, impeachments etc..)
That's 28% of 46 presidents if you count Biden. Still remains to be seen if he can make it to Jan 20, 2025. I don't even want to think about 2025-29 if he wins.
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And popped into my heads while in the shower
Thomas R. Marshall, W. Wilson's VP who it can be argued probably should have been sworn in as P after Wilson suffered his 2nd stroke.
So that makes 9 VPs of 46 Ps (19.5%) that have become P through death or resignation of the P
1 should have been
At minimum 3 almosts (failed assassinations, impeachments etc..)
That's 28% of 46 presidents if you count Biden. Still remains to be seen if he can make it to Jan 20, 2025. I don't even want to think about 2025-29 if he wins.
Currently polling is showing Trump winning. Depending on who is predicting I've seen 290ish EVs to upwards of 320.
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Currently polling is showing Trump winning. Depending on who is predicting I've seen 290ish EVs to upwards of 320.
And I still can't figure out if the commies are playing 2456 dimensional chess with a sucker punch up their sleeve, or if it really is what it appears to be - them screwing themselves because they went so overboard on the TDS that they turned him into a martyr.
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It wouldn't be all that surprising if the Left simply did the same thing they did 8 years ago, when they helped Trump win the primary, because they thought he'd be the easiest to defeat in the general election. Falling for that twice would be just what they deserve.
'Course, if Republicans nominate Trump for a second loss in the general election, we'll deserve it just as much.
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Looking more and more Trump is it.
Gov. Ron DeSantis: 'I Am Today Suspending My Campaign'; Update: Endorsing Trump
https://twitchy.com/jacobb/2024/01/21/gov-ron-desantis-i-am-today-suspending-my-campaign-n2392006
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis drops out of 2024 presidential race, endorses Trump
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-gov-ron-desantis-drops-out-2024-presidential-race-endorses-trump
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Uniparty is looking hard to install Nikki.
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Out of 46 (counting Biden) presidents 9 have died while in office or in the case of Nixon resigned.
Good point.
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Looking more and more Trump is it.
Gov. Ron DeSantis: 'I Am Today Suspending My Campaign'; Update: Endorsing Trump
https://twitchy.com/jacobb/2024/01/21/gov-ron-desantis-i-am-today-suspending-my-campaign-n2392006
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis drops out of 2024 presidential race, endorses Trump
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-gov-ron-desantis-drops-out-2024-presidential-race-endorses-trump
MAGA internet is looking at one button that says "Congratulate DeSantis for doing what we wanted him to do" and another one that says "Mock DeSantis and call him a loser," and sweating mighty hard.
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The GOP had a chance to pick a competent, conservative candidate. Instead they (we?) decided we wanted someone really good at juvenile insults.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/breaking-professor-election-expert-j-halderman-hacks-dominion/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/breaking-professor-election-expert-j-halderman-hacks-dominion/
Of course she did:
Far-left Judge Amy Totenberg sealed and covered up the results of the investigation of Dominion voting machines in Georgia and sat on the report until this week.
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How did the Babylon Bee let this get by them?
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/GD4xNXxXEAA4Sdd.jpg)
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Apparently with DeSantis out, they're going to gaslight Trump being the one with dementia, not Biden.
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/01/22/projection-alert-dems-media-pivot-to-sounding-alarm-about-trumps-mental-state-n2392023
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And NH will go to Trump. Looks like it will be single digits, and Haley will continue on.
I read that many dems in NH changed their party affiliation to vote Haley so Trump couldn't win. I wonder how much they had to do with Trump's single digit lead?
I guess it's a free country, but I don't know that I like that dem strategy. They're doing it here in Idaho as well to try and get milquetoast Rs in state and Congressional slots. I'm not aware of R voters doing the same thing. It's a bit too much like election manipulation to suit me.
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Pretty much the same as Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos, isn’t it?
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Pretty much the same as Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos, isn’t it?
Not familiar. I will need to google.
Edit: Googled. Yes it is. Slightly different reasons, but it appears to be a similar strategy. I don't like it.
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And NH will go to Trump. Looks like it will be single digits, and Haley will continue on.
I read that many dems in NH changed their party affiliation to vote Haley so Trump couldn't win. I wonder how much they had to do with Trump's single digit lead?
I guess it's a free country, but I don't know that I like that dem strategy. They're doing it here in Idaho as well to try and get milquetoast Rs in state and Congressional slots. I'm not aware of R voters doing the same thing. It's a bit too much like election manipulation to suit me.
Heard earlier that NH has an open primary, so they probably didn't even have to change party affiliation.
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Voting in the other party's primary isn't new.
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And NH will go to Trump. Looks like it will be single digits, and Haley will continue on.
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So we're just calling elections for Trump before the 3:30 AM ballot drop? You'd think we'd have learned. =D
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So we're just calling elections for Trump before the 3:30 AM ballot drop? You'd think we'd have learned. =D
:laugh:
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I haven't seen it, but on the newz this morning (conservative program) they're rightly (if true) digging on Trump because he apparently went twitter teenager for his New Hampshire victory speech. That's annoying to me as his post Iowa speech was very presidential, IMO. I was hoping that he had learned his lesson about the mean girl stuff.
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I haven't seen it, but on the newz this morning (conservative program) they're rightly (if true) digging on Trump because he apparently went twitter teenager for his New Hampshire victory speech. That's annoying to me as his post Iowa speech was very presidential, IMO. I was hoping that he had learned his lesson about the mean girl stuff.
Seriously? You silly person.
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I haven't seen it, but on the newz this morning (conservative program) they're rightly (if true) digging on Trump because he apparently went twitter teenager for his New Hampshire victory speech. That's annoying to me as his post Iowa speech was very presidential, IMO. I was hoping that he had learned his lesson about the mean girl stuff.
When he gets sand in his vagina ...
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Tangent, but in a "Dodged a bullet" kinda way:
https://youtu.be/w40xEhhDAHo
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/01/24/hillary-clinton-goes-for-the-oscar-in-most-bitter-failed-presidential-candidate-ever-category-n2392115
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They had to change to no party and I saw cnn say it was 70% of the votes she got.
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Seriously? You silly person.
I do foolishly keep hoping. Again, he's not my #1 pick, but if he's gonna be the nominee, I don't understand how his team, if not him, can see how many more votes he'd get if he would knock that off. He already has the cheerleaders who think that crap is funny in his court, and they'll vote for him no matter what, but it's not enough.
I wouldn't mind voting for the "post-Iowa" Trump, but mean girl Trump is gonna make me hold my nose as I vote for his policies and wish he could keep his big mouth shut.
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I do foolishly keep hoping. Again, he's not my #1 pick, but if he's gonna be the nominee, I don't understand how his team, if not him, can see how many more votes he'd get if he would knock that off. He already has the cheerleaders who think that crap is funny in his court, and they'll vote for him no matter what, but it's not enough.
I wouldn't mind voting for the "post-Iowa" Trump, but mean girl Trump is gonna make me hold my nose as I vote for his policies and wish he could keep his big mouth shut.
I couldn't have said it better.
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I do foolishly keep hoping. Again, he's not my #1 pick, but if he's gonna be the nominee, I don't understand how his team, if not him, can see how many more votes he'd get if he would knock that off. He already has the cheerleaders who think that crap is funny in his court, and they'll vote for him no matter what, but it's not enough.
I wouldn't mind voting for the "post-Iowa" Trump, but mean girl Trump is gonna make me hold my nose as I vote for his policies and wish he could keep his big mouth shut.
That was supposed to be the appeal of DeSantis. But then he ran the campaign the uniparty wanted him to run instead of one that would, you know, work.
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That was supposed to be the appeal of DeSantis. But then he ran the campaign the uniparty wanted him to run instead of one that would, you know, work.
I don't know if we can blame the uniparty, but if that's what happened, were they trying to sabotage DeSantis or are they just incompetent?
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That was supposed to be the appeal of DeSantis. But then he ran the campaign the uniparty wanted him to run instead of one that would, you know, work.
What campaign would have worked for DeSantis?
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What campaign would have worked for DeSantis?
DeSantis '28, probably.
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... were they trying to sabotage DeSantis or are they just incompetent?
Hard to tell the difference.
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What campaign would have worked for DeSantis?
The strategy of Vivek would have been hard to beat.
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The strategy of Vivek would have been hard to beat.
The strategy of Vivek was beaten, even by DeSantis.
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The strategy of Vivek was beaten, even by DeSantis.
Vivek was beaten, mostly because he was an unknown, and was a Trump facsimile. With the real Trump still there the motivation vote Vivek wasn't very strong. But the campaign strategy of Vivek with the personality and positions of DeSantis would have played much better for DeSantis.
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Well, I'm guessing Trump getting 99% of the media attention, plus the Democrats persecuting him over BS, plus his savvy use of populist propaganda won it for him.
Too bad he isn't a decent human being or a very competent leader. I am disappointed at the GOP for eating up his dreck.
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Probably as good a place as any to post this. There's no deep state. That's just a bunch of nonsense. But here's some feds getting together prior to the 2020 elections to talk about subverting the government to keep Trump out.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/25/weaver-thread-feds-trump-n2392134
9. We Have Power & Responsibility
"We have power and responsibility as federal workers... rules have meaning because we decide they do, we decide to enforce them." - Maddy Salzman
19. Leak Everything You Can
"..everyone who works in the federal government, if you read the mainstream press, like who is covering your agency, who is working for @propublica , who is working for @politico . They all have signal accounts. Text them, leak everything you can."
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Biden's Dem Challenger Launches Big Foot Ad Mocking President for Not Campaigning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPrGu0WZB-A
Just saw this a bit late since New Hampshire is over.
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Tells me they're getting really worried.
You really can’t make this up.
