Author Topic: Travel tips  (Read 3245 times)

Hutch

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,223
Travel tips
« on: July 19, 2012, 10:18:44 PM »
Unless things go down the gurgler over there 'tween now and then, my wife and I are going on trip to the Holy Land just after Christmas for a week.  The itinerary is set, no need to suggest sites or sights to see.  I am absolutely uninformed and completely inexperienced in these matters.  Can someone suggest a good source of reading material for the do's and don'ts of such an experience?  I don't want a Fodor guide, I want travel safety tips applicable to the usual church-group excursion.  I'm thinking my "Infidel" t-shirt is a non-starter, of course.  I have DSLR already, and a coupla point 'n shoot cameras.  The only wisdom I recall from veteran travelers is: "Take twice as much money and half as many clothes as you think you'll need".  Is that still valid in an era of credit cards and pickpockets?  Books, blogs, magazines, any source of practical suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks!
"My limited experience does not permit me to appreciate the unquestionable wisdom of your decision"

Seems like every day, I'm forced to add to the list of people who can just kiss my hairy ass.

Hawkmoon

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 27,310
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2012, 10:46:07 PM »
Personally, if your point-n-shoot cameras are half decent, unless you are a professional photographer and really NEED the DSLR, I'd leave it home. It's larger, it's heavier, and it attracts attention from people whose attention you don't really want. I have a fairly decent Canon DSLR and a couple of lenses, but when I travel to visit my wife's family in South America I take only my older point-n-shoot.

How new is your passport? If yours has a chip in it, invest in one of those RFD-blocker passport cases to protect your passport from being scanned when your not where it needs to be scanned.
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
100% Politically Incorrect by Design

Hutch

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,223
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 11:06:27 PM »
Good tip on the passport, I will check.  Keep 'em coming.  Books?  Blogs?
"My limited experience does not permit me to appreciate the unquestionable wisdom of your decision"

Seems like every day, I'm forced to add to the list of people who can just kiss my hairy ass.

Jamisjockey

  • Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 26,580
  • Your mom sends me care packages
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 11:18:53 PM »
Read up on things that happened during the Egyptian crisis.  Israel is more stable, but you never should take travel abroad lightly.
JD

 The price of a lottery ticket seems to be the maximum most folks are willing to risk toward the dream of becoming a one-percenter. “Robert Hollis”

charby

  • Necromancer
  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29,295
  • APS's Resident Sikh/Muslim
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 11:23:27 PM »
Exofficio underwear, only 2 pairs. One to wear and one you washed out in the sink the night before. Wash, rinse repeat.

If its a group excursion, remember the Discovery Channel, those who leave the herd get eaten.

Also don't act like an American, my goal is to be asked if I am Canadian when I travel abroad, even in Canada on fishing trips the locals think I'm Canadian.

Leave your jeans and tennis shoes at home, wear kakhis/slacks and comfortable dress type shoes.
Iowa- 88% more livable that the rest of the US

Uranus is a gas giant.

Team 444: Member# 536

RoadKingLarry

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 21,841
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 12:18:08 AM »
Hire Microbalrog as a guide/bodyguard while in country. :rofl:
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams

vaskidmark

  • National Anthem Snob
  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,799
  • WTF?
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 06:34:06 AM »
deleted
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 12:48:28 PM by vaskidmark »
If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege.

Hey you kids!! Get off my lawn!!!

They keep making this eternal vigilance thing harder and harder.  Protecting the 2nd amendment is like playing PACMAN - there's no pause button so you can go to the bathroom.

zahc

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,799
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 07:59:16 AM »
I would also forget the DSLR, given the quality of P&S images these days. Actually since I have a fetish for film I would definitely have a few disposable 35mm cameras. Lighter than anything, cheaper than anything, nobody will steal them, and you actually get negatives.
Maybe a rare occurence, but then you only have to get murdered once to ruin your whole day.
--Tallpine

Jocassee

  • Buster Scruggs Respecter
  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 4,591
  • "First time?"
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 10:47:13 AM »


Also don't act like an American, my goal is to be asked if I am Canadian when I travel abroad, even in Canada on fishing trips the locals think I'm Canadian.


How do you swing that? Besides moderating the accent I suppose.
I shall not die alone, alone, but kin to all the powers,
As merry as the ancient sun and fighting like the flowers.