“Right-wing Extremists will steal the 2024 Election…” -Hilary Clinton. pic.twitter.com/scC68oWl74
— Liz Churchill (@liz_churchill10) January 28, 2024
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/28/hillary-clinton-warns-right-wing-extremists-will-steal-the-2024-election-n2392293
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Tells me they're getting really worried.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/28/hillary-clinton-warns-right-wing-extremists-will-steal-the-2024-election-n2392293
Since they always accuse others of things they are doing themselves, it is just more proof that they are doing their best to steal it.
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Snoop Dog and Donny, sitting in a tree. K-i-s-s-i-n-g.
https://twitchy.com/videos/2024/01/30/snoop-doggs-stunning-reversal-on-donald-trump-n2392348
I would crack up if Trump starts getting the stoner vote now. :rofl:
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Snoop Dog and Donny, sitting in a tree. K-i-s-s-i-n-g.
https://twitchy.com/videos/2024/01/30/snoop-doggs-stunning-reversal-on-donald-trump-n2392348
I would crack up if Trump starts getting the stoner vote now. :rofl:
Waiting on Snoop Dog being called a white supremacist
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https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/01/31/desantis-scores-final-victory-against-disney-federal-case-dismissed-n2169462
Per the article, this is the end of the road for Disney. No idea if that's correct.
The timing is interesting. Makes me wonder if the lawsuit was only there to cause problems if DeSantis was the nominee.
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Biden/Harris Reelection Donation Prank
https://petespranks.com/products/biden-harris-2024-reelection-campaign-donation-mailer
This one could triggered some suicides
Donald Trump Presidential Election Donation Prank
https://petespranks.com/products/donald-trump-presidential-election-donation-prank
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As a former insider, I am here to tell you the mainstream media is making a critical mistake in election coverage in 2024.
They are ignoring the threat Donald Trump and his cohorts pose and we must address this.
Read the details in my newsletter. The link is in my bio.
— Chris Cillizza (@ChrisCillizza) February 7, 2024
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/07/chris-cillizza-says-the-medias-doing-a-terrible-job-warning-us-about-donald-trump-n2392672
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https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/07/chris-cillizza-says-the-medias-doing-a-terrible-job-warning-us-about-donald-trump-n2392672
I can't remember for sure, but I think some "reporter" somewhere once said, "Let me say, for the billionth time, reporters don't root for a side! PERIOD!!!"
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Nevada primary results:
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Nevada primary results:
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I live in SC so I get to be bombarded with Nikki Haley ads all day long from all sources
Trump is wildly popular in my state and has been since the first time he ran.
Haley is so *expletive deleted*ing stupid she thinks a winning strategy for this state is to run commercials slamming Trump.
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Haley is so *expletive deleted*ing stupid she thinks a winning strategy for this state is to run commercials slamming Trump.
Though I will say that occasionally Trump helps her with his foot in mouth disease. He just recently did some "Where is Nikki's husband?" shtick implying he flew the coop or something, when in fact he's deployed in Africa right now.
Some of these candidates have the worst staff regarding keeping them informed on stuff. Not that it would keep Trump from saying something stupid three seconds after people say, "Hey, that last speech of Trump's was really presidential. Maybe he's getting his *expletive deleted*it together!" :laugh:
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Deep state? What deep state?
Apparently Trump said that if he's reelected, he's going to fire thousands of feds and reduce/eliminate some agencies and offices. While on the one hand saying "Trump will never win", OPM and others within government are right this minute creating rules to limit presidential power regarding firing federal workers and the rules are expected to be in place before the end of the year.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-2024-government-regulations-democrats-6badc3b424b9eff3ba51e0ec35a8d824?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/16/dems-freak-out-after-report-that-trump-plans-to-shrink-size-of-federal-govt-n2393013
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No link as I just now heard it on the Fox Business, but apparently Germany announced it is now paying what it owes to NATO and looking at upping its percentage contribution. Trump wins again. If they thought Biden was gonna be reelected, they would have continued to shine on their obligation, knowing there would be no scorched Earth response.
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Yesterday I was inundated with links (including from the unboased MSM) to a video purportedly showing a crowd booing Trump at a sneaker convention. When I watched it, it was obviously edited, and edited so specifically that you could see the choppy cut at the beginning. When I did my own research and brought up a less edited video, if there was any booing, it was very minor and only seconds, compared to a whole bunch of cheering and "*expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden" the rest of the time. as can be seen here:
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/02/19/resister-thinks-theyre-saying-lets-go-biden-lol-n2393075
For the record, if Trump wants to be in the sneaker business, I guess whatever, man. But holy hell - who is buying those stupid gold sneakers for $400?!? It seems to me like the smart move would have been to do some USA themed sneakers, or else camo or coyote or something to make them more relatable to his base, which I assume would be the major customers. The kind of people who buy gold sneakers are probably not Trump voters, and would be more likely to boycott him.
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Yesterday I was inundated with links (including from the unboased MSM) to a video purportedly showing a crowd booing Trump at a sneaker convention. When I watched it, it was obviously edited, and edited so specifically that you could see the choppy cut at the beginning. When I did my own research and brought up a less edited video, if there was any booing, it was very minor and only seconds, compared to a whole bunch of cheering and "*expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden" the rest of the time. as can be seen here:
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/02/19/resister-thinks-theyre-saying-lets-go-biden-lol-n2393075
For the record, if Trump wants to be in the sneaker business, I guess whatever, man. But holy hell - who is buying those stupid gold sneakers for $400?!? It seems to me like the smart move would have been to do some USA themed sneakers, or else camo or coyote or something to make them more relatable to his base, which I assume would be the major customers. The kind of people who buy gold sneakers are probably not Trump voters, and would be more likely to boycott him.
I was thinking I could likely resell the sneakers if I had heard about it ahead of time.
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It appears that Trump has acknowledged a half dozen people on his VP "short list":
Former President Trump acknowledged at a Fox News town hall in South Carolina that Ron DeSantis, Tim Scott, Vivek Ramaswamy, Kristi Noem, Bryon Donalds and Tulsi Gabbard are on his running mate shortlist.
My thoughts:
Ron DeSantis: I suppose he could be seen as a rudder (or anchor) that could help focus things to Trump policy vs Trump twitter. He has to me always been Trumpish in policy without the teenage mean girl baggage. He has the "I don't take *expletive deleted*it" attitude that would keep him from being an international pushover.
Tim Scott: I think he's a smart, good guy, but I get the feeling he would be looked at as a male Kamala - chosen just because of his color rather than his ability, even though he has the ability.
Vivek: Possibly a draw to younger voters and independents. In some ways he has the Trump "out there" personality, but he seems to be able to navigate the social medias much better than Trump, and he's much better at comebacks when he's insulted.
Kristi Noem: She seems like a solid choice as a woman VP not chosen simply because she's a woman. Some of the purported and alleged personal life stuff that has been in the news could be a negative.
Bryan Donalds: I honestly don't know much about him, so can't comment. He seems to have his act together in the limited interviews I've seen with him.
Tulsi Gabbard: I know a lot of guys here don't like her, but she's an interesting choice. She has the same "avoid wars and sticking our noses in other people's business" viewpoint as Trump has, and I think a lot of that is why she seems to be saying lots of pro-Trump stuff of late. I know that most of the youtube former snake eaters whose podcasts I watch all seem to think very highly of her. I think she would draw a lot of independents away from Biden and/or from staying home instead of voting. Also those people who don't like Trump, but have been questioning the political attacks on Trump by the establishment (the "If they can do it to him, they can do it to me" crowd, which Tulsi seems to be a part of).
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It appears that Trump has acknowledged a half dozen people on his VP "short list":
What kind of idiot would want to be Trump's VP? He's just going to end up personally insulting you on twitter, and having his fans declare you a traitor.
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What kind of idiot would want to be Trump's VP? He's just going to end up personally insulting you on twitter, and having his fans declare you a traitor.
Someone with Belladonna in their garden? Dude's old and eats like crap......
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What kind of idiot would want to be Trump's VP? He's just going to end up personally insulting you on twitter, and having his fans declare you a traitor.
I agree with that for cabinet positions, but I think it will be harder for him to do that with a VP. He didn't really attack Pence until the end. He can't "fire" or force a VP to resign the way he can for a cabinet or other appointed position.
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I agree with that for cabinet positions, but I think it will be harder for him to do that with a VP. He didn't really attack Pence until the end. He can't "fire" or force a VP to resign the way he can for a cabinet or other appointed position.
Part of the calculus though needs to be who can carry on Trump's legacy. He's going to be a lame duck from the moment he's inaugurated due to term limits. He won't want someone who will *expletive deleted*it on his legacy in the 2028-2036 term that his VP will be expected to serve as POTUS.
I think he had pence on the assumption that he'd bring the calmness he lacked but that Pence was unlikely to win the nomination once Trump was done. This time I don't think he can assume that about anyone who would be his VP.
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Where's Kanye, or Alex Jones? :laugh:
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Oh no! They're going to leave the country (again!) if Trump wins!!!!!
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/23/nbc-news-explores-ways-candidate-the-lefts-trying-to-bankrupt-might-punish-political-opposition-n2393234
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To save democracy we must be a Banana Republic
Murray and other legal scholars say that, absent clear guidance from the Supreme Court, a Trump win could lead to a constitutional crisis in Congress. Democrats would have to choose between confirming a winner many of them believe is ineligible and defying the will of voters who elected him. Their choice could be decisive: As their victory in a House special election in New York last week demonstrated, Democrats have a serious chance of winning a majority in Congress in November, even if Trump recaptures the presidency on the same day. If that happens, they could have the votes to prevent him from taking office.
In interviews, senior House Democrats would not commit to certifying a Trump win, saying they would do so only if the Supreme Court affirms his eligibility. But during oral arguments, liberal and conservative justices alike seemed inclined to dodge the question of his eligibility altogether and throw the decision to Congress.
If Trump Wins, Trying to Stop Election Certification Won't Be a 'Threat to Democracy' Anymore
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/23/if-trump-wins-trying-to-stop-election-certification-wont-be-a-threat-to-democracy-anymore-n2393247
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To save democracy we must be a Banana Republic
If Trump Wins, Trying to Stop Election Certification Won't Be a 'Threat to Democracy' Anymore
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/23/if-trump-wins-trying-to-stop-election-certification-wont-be-a-threat-to-democracy-anymore-n2393247
No doubt in my mind their certification day antics (should Trump win) will make 6 Jan 2021 look like nap time at the opium den. The Stop J20 riots of '17 will be a sweet memory of order and harmony.
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No doubt in my mind their certification day antics (should Trump win) will make 6 Jan 2021 look like nap time at the opium den. The Stop J20 riots of '17 will be a sweet memory of order and harmony.
And in their case, it will be antifa riots all over again, with everyone getting a slap on the wrist. If Trump wins, I don't care what kind of riots it causes, but I want him to give blanket pardons to everyone convicted for anything 06JAN. Especially if these morons do what they're talking about on certification day.
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And in their case, it will be antifa riots all over again, with everyone getting a slap on the wrist. If Trump wins, I don't care what kind of riots it causes, but I want him to give blanket pardons to everyone convicted for anything 06JAN. Especially if these morons do what they're talking about on certification day.
Concur. I guess there might be some hard cases that need to serve their time, or get commutations, but if the Republican Party wants any kind of loyalty from their voters, they need to pardon all or nearly all of the defendants.
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Concur. I guess there might be some hard cases that need to serve their time, or get commutations, but if the Republican Party wants any kind of loyalty from their voters, they need to pardon all or nearly all of the defendants.
Sure - there were people that actually committed crime and did property damage, but I figure between their time spent imprisoned without bail while waiting for trial, and time spent in jail after conviction by January 2025, they've paid their dues. Certainly more so than 90% of the antifas.
For those that got years to decades for "trespassing" or for not even being there but saying "wrongthink" out loud, I hope they sue and win for millions and millions of dollars, regardless of if those are my tax dollars or not.
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Well, it seems like today will be the day for Republicans. The numbers in South Carolina are looking like a landslide for Trump. If that turns out to be the case, I don't see how Haley can justify continuing on.
After this it will all be about what dirty tricks the dems are going to pull to try and disqualify Trump, or question the integrity of elections if Trump wins, and disqualify him then.
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I'm really disappointed but not altogether surprised we are going to have Trump again. Does he have any platform besides throwing and smashing things?
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I'm really disappointed but not altogether surprised we are going to have Trump again. Does he have any platform besides throwing and smashing things?
He actually has a solid platform, but nobody ever sees it because he's always throwing and smashing things. I notice that a number of his speeches of late have been much more grown up and presidential - quite impressive, actually. But then he goes back to Twitter mean girl mode.
It's the old joke about one "aw *expletive deleted*it" wiping away ten "attaboys". Except he's currently on the 2:1 plan instead of the 1:10 plan. If his team could rein him in, his policies that gave us a secure border, no wars, and a good SC could shine. I don't have high hopes, though.
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If only the major parties hadn't been incentivized over decades to not care about providing solid candidates because the faithful refuse to even consider voting for anyone outside their party, even if R v. D. is Giant *expletive deleted*che vs. Turd Sandwich.
I know, I know *THIS* election is too important to risk losing. The nation faces an existential threat this time. We can work on more parties after we defeat [huge enemy of the other side]. Just vote [R or D] to save the country now, and they will reform after this election.
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If only the major parties hadn't been incentivized over decades to not care about providing solid candidates because the faithful refuse to even consider voting for anyone outside their party, even if R v. D. is Giant *expletive deleted*che vs. Turd Sandwich.
I know, I know *THIS* election is too important to risk losing. The nation faces an existential threat this time. We can work on more parties after we defeat [huge enemy of the other side]. Just vote [R or D] to save the country now, and they will reform after this election.
Is "chicken and egg" the right metaphor to use? I generally agree with what you said, but it always comes down to how to get the numbers for the votes. Both sides are always afraid of "throwing away their vote" on a third (or fourth or fifth) party candidate. How do you break that barrier?
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I'm really disappointed but not altogether surprised we are going to have Trump again. Does he have any platform besides throwing and smashing things?
That’s the only reason I want him in the Whitehouse.
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If only the major parties hadn't been incentivized over decades to not care about providing solid candidates because the faithful refuse to even consider voting for anyone outside their party, even if R v. D. is Giant *expletive deleted*che vs. Turd Sandwich.
I know, I know *THIS* election is too important to risk losing. The nation faces an existential threat this time. We can work on more parties after we defeat [huge enemy of the other side]. Just vote [R or D] to save the country now, and they will reform after this election.
Not sure what you mean by decades. The US has been a 2-party system since the beginning.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/duvergers-law-dead-parrot-dunleavy/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+does+first-past-the-post+lead+to+2+party+system&t=brave&ia=web
Do you think there's a way of changing the built-in tendency toward a 2-party system before this November's elections? What should we do differently? I'm open to changing it, but won't it take at least a few election cycles?
I think the big question you're not asking is why Republicans are so insistent on nominating Trump instead of the Person Who Obviously Should Be the Republican Nominee (PWOSBRN). We had a much better choice within the 2-party system, but we went with Trump, instead. Why? That's not because of any party system, or winner-take-all, first-past-the-post elections. It's because we wanted to put our feels (gotta own the libs! love Trump!) over electing the PWOSBRN. PWOSBRN has a record of combining massive electoral success, even in blue areas, while simultaneously advancing an America-first, pro-liberty, anti-SJW platform. The 2-party system didn't deprive us of that. That was a self-own.
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Is "chicken and egg" the right metaphor to use? I generally agree with what you said, but it always comes down to how to get the numbers for the votes. Both sides are always afraid of "throwing away their vote" on a third (or fourth or fifth) party candidate. How do you break that barrier?
Convince both sides that they are throwing away their vote by voting for whatever trash the main parties regurgitate to be picked from, and convince people that it's not the end of the nation if "their" party looses an election or three if the resultant shift to a third party allows for 1. a replacement of one of the big two, or 2. one of the big 2 instituting massive reforms to bring them closer to what the country is supposed to be.
So far I've been spectacularly unsuccessful at convincing folks of that. They'd rather vote for trash out of fear of "losing" and further cement the uniparty's control. The outliers are folks like Boomhauer who seem to say they are voting for the candidate (Trump) that will cause the most ruckas and damage to the establishment, which I actually understand and sympathize with.
Not sure what you mean by decades. The US has been a 2-party system since the beginning.
I feel like the "This is the End!!! You have to vote for [party schmuck] or the country ends THIS YEAR!!!!11!!" method of campaigning is more prominent in the later half of the 20th century and today then it was at the beginning of the country, but I may be mistaken. Certainly even at the start the Founders had disagreements about the direction of government. While we are (and have been) a two party system, pressure from the voters has managed to not only switch which parties are the "two" (Whig, Democratic-Republican, Federalist, Bull Moose for one shining cycle) but also shift the direction of a major party (Democrats circa early mid 20th century, and maybe again circa 2016? we'll see). But none of that pressure can be brought to the parties if the faithful are unwilling to leave or abstain no matter what senile fool is offered to them.
Do you think there's a way of changing the built-in tendency toward a 2-party system before this November's elections? What should we do differently? I'm open to changing it, but won't it take at least a few election cycles?
Nope. I've lost hope of even convincing people not to vote for Biden. The Fear Porn is too strong and consistant
I think the big question you're not asking is why Republicans are so insistent on nominating Trump instead of the Person Who Obviously Should Be the Republican Nominee (PWOSBRN). We had a much better choice within the 2-party system, but we went with Trump, instead. Why? That's not because of any party system, or winner-take-all, first-past-the-post elections. It's because we wanted to put our feels (gotta own the libs! love Trump!) over electing the PWOSBRN. PWOSBRN has a record of combining massive electoral success, even in blue areas, while simultaneously advancing an America-first, pro-liberty, anti-SJW platform. The 2-party system didn't deprive us of that. That was a self-own.
You'd have to ask a Republican. I don't understand either of the apparent nominees. Unless the "F it burn it all down" contingent is bigger than it seems in both parties, which I guess is possible.
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How long would it take for the wonderful third party that's going to save our 'democracy' to be corrupted to the same extent as the two current parties? Not long I would think, and then we'd be back where we started.
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How long would it take for the wonderful third party that's going to save our 'democracy' to be corrupted to the same extent as the two current parties? Not long I would think, and then we'd be back where we started.
Considering 3rd parities usually are splinter groups from an already corrupt party will more than likely mean it will be corrupt to some extent in it's creation. Add to that political parties are by their very nature corrupt to a certain extend anyway.
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I think the reason a lot of people vote for Trump is that they despise the people that control the GOP. The GOP says conservative things, but on a national level they do almost nothing popular with the average voter, let alone doing anything conservative.
Remember all those great, conservative laws the GOP passed when they had the House, the Senate and the Presidency? Yeah, me neither. They only do what the rich donors tell them to.
Trump is perceived as being alternative this for average GOP voters who are sick of do-nothing Congressmen.
This perception persists, despite the fact Trump a horrible person who isn't very competent and running things. Trump is very, very good at PR though. That's good enough for low information voters.
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How long would it take for the wonderful third party that's going to save our 'democracy' to be corrupted to the same extent as the two current parties? Not long I would think, and then we'd be back where we started.
I didn't say it would save our democracy* I said it would be better than continuing down this path. Reminding the parties that if they stray too far from the center path they can be swapped out wholesale might put a governor on the hand basket's engine. As it is both party's apparatchiks only listen to money and power, as Pb noted, because their voters have trained them that candidate quality and accomplishments are not related to votes recieved.
Well by all means keep voting for the lesser of two evils, it's going swimmingly. Maybe we'll get a third Uniparty war for Christmas next year. What's the definition of insanity again?
*I know you were being sarcastic, but generally if I'm talking politics with someone and they use the phrase "Our Democracy " I take that as a sign to end the discussion, and slowly back away while avoiding eye contact.
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Both sides are always afraid of "throwing away their vote" on a third (or fourth or fifth) party candidate. How do you break that barrier?
Ranked choice voting
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think the big question you're not asking is why Republicans are so insistent on nominating Trump
This iteration of Trump is the best way to sabotage the Republican party. To answer the question, ask " who wants to sabotage the Republican party".
The first iteration of Trump was a plausible "none of the above" or "something different" lever. This iteration is not.
You'll get no argument from me that the Republican party is in crisis but trump will not overcome that nor reform the party. His first term proved that.
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Ranked choice voting
That's how you get mediocre candidates, IMO. It's still the two party system, but the minority party votes for the majority party guy with the smallest cajones, in hopes of diluting the opposing party. In ranked choice, if the R candidates are DeSantis and Jeb Bush, the Ds try to force a Jeb candidacy.
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This iteration of Trump is the best way to sabotage the Republican party. To answer the question, ask " who wants to sabotage the Republican party".
The first iteration of Trump was a plausible "none of the above" or "something different" lever. This iteration is not.
You'll get no argument from me that the Republican party is in crisis but trump will not overcome that nor reform the party. His first term proved that.
Maybe I’m not making myself clear….*expletive deleted*ck the Republican Party. They need to crash and burn.
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Maybe I’m not making myself clear….*expletive deleted*ck the Republican Party. They need to crash and burn.
And there you have part of the answer...a contingent of nominal Republicans are so fed up with the party they are engaging in self-harm. This is definitely a factor imo.
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*I know you were being sarcastic, but generally if I'm talking politics with someone and they use the phrase "Our Democracy " I take that as a sign to end the discussion, and slowly back away while avoiding eye contact.
As well you should. Hell, even supposed Republicans who should know better are talking about "saving our Democracy." It's in the name of their party for cryin' out loud.
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And there you have part of the answer...a contingent of nominal Republicans are so fed up with the party they are engaging in self-harm. This is definitely a factor imo.
The GOP hasn’t done a single thing for America in my lifetime
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Getting people to vote against the other party has always been more effective than getting people to vote for their party.
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As expected SC goes Trump
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And there you have part of the answer...a contingent of nominal Republicans are so fed up with the party they are engaging in self-harm. This is definitely a factor imo.
The RNC leadership are a bunch of elitists who need to be purged. Calling that "self harm"? Odd way of thinking. The RNC has gone out of their way to work against more conservative candidates in Congressional elections. If anything is "self-harm", it is that.
Trump isn't perfect. There is no perfect candidate. There never was one. The candidate you think is perfect has just successfully hidden the things you wouldn't like. Trump doesn't seem to hide anything. It is a nice change over most politicians in recent decades. Complaining about mean tweets or other negatives is pointless.
My position is pretty much the same as 2016. I don't expect him to save the world. I don't expect a conservative, libertarian savior. Just move things back away from where they have been headed just a little more. Trump's SC appointments in the first term have done a lot of that (they aren't perfect either before someone complains). Far too many examples to mention in the last few years of all the things could have been a whole lot worse.
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Complaining about mean tweets or other negatives is pointless.
Maybe, but my complaint is that this is an incredibly easy fix for anyone with even a little self-discipline. By showing some, he would gain way more "fencesitting" supporters that otherwise agree with many of his policies than lose the small percentage of "we love Trump being mean" supporters. That he can't do so is a weakness, IMO.
On the campaign, I heard an interesting hypothesis this morning: Haley is staying in till the bitter end with part of the strategy being that there could be a "black swan" event for Trump that will take him out. This is not necessarily a bad strategy if you remove the bias of who you like or don't like. Trump has so far come out strong after each attack, but there is a not low possibility that the establishment will find a way to destroy him. Haley figures if she sticks it out and is "already there" that she will be the obvious nominee.
As of now it's 107 Trump to 17 Haley, with 1215 needed to win. So while Trump is killing it now, you just never know.
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If he was going to "fix" it, he would have done so in 2016. He mouths off at press conferences and he does it online as well. That is just who he is.
I say it is pointless because that is part of what took him to the top of the primaries in 2016. R voters were tired of other R candidates saying bland remarks and being polite to media people that hate them. Trump was willing to speak his mind. Sometimes the remarks land, sometimes they don't. He doesn't apologize for it.
As I said in 2016, I would rather see every other federal candidate forced to personally comment online daily like Trump does. I think it would be entertaining and informative. Perhaps even force federal administration executives to do the same thing.
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Trump was willing to speak his mind. Sometimes the remarks land, sometimes they don't. He doesn't apologize for it.
Sure, I can agree with that. However guys like DeSantis and Vivek seem to be able to do it without coming off as childish. Those two guys can both dish it out and take it. Trump can dish it out, but he can't take it.
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The RNC leadership are a bunch of elitists who need to be purged. Calling that "self harm"? Odd way of thinking.
Trump isn't the RNC leadership? After being president of the United States, and being in a clear path to being the next candidate?
Or are you saying Trump is the RNC leadership, and he should be purged by...nominating him and voting for him for president?
Trying to grasp the logic here.
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Sure, I can agree with that. However guys like DeSantis and Vivek seem to be able to do it without coming off as childish. Those two guys can both dish it out and take it. Trump can dish it out, but he can't take it.
Correct and concise. The thing about Trump is a good deal of Americans follow Trump because he continually points out what a corrupt, clown show our 2 party system and government in general has become. I sort of like it too. America loves an underdog, especially if he is getting kicked. The political parties, and their apparatchiks (media) have painted Trump in a way that their followers have been taught to irrationally hate him due to their lies and obfuscations about him, and their minds have become closed. Trump in a perverse sort of way contributes to that image.
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The RNC leadership are a bunch of elitists who need to be purged.
I agree completely... but Trump was an utter failure at that. I don't think we should be nominating him to fail again.
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Y’all need to understand that there is not a way to fix anything until the collapse happens. The politicians are far too entrenched to be budged out by mere voting.
Trump is pure shits and giggles with the bonus of giving the leftists coronaries. It really doesn't matter who is actually president, we’re still going to hell in a handbasket.
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https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1761907714861433156
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Never too early to start
Russia is already spreading disinformation in advance of the 2024 election, using fake online accounts and bots to damage President Joe Biden and his fellow Democrats, according to former U.S. officials and cyber experts.
The dissemination of attacks on Biden is part of a continuing effort by Moscow to undercut American military aid to Ukraine and U.S. support for and solidarity with NATO, experts said.
"Experts said."
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Moscow and its proxies have long sought to exploit divisions in American society. But experts and former U.S. officials said Trump’s false claims that the 2020 election was stolen, the country's deepening political polarization and sharp cuts in disinformation and election integrity teams at X and other platforms provide fertile ground to spread confusion, division and chaos.
NBC News: Russia's 2024 Election Interference Has Already Begun
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/26/nbc-news-russias-2024-election-interference-has-already-begun-n2393345
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At the risk of stating the obvious: Biden is funding Russia's enemy in a hot war. Trump has publicly said he would slow or stop that support, and Trumps voting base is on board with that policy. Russia would have to be retarded NOT to be trying everything it could to help Trump's elections chances.
I've seen no evidence that the FSB is retarded.
I'd imagine Chinese bots and social media is attempting to help Biden out for much the same reason.
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At the risk of stating the obvious: Biden is funding Russia's enemy in a hot war. Trump has publicly said he would slow or stop that support, and Trumps voting base is on board with that policy. Russia would have to be retarded NOT to be trying everything it could to help Trump's elections chances.
I've seen no evidence that the FSB is retarded.
I'd imagine Chinese bots and social media is attempting to help Biden out for much the same reason.
Oh I agree but that's not the point. The point is the media is getting the excuses going early for if the dems lose in Nov.
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As I pointed out to a long awkward silence at the last dinner with my inlaws this "excuse" is basically:
"Potential Democratic voters are so *expletive deleted*ing stupid Russian Bots on Facebook convinced them to vote for Trump"
Not the ringing endorsement of their electorate they may have wished it was.
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At the risk of stating the obvious: Biden is funding Russia's enemy in a hot war. Trump has publicly said he would slow or stop that support, and Trumps voting base is on board with that policy. Russia would have to be retarded NOT to be trying everything it could to help Trump's elections chances.
I've seen no evidence that the FSB is retarded.
I'd imagine Chinese bots and social media is attempting to help Biden out for much the same reason.
Really though they don’t have to do a lot because Biden is making it very clear he is Herbet the Pervert with dementia
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Trump isn't the RNC leadership? After being president of the United States, and being in a clear path to being the next candidate?
Or are you saying Trump is the RNC leadership, and he should be purged by...nominating him and voting for him for president?
Trying to grasp the logic here.
The informal leader of the party is not usually in the leadership of the RNC or DNC.
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The informal leader of the party is not usually in the leadership of the RNC or DNC.
The RNC is really just a fundraising arm. Other than how they direct the funds raised they don't really control party policy or positions.
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So they control the party and policy positions of all the Republicans that are dependant on their funding. So like 95% of the party. Got it. Totally not the leadership of the party then.
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Kamala Harris says the federal government is going to pay college students to register voters for the election
pic.twitter.com/g0ZfmIR7D8
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) February 28, 2024
Imagine Trump doing/saying this. The media and the left would have a meltdown. But hey , it’s Kamala, so they will say how wonderful it is. The hypocrisy is mind numbing. https://t.co/PR8gIre9Eq
— TheAmishTerp (@TheAmishTerp) February 28, 2024
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/28/kamala-harris-says-federal-govt-will-pay-college-students-to-register-voters-and-more-n2393416
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https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/28/kamala-harris-says-federal-govt-will-pay-college-students-to-register-voters-and-more-n2393416
Aw, come on - there won't be any hanky panky there.
Says the guy who, when he started grad school and needed to register in his new county, thought, "I'll just use this booth with the industrious and helpful college kids doing voter registration right here on campus". Somehow the registration that I marked "Republican" never got recorded. Had I not checked, I would have missed a presidential election. This was back in the 90s.
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The informal leader of the party is not usually in the leadership of the RNC or DNC.
Who leading the GOP?
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Who leading the GOP?
If you're asking about who's leading the voting base of the GOP, then it looks like Trump is. If you want to know who's in charge of the party machinery, then I don't know.
As for the RNC, McDaniel was Trump's pick.
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If you're asking about who's leading the voting base of the GOP, then it looks like Trump is. If you want to know who's in charge of the party machinery, then I don't know.
As for the RNC, McDaniel was Trump's pick.
Was she his pick from 2016/17?
I saw an article saying Michael Whatley is Trump's current pick. I haven't kept up with the current leadership.
The RNC is one of several groups who direct money to key candidates around the country. I think Congressional leaders such as McConnel control other purse strings. Beyond that I don't know what power they actually have.
I think the Congressman that Brandon Herrera is trying to challenge is funded by one or more those groups.
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The Republican voters have been calling for her to resign for over 3 years. Most voters stopped donating to them, and she was wasting funds on herself, so they don't have much money to work with right now.
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In my tiny segment of personal acquaintances back in college, I knew of two who bragged they voted both at their college addresses and their home addresses.
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Trump and Biden both at the border. Biden talked about climate change and Neanderthals in Congress. Trump talked to Laken Riley's parents. Trump is still running 2:1 on "aw shits" vs "attaboys" in his speeches, but this was an attaboy.
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/29/donald-trump-at-border-confirms-he-spoke-to-laken-rileys-parents-n2393489
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Apparently the SC is going to rule tomorrow, 04MAR, on if Trump can be on ballots or not.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/us-supreme-court-ruling-on-trump-ballot-case-could-come-monday-5599591
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It would probably help Trump if the court ruled against him.
He wouldn't win the states that ban him anyway, and it would just whip up his base.
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In other news, I saw an article proclaiming that "DR." Jill Biden is going to take a more active role on Brandon's campaign, so I made myself start to watch one of her speeches. I lasted about 15 seconds. Her voice is like a cat's claws on a blackboard. Yikes!
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He bears quite a bit of blame for the inflation we have been having, due to policies by his Fed appointees during his last year in office. His supporters don't seem to realize this. His first three years were mostly good, but his decisions during his final year were awful.
Trump made the mistake of believing that the "best and the brightest" in a field that he knew nothing about, were actually the "best and the brightest."
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What a lot of the progs don't realize is that the Tea Party folks are still out there, only they don't call themselves that... The prog faithful are VERY into the dogma, so much so that it is distancing the folks who aren't quite that crazy... They HAVE to keep self-affirming... And that turns a lot of folks off, damn near as much as the truth about a few things...
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Apparently Haley won a caucus. I saw it on Reddit and everyone in the sub said that it meant the end for Trump. It wasn't until I checked a news site to see that it was DC. :rofl:
I'm not sure if there is any worse PR for a Republican campaign than their candidate winning DC. :laugh:
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Apparently Haley won a caucus. I saw it on Reddit and everyone in the sub said that it meant the end for Trump. It wasn't until I checked a news site to see that it was DC. :rofl:
I'm not sure if there is any worse PR for a Republican campaign than their candidate winning DC. :laugh:
So Trump has only lost DC so far
If DC fears a candidate it no doubt means that candidate is good for the country
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Trump made the mistake of believing that the "best and the brightest" in a field that he knew nothing about, were actually the "best and the brightest."
What kind of idiot would think forcing businesses to close would make an airborne virus go away?
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What kind of idiot would think forcing businesses to close would make an airborne virus go away?
Wasn't the point, or goal.
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9-0 in Pres Trump's favor.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-unanimously-for-trump-in-colorado-ballot-disqualification-dispute
I'm genuinely stunned. I figured a couple of Justices would go the Ultra Lib route and vote against him because Orange Man Bad!. That they didn't is a huge neon "Get Your Head Out!" to remaining states with delusions of grandeur.
Brad
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9-0 in Pres Trump's favor.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-unanimously-for-trump-in-colorado-ballot-disqualification-dispute
I'm genuinely stunned. I figured a couple of Justices would go the Ultra Lib route and vote against him because Orange Man Bad!. That they didn't is a huge neon "Get Your Head Out!" to remaining states with delusions of grandeur.
Brad
Told you all
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I can hear lefty heads exploding way over here in extremist conservative country.
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I can hear lefty heads exploding way over here in extremist conservative country.
"Allowing people to vote for whomever they like is a threat to Our Democracytm !!"
I promise someone will post that on twitter before lunch, if they haven't already.
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Honestly I'm going to be shocked if someone on the left doesn't try to take Trump out.
At this point suicide bombing could even be on the table if they're willing to set themselves on fire over Gaza
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"Allowing people to vote for whomever they like is a threat to Our Democracytm !!"
I promise someone will post that on twitter before lunch, if they haven't already.
Post this to twitter. A bunch may not know what the Babylon Bee is
In Major Blow To Democracy, Supreme Court Rules Voters Can Vote For Favorite Candidate
https://babylonbee.com/news/in-shocking-blow-to-democracy-supreme-court-affirms-voters-can-vote-for-candidate-they-want
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The Supreme Court has betrayed democracy. Its members including Jackson, Kagan and Sotomayor have proved themselves inept at reading comprehension. And collectively the "court" has shown itself to be corrupt and illegitimate.
It must be dissolved.
— Keith Olbermann⌚️ (@KeithOlbermann) March 4, 2024
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/03/04/lefties-melt-down-after-scotus-trump-decision-n2393581
Is SCOTUS deliberately creating a legal pathway to let Trump be president for life by invalidating the self-execution of the two-term limit?
— MRF 🏳️🌈 (@mliles329) March 4, 2024
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I expected nothing else from Olbermann.
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I expected nothing else from Olbermann.
If that guy, in a scary nightmare world, had real power, there would be giant furnaces in every state where his jackboots would be burning pretty much 80% of the population. He's legit mentally ill.
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RNC Research
@RNCResearch
Democrat Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold says her reaction to the Supreme Court's unanimous decision is "disappointment."
"It will be up to the American voters to save our democracy in November."
She's got those crazy eyes going
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1764704838636441852
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Cockroaches never sleep.
They're going to try everything they can.
Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin immediately goes on CNN to announce he and Eric Swalwell are working to "revive legislation" to force President Trump off the ballot pic.twitter.com/QcYhBQn0JK
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) March 4, 2024
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1764703589916627041
Rep. Jamie Raskin Announces Dems' Next Move Against Trump After 9-0 SCOTUS Smackdown
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/03/04/rep-jamie-raskin-announces-dems-next-move-against-trump-after-9-0-scotus-smackdown-n2393589
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Meanwhile over at MSNBC
Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson 'protest' majority in Colorado Trump ballot case
So is voting for something protesting something now? :facepalm:
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Meanwhile over at MSNBC
So is voting for something protesting something now? :facepalm:
It's a quote from their opinion, so yes?
Although we agree that Colorado cannot enforce Section 3, we protest the majority’s effort to use this case to define the limits of federal enforcement of that provision. Because we would decide only the issue before us, we concur only in the judgment.
[bolding mine]
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I think she's just trying to not get thrown into the oven by the left along with the rest of the court. "See! I was actually against it!"
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Now how many states are going to defy the Supreme Court and keep Trump off the ballot?
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I sincerely hope the voters overturn Democracy. If they do, it would be in line with the Founders who had no use for Democracy as they, as you all know, created a Constitutional Republic. I would be gloriously happy to see Democracy thrown into the dumpster where it belongs.
The amusing thing, the ironic thing, would be the danger the Libtard Leftists would be in if we really had a Democracy where the 51% of Americans would vote them onto a remote island in the Pacific Ocean where they could "celebrate" all the obnoxious things they seem to stand for.
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Dems Quietly Ask SCOTUS If They Can Ban Biden From Ballot
https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-quietly-ask-scotus-if-they-can-ban-biden-from-ballot
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I think we should all start practicing saying 'Good morning, President Trump' in preparation for the future.
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I'm curious to see if Haley wins anything today. Most are saying it will be a blowout for Trump, but I heard Virginia might go Nikki.
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I think we should all start practicing saying 'Good morning, President Trump' in preparation for the future.
Start selling one way tickets to Canada
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Start selling one way tickets to Canada
I am not looking forward to seeing that crap again everyday. I don't care if you're left or right - if you're gonna be an "I'm moving to Canada!" blowhard, then shutup and just move.
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I think we should all start practicing saying 'Good morning, President Trump' in preparation for the future.
Given the Democrat's control over the elections apparatus in many states, including all of the important swing states, you may be counting your sheep before the are hatched. Trump's lead in the polls isn't such that it couldn't be overcome by fraud at this point.
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I think we're going to see MAJOR fraud, with many of the "voterseses" feeling justified in making sure that "he's worse than a Nazi" isn't elected.
They need to serial number, and track, absentee ballots. And they won't.
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I think we're going to see MAJOR fraud, with many of the "voterseses" feeling justified in making sure that "he's worse than a Nazi" isn't elected.
They need to serial number, and track, absentee ballots. And they won't.
We need to abolish mail in voting (except for deployed military and a few other special cases). In person, single day voting only for the vast majority of people, ID/citizenship verification required, dip your finger in indelible ink.
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We need to abolish mail in voting (except for deployed military and a few other special cases). In person, single day voting only for the vast majority of people, ID/citizenship verification required, dip your finger in indelible ink.
I used to do and liked mail-in voting, but I already started questioning it in 2016 and 2020 was the last straw. I too, say show up except in special cases. I'm fine with coming up with new ways to make in-person voting more efficient.
While I don't have the problem in my rural state, I know in some big cities people have to wait multiple hours to vote. Something should be done to streamline that. While voting is a right and a responsibility, I don't think you should have to wait in line for more than an hour in the USA. Fixing that would remove a large portion of the complaints that have led to widespread mail-in voting.
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We need to abolish mail in voting (except for deployed military and a few other special cases). In person, single day voting only for the vast majority of people, ID/citizenship verification required, dip your finger in indelible ink.
Quoted for truth
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Meanwhile on Planet Brandon Biden is ranting that he is ahead of Trump in the polls and the press isn't reporting it.
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Well, Virginia didn't go for Haley or even get close to doing so. Vermont is actually pretty close. Everyone else reporting in so far has Trump leading by wide margins.
https://twitchy.com/twitchystaff/2024/03/05/its-super-tuesday-and-twitchy-has-all-your-live-results-n2393625
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Looks like more than likely will be a clean sweep for Trump
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Musk meeting with Trump is fueling rumors Elon will be backing him
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The AK Guy did well enough that he's headed for a runoff with the Republican incumbent.
I honestly hope Brandon wins that. Even if my YouTube will be less fun, CSPAN will be significantly more entertaining.
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Looks like more than likely will be a clean sweep for Trump
Haley got Vermont
But
Breaking: Nikki Haley Suspends Presidential Campaign
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/03/06/nikki-haley-suspends-campaign-n2393659
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Now how many states are going to defy the Supreme Court and keep Trump off the ballot?
Bypass the states
And not to keep just Trump off the ballot.
Calling it "one on a huge list of priorities," Rep. Jamie Raskin, D., Md., announced that he will be reintroducing a prior bill with Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., and Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., to disqualify not just former President Donald Trump but a large number of Republicans from taking office.
He pledged to reintroduce a prior bill that would declare Jan. 6 an "insurrection" and that those involved "engaged in insurrection."
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democrats-rush-keep-trump-off-ballot-scotus-decision-election-voters
Has a snowball chance in hell and I would like to see more details on the bill but it does gives a clue in just how far they're willing to go with this madness
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Brandon Herrera didn't win, but he forced Gonzales into a runoff. Herrera would need to pick up almost all of the votes that went to Clark, Lopez, and Avila to have topped Gonzales. Doesn't look great, but who knows.
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Like a broken record
Joy Reid: Republicans Prefer Trump Because They’re Racist
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I see that Washington state was counting my presidential primary vote for Nikki Haley just as she was withdrawing from the race.
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So do you guys think there will be a Trump vs Biden debate before the election? Talking heads all seem to be pointing to "no". Whether it's conservatives calling Biden a chicken, or lefties saying "he doesn't need to lower himself to a debate", the consensus seems to be that there won't be a debate.
I'm leaning towards "no" as well. I just can't see his handlers allowing it. In a live debate, as soon as Trump starts being Trump and throwing "non-previewed" questions at Biden, Biden will lock up, and there's no going back from the optics of that.
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I'm not sure they can justify skipping a debate to the normies.
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I'm not sure they can justify skipping a debate to the normies.
"The President doesn't lower himself to debate with someone indicted on multiple felonies."
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"The President doesn't lower himself to debate with someone indicted on multiple felonies."
And a known insurrectionist
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Notice they're trying to paint Biden as friend of Gaza now
Biden to order U.S. military to set up emergency PORT in Gaza to help get aid in: Thousands of American troops on ships with armed escorts could be sent to the Mediterranean Sea to build temporary pier
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13169935/biden-gaza-emergency-port-palestine-support-israel-ceasefire.html
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No need for Biden to debate because even if Trump is elected, he won't be a legitimate president. And just like that, insurrection is cool again!
https://www.foxnews.com/media/view-co-hosts-angrily-suggest-biden-doesnt-need-lower-himself-debate-trump
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Well, since Biden is running for Senate and Trump is running for President, I'm not sure why they would debate.
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The MSM staying classy
Rep. Nancy Mace eviscerates ABC’s George Stephanopoulos after he asks, “As a rape victim... how can you endorse Trump?”
“You're asking me a question about my political choices, trying to shame me as a rape victim. And I find it disgusting,” said Mace.pic.twitter.com/rvCXJ4Z6rp
— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) March 10, 2024
Nancy Mace Absolutely ENDS George Stephanopoulos for Shaming Her As a Rape Victim to Attack Trump (Watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/03/11/nancy-mace-george-stephanopoulos-n2393837
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Well they better get started on printing those ballots.
My succession plan:
A) Joe & Kamala win in Nov
B) Dem House & Senate expand the SCOTUS to 13
C) Joe appoints Kamala to SCOTUS
D) names Newsome as VP
E) Joe steps down in 2026
F) Gavin becomes POTUS
G) Names Pete Buttigieg as VP
H) They run as wildly successful incumbents in ‘28
— Pam Keith, Esq. (@PamKeithFL) March 10, 2024
I) Gavin serves a second term w/Pete as VP
J) Pete runs as a a presumptive nominee in ‘32 with AOC as VP
— Pam Keith, Esq. (@PamKeithFL) March 10, 2024
Pam Keith 'Esq.' Uncorks Bizarre, Rambling Plan to Make Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg President and VP
https://twitchy.com/coucy/2024/03/11/unhinged-succession-plan-pam-keith-n2393852
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This crazy lefty just got me to vote for Trump. Agenda 47 baby! Flying cars and guns for everyone!!!
https://youtu.be/6zBbDciT8fk
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I don't keep up with the daily news stuff. I hadn't heard Lara Trump was taking over at the RNC. I haven't heard much, but what I am hearing in this video sounds good. Essentially use every legal means to register and get more voters to the polls. I will have to keep an eye out for other stuff they are doing.
Dems PANIC after Lara Trump's FIRST MASSIVE Ballot Harvesting Hire as New RNC Chair | SCOTT PRESLER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Cdc0l56hM
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I don't keep up with the daily news stuff. I hadn't heard Lara Trump was taking over at the RNC. I haven't heard much, but what I am hearing in this video sounds good. Essentially use every legal means to register and get more voters to the polls. I will have to keep an eye out for other stuff they are doing.
Dems PANIC after Lara Trump's FIRST MASSIVE Ballot Harvesting Hire as New RNC Chair | SCOTT PRESLER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Cdc0l56hM
I am conflicted on Lara. She was really good as part of his last campaign, and I actually think she'll do a good job with the RNC, but I'm wondering if the "nepotism optics" will be distracting with her RNC role.
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I am conflicted on Lara. She was really good as part of his last campaign, and I actually think she'll do a good job with the RNC, but I'm wondering if the "nepotism optics" will be distracting with her RNC role.
IDGAF as long as she drains some of the swamp.
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IDGAF as long as she drains some of the swamp she starts using the same tactics the Dems have been using for years to ensure they collect every possible vote.
FTFY
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FTFY
I can live with that
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We need both.
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Yeah, the main thing I want to see is the RNC changing their tactics and being more active. From the interview, it sounds like that is what they will do. Hopefully, we will see better results.
I would also like to see them stop supporting Congressional candidates that thumb their noses at voters, but that remains to be seen.
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Yeah, the main thing I want to see is the RNC changing their tactics and being more active. From the interview, it sounds like that is what they will do. Hopefully, we will see better results.
I would also like to see them stop supporting Congressional candidates that thumb their noses at voters, but that remains to be seen.
I think that would need to be done before the primaries. From a party perspective, once their on the general ballot, the RNC gotta run the horse they have.
That's one of the things I dislike about parties, actually.
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She did go in and clean a bunch of them out. The media called it a, wait for it. BLOODBATH. This was just a week ago and the media already forgot what the word means because Orange man used it in his speech.
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Posted without comment.
An official from the White House National Security Council questioned the election process, who said: "The elections are obviously not free nor fair given how Mr. Putin has imprisoned political opponents and prevented others from running against him."
https://twitter.com/saltygoat17/status/1769519604219445443
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I mean, I guess we knew it, but some more confirmation.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/03/19/google-helping-democrats-n2394135
Interestingly, I was searching "Biden being incoherent" and "Trump being incoherent" the other day, and there were more, and more varied, hits on Trump than Biden, despite it being what Biden is known for. It seemed like 90% of the Biden hits were from Sky News Australia.
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This crazy lefty just got me to vote for Trump. Agenda 47 baby! Flying cars and guns for everyone!!!
https://youtu.be/6zBbDciT8fk
I haven't seen or heard most of these alleged promises from the Trump camp. He promised some of the same things the first time he ran. I still dislike and distrust him because he basically promised us national concealed carry and then didn't even propose legislation to make it happen.
Nonetheless, he turned out to be a better president than I expected. If he's the R nominee this time, I'll vote for him for the same reason I voted for him previously: not because I like him, but because I don't want see the D nominee elected.
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I still dislike and distrust him because he basically promised us national concealed carry and then didn't even propose legislation to make it happen.
I have mixed feelings about national CC. What the government can give you in one swoop the government can take away in one swoop and considering how congress bounces from one side to the other by only a few votes that scares me so in many ways I want the feds to stay out of it.
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I haven't seen or heard most of these alleged promises from the Trump camp.
It's a real thing. The lefty, of course, exaggerated a bunch of it. I still want my flying car though.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
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I haven't seen or heard most of these alleged promises from the Trump camp. He promised some of the same things the first time he ran. I still dislike and distrust him because he basically promised us national concealed carry and then didn't even propose legislation to make it happen.
Nonetheless, he turned out to be a better president than I expected. If he's the R nominee this time, I'll vote for him for the same reason I voted for him previously: not because I like him, but because I don't want see the D nominee elected.
I ain't expecting Trump to save the world, just make a good effort to clean up some of Biden's mess and shake things up in D.C.
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I have mixed feelings about national CC. What the government can give you in one swoop the government can take away in one swoop and considering how congress bounces from one side to the other by only a few votes that scares me so in many ways I want the feds to stay out of it.
Concur. Forget national reciprocity. We should be pushing for national Constitutional carry.
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I ain't expecting Trump to save the world, just make a good effort to clean up some of Biden's mess and shake things up in D.C.
I was hoping DeSantis could make a real difference in Washington. With Trump, it would just be nice to have an American in the White House again, and hopefully if there are any transgender puppy-play perverts in the White House, they at least won't be bragging about it.
And I'm not gonna lie, all the Democrat screeching would be hilarious.
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I know she's not technically running for anything this year, but Tulsi Gabbard went on Trump Jr's show (podcast?) to discuss her change of view on the 2A. Interestingly she flat says that RKBA was for use against a tyrannical government in between the usual "protect yourself" platitudes.
I feel like she's definitely positioning for a run for something, if not in 2024 then down the road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz_EcLNSC08
Needs a dot on that 2011 though: https://youtube.com/shorts/TKwP3QCbfV8?si=-JbHdtLAjDZoscpH
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I know she's not technically running for anything this year, but Tulsi Gabbard went on Trump Jr's show (podcast?) to discuss her change of view on the 2A. Interestingly she flat says that RKBA was for use against a tyrannical government in between the usual "protect yourself" platitudes.
I feel like she's definitely positioning for a run for something, if not in 2024 then down the road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz_EcLNSC08
Needs a dot on that 2011 though: https://youtube.com/shorts/TKwP3QCbfV8?si=-JbHdtLAjDZoscpH
I watched parts of that interview, as well as a longer video on her channel from a year ago where she detailed her changed views. My takeaway was that she used to be in the "pro-2nd, but common sense" group until she started seeing how her fellow dems would use catch phrases like that for many things as a way to slowly erode rights.
She seems to be tying in her current views of the 2nd first and foremost being a vital tool to defend from tyrannical government as part of the rest of her departure from the dems regarding what she says is their path to banana republic land. Whether sincere or not (as of now I believe she's sincere), being red-pilled into being a staunch gun rights supporter would certainly coincide with the other "tyrannical government" stuff she talks about of late. I saw that she has been doing tactical rifle and other training.
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I watched parts of that interview, as well as a longer video on her channel from a year ago where she detailed her changed views. My takeaway was that she used to be in the "pro-2nd, but common sense" group until she started seeing how her fellow dems would use catch phrases like that for many things as a way to slowly erode rights.
She seems to be tying in her current views of the 2nd first and foremost being a vital tool to defend from tyrannical government as part of the rest of her departure from the dems regarding what she says is their path to banana republic land. Whether sincere or not (as of now I believe she's sincere), being red-pilled into being a staunch gun rights supporter would certainly coincide with the other "tyrannical government" stuff she talks about of late. I saw that she has been doing tactical rifle and other training.
I don't think I was always hard line for gun rights. In a similar way, I started to recognize that any exception that allows govt to limit the right is used as a wedge to put in more limits. Banning guns becomes the solution to everything even sometimes when guns were not involved. And I realized that whatever fear there was of a world with unlimited gun rights, there is more to fear in a world with no gun rights.
Activists can never be trusted. Never be trusted to implement good policy that lasts.
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My tinfoil is firmly in place as I type:
I think there is a good chance that the Trump team is setting things up for a Trump/Tulsi announcement. She has in the span of a week been on Trump Jr's show, an hour long interview on Tucker's show (she's actually on there a bit), and several other interviews I've caught, or at least seen in my youtube feed but haven't watched more than snippets of yet. But she has in all of them been giving answers that a lot of R, and even libertarian voters, generally want to hear about everything from gun rights to stopping establishment elites on both sides of the aisle, to keeping our noses out of foreign conflict. She also, when asked if she would take a VP role, has given the, "I would serve in any role that helps my country" answer, which is pretty much a "yes". She has also really focused on her military background, and most all the former snake eater guys with podcasts sure do seem to like and respect her, which will obviously transfer to much of their audience.
In the last couple of days, I've seen a bunch of guntube channels in my feed talking about these interviews. Some enthusiastically, some with a good deal of skepticism. I don't trust any politicians, but my current stance is that Reagan and Trump were democrats at one point, so I am inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt that she has embraced many of the things that are important to me. I would not be against her in the VP role. She would certainly be better than someone like Pence, and it would lead to an interesting 2028, where she would be in a catbird seat position for a presidential run to keep a "not establishment" vibe going.
Regardless, what I've been seeing in the last couple of weeks sure does seem like there might be a Trump PR machine behind the scenes to get positive PR out there on her positions and how she would be just as anti-establishment as Trump. Plus for the younger voters that don't like Trump, she might be seen as the path to someone they want in 2028.
Anyway, the recent "Tulsi blitz" has me curious. Also, I have a really crappy history about being right about political stuff, so there's a good chance that I'm wrong here.
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Trump also has a history of like a magician distracting you with one hand while he pulls a ping pong ball out of his pocket with the other. So we'll see.
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Trump also has a history of like a magician distracting you with one hand while he pulls a ping pong ball out of his pocket with the other.
True, but I will still bet that if not a VP role, she will end up in his cabinet or as a senior advisor. Though the latter roles I wouldn't wish on anybody, given how so many of his previous senior staff went form "the brightest person in the world" to "imbecile" status. The VP role is a bit protected from that.
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What Republican could he choose who would gain him support? Most are either already popular with Trump supporters or they would be suspected never-Trumpers or might erode support. Someone like Tulsi has a chance of giving him access to a different set of voters. She is also most likely anti-Biden and anti-DNC leadership.
Regardless, she is still a better choice than Biden/Harris.
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Holy hell - the Biden team is trying to gaslight people into believing that Trump is the guy in the basement, afraid to engage. I would say that people can't be this stupid, but...
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/03/28/considering-the-timing-biden-harris-campaigns-attempted-slam-on-trump-is-an-embarrassing-fail-n2394516
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What Republican could he choose who would gain him support? Most are either already popular with Trump supporters or they would be suspected never-Trumpers or might erode support. Someone like Tulsi has a chance of giving him access to a different set of voters. She is also most likely anti-Biden and anti-DNC leadership.
Regardless, she is still a better choice than Biden/Harris.
You like her that much? =D
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Some gaslighting from He Who Sleeps With Chinese Spies
This election is NOT about a Democrat vs a Republican. It's about ALL Americans vs Extremism.
Re-electing @JoeBiden means:
Community, not chaos
Votes, not violence
Laws, not lies
Books, not bans
Truth, not tantrums https://t.co/8KkyFpCUZ9
— Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) March 30, 2024
https://twitchy.com/rickrobinson/2024/03/31/biden-sycophant-eric-swalwell-never-seems-to-know-when-to-stop-digging-n2394586
"Americans vs Extremism"
Guess which side of that he thinks he's on
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Now the Left pretend to be offended that Trump did an ad for an edition of the Bible that Lee Greenwood is selling.
They're "offended" that the ads are running on Holy Week. Because none are more zealous to protect the sanctity of Christian festivals than those pious fundies in Left-wing media, right?
They're "offended" that this Bible includes the text of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Which seems really silly, given there are Bibles now for every niche market (soldiers, teens, women, recovering addicts, etc). Yet they claim it's controversial to sell a version of the Bible that includes the founding documents of the US. Sure, Jan. Besides, shouldn't they want MAGA country to start reading the Constitution? Wouldn't that be good for Our Democracy?
They're offended that Trump is making money from the ads, which is awfully rich, coming from the same people that are so pleased with the Biden campaign's fundraising.
Then, most comically from my viewpoint, they complain about the price, roughly $60. Well, here:
KJV Large Print Compact Bible, Burgundy Cross LeatherTouch
https://a.co/d/0PmrIHt
That was the closest match I found on Amazon, and as you can see, Amazon charges about the same price. (Greenwood's website doesn't specify the binding or cover, so I'm guessing it's not an edge-lined, Corinthian leather cover, handmade by Ricardo Montalbán.) Granted, the cross-references in the Amazon Bible might cost more than just adding on the patriotic documents. On the other hand, we all know the celebrity endorsement is the main selling point for this Bible. My favorite is the guy on CNN, who decided to throw the entire dead-tree publishing industry under the bus, by pointing out that you can read the Bible online for free. I love an argument that cuts off the face, to spite the nose.
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I will be interested to watch the talking heads report on Trump's upcoming fundraiser. With the Biden/Obama/Clinton fundraiser, they gushed over all the celebrities and how Biden "blew Trump away" on $$$ raised, and that Trump could never pull something like that off. Trump's fundraiser is expected to significantly surpass Biden's. I expect the takeaways by the MSM to be "billionaires and fraud". :rofl:
FTR, I'm not crazy about richy riches contributing seven figures to any candidate's political funds. It's hard not expect undue influence because of the contribution. Still, it will be fun to watch the heads explode when Trump's fundraiser is tallied up.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-aims-shatter-bidens-fundraising-record-with-top-dollar-palm-beach-gathering
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"White people are scare of brown people and if Trump wins he's going declare himself king of the world to put us in camps"
ABC sitcom star warns of White backlash against minorities following 2024 election: ‘Have us in camps’
https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-sitcom-star-warns-white-backlash-against-minorities-following-2024-election-have-camps
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And if you thought that was insane you ain't see anything yet
The below is NOT the Babylon Bee
https://twitter.com/RobProvince/status/1776638913177678002
Make It Stop: Pennsylvania Biden Voters Attempt to CRINGE People Into Voting Trump (WATCH)
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2024/04/06/cringe-pennsylvania-biden-voters-video-n2394810
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Trump took in over $50 million in his fundraiser, surpassing the "record" that the MSM gushed about from Biden's fundraiser. CNN actually covered it, though they compared it to Bidens' March total, which was more. Hilariously (and expectedly) , MSNBC just had stuff about Trump using murders to his advantage with uneducated, angry white male voters.
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Trump took in over $50 million in his fundraiser, surpassing the "record" that the MSM gushed about from Biden's fundraiser. CNN actually covered it, though they compared it to Bidens' March total, which was more. Hilariously (and expectedly) , MSNBC just had stuff about Trump using murders to his advantage with uneducated, angry white male voters.
And they're having a melt down over it.
ARGLE BARGLE REEE! Trump Raised $50.5 million for His Campaign in Just 1 Night and Lefties Cannot DEEEAL
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/04/07/trump-raised-50-million-in-one-night-and-lindy-li-cant-deal-n2394835
But that's okay, Hunter will sell a couple of paintings to some mystery Chinese buyer.
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Biden pulling out the big guns
President Biden and Vice President Harris’ re-election campaign has announced a new push to win over a group of voters that it claims is "a force to be reckoned with." The initiative comes just seven months ahead of the president’s rematch with presumptive Republican nominee, former President Trump.
As Biden seeks to win another term in the White House despite facing historic low approval ratings, Team Biden-Harris announced the launch of "Out for Biden-Harris." The campaign describes the program as a national effort to mobilize LGBTQ+ voters and community members across the country.
Biden, Harris announce new campaign push for LGBTQ support, call members 'a force to be reckoned with'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-harris-announce-new-campaign-push-lgbtq-support-call-members-force-reckoned
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Biden pulling out the big guns
Biden, Harris announce new campaign push for LGBTQ support, call members 'a force to be reckoned with'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-harris-announce-new-campaign-push-lgbtq-support-call-members-force-reckoned
Oh. I thought everything they'd done the last four years was a "campaign push for LGBTQ support." I'm a little nervous about what it will look like, if they increase their pervert-pandering. Sleepy Joe in the full "drag queen" get-up? Kamala becoming Karl?
I support them, though. Anything they can do to alienate parents with kids and grandkids in school, while at the same time they keep ignoring and demonizing white men...
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After the judge said Trump had to be in court every single day thus not allowing him to do any campaigning the Babylon Bee had the exact same thought I did
Judge Warns Trump Criminal Trial May Last Until, Say, November 6
https://babylonbee.com/news/judge-warns-trump-criminal-trial-may-last-until-say-november-6
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Lefties SQUEEING Over Michelle Obama Shopping at Target Without Being Recognized is SO Telling (Watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/04/21/michelle-obama-goes-to-target-n2395348
Trump should shop at Target next to trigger a boyott of Target
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Mark Hamill says that Biden is the best President that the US has ever had.
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2024/04/22/mark-hamill-joe-biden-best-president-n2395405
Best comment:
I haven’t seen acting this bad, since Corvette Summer.
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Mark Hamill says that Biden is the best President that the US has ever had.
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2024/04/22/mark-hamill-joe-biden-best-president-n2395405
Best comment:
Like I keep saying there's something in the water out there
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And like a bad smell she keeps coming back
Hillary has been popping up an awful lot lately. Look for her to be a possible “swap” candidate…
pic.twitter.com/pVaMXsfDW6
— Carol Roth (@caroljsroth) April 21, 2024
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/04/23/hillary-clinton-carol-roth-video-biden-n2395379
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And like a bad smell she keeps coming back
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/04/23/hillary-clinton-carol-roth-video-biden-n2395379
Perhaps. Dem's are stupid, after all. But I don't think swapping in a 76 year old woman that had obvious health issues while campaigning 8 years ago is the power move some are thinking.
If the D's want to be *really* evil, they will swap in some 40YO far leftist female Justin Trudeau. Someone that normally wouldn't get enough votes but can capitalize on 20 million or so "stop Trump!!" votes.
AOC scares me, or someone like Katie Hobbs. I think the only thing saving us from that move is the Establishment thinking they couldn't contol someone like that enough.
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Perhaps. Dem's are stupid, after all.
They are next level stupid, but not that stupid, IMO. I love Carol Roth, but I think she's off here. Hillary Clinton popping up is pure Hillary Clinton, who is still walking in the woods wondering what happened.
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Do the Dems have any younger, smart candidates? Tulsi is the only one I can think of and she has been pushed out. Most all the other choices I have seen are sort of brainless and probably wouldn't hold up unless running against someone spineless like Mitt Romney (or other establishment candidate).
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Do the Dems have any younger, smart candidates? Tulsi is the only one I can think of and she has been pushed out. Most all the other choices I have seen are sort of brainless and probably wouldn't hold up unless running against someone spineless like Mitt Romney (or other establishment candidate).
I think they may be looking for sacrificial lambs at this point to at least make a good showing of it and they've realizing Biden is too far gone for even that. Save the younger smarter ones for 2028, don't think Trump will be running then.
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Do the Dems have any younger, smart candidates? Tulsi is the only one I can think of and she has been pushed out. Most all the other choices I have seen are sort of brainless and probably wouldn't hold up unless running against someone spineless like Mitt Romney (or other establishment candidate).
Don't discount dem voters voting for a haircut over substance. I mean, Obama got in spouting motivational speaker nonsense because they though he was cool and black.
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Don't discount dem voters voting for a haircut over substance. I mean, Obama got in spouting motivational speaker nonsense because they though he was cool and black.
Clinton won in large part because he played a sax on the Tonight Show. The JFK-Nixon televised debate. Underestimating Charisma and stage presence has bitten the R's before.
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The JFK-Nixon televised debate. Underestimating Charisma and stage presence has bitten the R's before.
Remember reading something that said that the majority of those polled afterwards who listened to it on the radio said Nixon won while the majority of those who watched it on TV said Kennedy won
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Also in fairness, Rs will also vote on appearance. A pretty boy who wore a trident will always get votes on that, even if he turns out to be a prog.
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Do the Dems have any younger, smart candidates? Tulsi is the only one I can think of and she has been pushed out. Most all the other choices I have seen are sort of brainless and probably wouldn't hold up unless running against someone spineless like Mitt Romney (or other establishment candidate).
Newsome is a threat not to be underestimated
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Clinton won in large part because he played a sax on the Tonight Show. The JFK-Nixon televised debate. Underestimating Charisma and stage presence has bitten the R's before.
I thought it was the Arsenio Hall show.
Clinton also was pretty good at ignoring the "scandal" stuff that surrounded him and playing the "good old boy from Arkansas" act. IMO, Obama copied that act in his own way projecting the image he wanted and running as an intelligent moderate regardless of what his actual record was.
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I thought it was the Arsenio Hall show.
Clinton also was pretty good at ignoring the "scandal" stuff that surrounded him and playing the "good old boy from Arkansas" act. IMO, Obama copied that act in his own way projecting the image he wanted and running as an intelligent moderate regardless of what his actual record was.
And it doesn't hurt when the majority of the MSM is for all intents and purposes working for your campaign.
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Also in fairness, Rs will also vote on appearance. A pretty boy who wore a trident will always get votes on that, even if he turns out to be a prog.
From what I can tell Rs will drool over female politicians with big boobs, no matter how poor their positions are.
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From what I can tell Rs will drool over female politicians with big boobs, no matter how poor their positions are.
Same with minorities who at least have the appearance of being conservatives. Not sure it is as bad now.
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Same with minorities who at least have the appearance of being conservatives.
I agree.
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Brandon Herrera didn't win, but he forced Gonzales into a runoff. Herrera would need to pick up almost all of the votes that went to Clark, Lopez, and Avila to have topped Gonzales. Doesn't look great, but who knows.
Gonzales calls Herrera a "known neo-nazi" and throws monkey turds at Rs in general.
The article calls Gonzales a "centralist"
U.S. Rep. Tony Gonzales, R-San Antonio, ripped into his party’s right flank for voting against billions in foreign aid for U.S. allies last week, castigating his ultraconservative peers as “scumbags” and klansmen.
“These people used to walk around with white hoods at night. Now they're walking around with white hoods in the daytime,” Gonzales told CNN’s Dana Bash in an interview Sunday. “It didn't surprise me that some of these folks voted against aid to Israel.”
“It's my absolute honor to be in Congress, but I serve with some real scumbags like [Florida Congressman] Matt Gaetz. He paid minors to have sex with them at drunk parties,” Gonzales said, before calling out Rep. Bob Good for earlier this month endorsing Herrera, whom he called a “known neo-Nazi.”
Tony Gonzales openly blasts fellow Republicans as “scumbags” and klansmen
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/22/tony-gonzales-republicans-matt-gaetz-scumbags/
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I already thought Brandon was funny from YouTube (I'm a suscriber), but after watching Tony, or more likely his media team, stumble around Twitter the last couple weeks outright lying and calling names, I really hope Gonzales get's his ass handed to him in the run off.
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I already thought Brandon was funny from YouTube (I'm a suscriber), but after watching Tony, or more likely his media team, stumble around Twitter the last couple weeks outright lying and calling names, I really hope Gonzales get's his ass handed to him in the run off.
Hell language like that might get his has handed to him physically too.
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I have always hated Howard Stern, even when he was the popular "shock jock". I just now heard a snippet of an interview he did with Biden. Holy hell - it was the language of a flustered schoolgirl with a teenage crush coming out of the body of the 80 year old lesbian that Stern now is. I wonder what brand of lotion he used to give Biden a handjob during the interview? The below link I found on youtube. What I heard on the teevee just now was even more gushy.
https://youtu.be/JxL1_K-bq2I
Quite a different Stern from the guy who interviewed child star Dana Plato, who committed suicide shortly after.
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Quite a different Stern from the guy who interviewed child star Dana Plato, who committed suicide shortly after.
One he wanted to screw the other he wants to screw us.
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MAGAs hate dogs, but Biden is an outstanding dog lover and dog owner.
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2024/04/27/harry-sisson-barks-up-the-wrong-tree-trying-to-fluff-bidens-love-for-dogs-n2395592
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Don't discount dem voters voting for a haircut over substance. I mean, Obama got in spouting motivational speaker nonsense because they though he was cool and black.
Well, he was black at least.
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Well, he was black at least.
If you didn't vote for him you were racist.
And if you don't vote for the old senile white guy you're racist
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Time Magazine admitting that Trump might win. What I found interesting is all the comments stating that "he didn't win last time". Fascinating to watch the ebb and flow of "election denial".
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/04/30/time-trump-cover-bahahaha-n2395721
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Joe Biden has united the country after all ...
https://twitter.com/MavenNavarro1/status/1785785576571994299