Hawkmoon

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 27,310
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 10:48:41 AM »
I'd suggest some kind of neck pouch for passport and most of your cash or travelers checks, and your credit card. Do you have multiple credit cards? Don't take them all. Take maybe two, and carry them in separate pockets/wallets/locations. Be sure to write down the international number to call in case of problems, so you can notify the company ASAP if your pocket gets picked.

Be aware that in tourist destinations EVERYONE is a pickpocket. For trousers, since someone else has already suggested no jeans, I'll go farther and suggest something like Dockers, with buttoned flaps on the pockets. Get new ones, so the button holes aren't stretched and it isn't easy to unbutton them.
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
100% Politically Incorrect by Design

T.O.M.

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 6,409
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 11:25:46 AM »
I like cargo pants and shorts when I travel, because frankly I hate sitting on my wallet and other things for long periods of time, and the thigh pockets come in hands for camers and such, leaving your hands free.

The CIA and the State Department have decent web-pages with useful information about different countries.

Back in the day when I traveled to Central and South America, I made a point of learning how the locals dressed and followed their example, so I would blend in a crowd.  I avoided obvious tourist markers like fanny packs, etc., until I found a great fanny pack that was about 6" wide and 2-3" thick.  I could thread the strap through my belt loops and wear the pack under my untucked shirt.

A tip I got from a military friend...put some American cash in your front pockets.  Say $50 on each side.  If you're making a quick purchase, use it so you don't need to dig out and expose your big money/credit cards/passport.  If (God forbid) you get held up, throw the loose bills in one direction while you run the other direction.  Most robbers will chase the cash.

Always put duct tape in your suitcase, along with a multi-tool or Swiss Army knife, so you can do emergency repairs on about anything.  And always pack a good flashlight and spare batteries.
No, I'm not mtnbkr.  ;)

a.k.a. "our resident Legal Smeagol."...thanks BryanP
"Anybody can give legal advice - but only licensed attorneys can sell it."...vaskidmark

Ex-MA Hole

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,976
    • The Brown Bomber
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2012, 11:29:56 AM »
When I used to travel, I'd have two wallets.  My real one in the front pocket, and a fake one in the back with old expired credit cards, or even the plastic sales ones you get in the mail are fine, some petty cash and a few pictures, even the fake ones that come when you buy a frame.

Reasoning, if I get pick pocketed, I still have my money.

If I get mugged, they have a wallet that looks real and will hopefully be happy.
One day at a time.

charby

  • Necromancer
  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29,295
  • APS's Resident Sikh/Muslim
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2012, 12:49:47 PM »
How do you swing that? Besides moderating the accent I suppose.

I am polite, I don't get in a hurry/pushy and in regards to food/drink I try to eat what is popular for the native culture. I also refrain from saying things like, In American we.... I usually ask what do the residents do for fun or how do the locals do this or that. I also travel very light, I spend two weeks in Europe living out a suitcase that most people use would use for a three day weekend.
Iowa- 88% more livable that the rest of the US

Uranus is a gas giant.

Team 444: Member# 536

French G.

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 10,195
  • ohhh sparkles!
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2012, 03:38:45 PM »
I always keep my money and such split up. Besides that, write down your passport number, credit card company phone #s and keep them in a separate place. It seems pre-paid burn phones are ubiquitous and cheap, get one. Know where the hospitals are in the cities you will be in?

It's been nearly 15 years since I went to Jerusalem. I've been to Bethlehem when it was occupied and when it was PA. Not sure if that is still a tour option, most likely is. Do not get lost in the damn city! I popped into a shop, when I came out 30 seconds later handy tour guide was nowhere. I picked the right direction 3 times by luck before catching them. Don't start 9mm vs. 45 conversations? Probably see IDF with guns everywhere. Last time I was there it was a week or two before Easter and heavily patrolled. You have your wife along so don't get caught checking out the girls of the IDF.

I vote for take the DSLR and a point and shoot. If you take a computer you can download them each day andmake them redundant. No point in going on the trip of a lifetime and losing your pics. Leave them on the SD cards too as long as there is room.

Eat some street food. Doner Kebab FTW if you see some. The world is a happier place for street food.

Pretty damn unlikely to be a victim of something really bad, but keep your head up. If your tour bus is boarded know all the other exits if there is a chance. In fact, know all the exits anyway. Israel has some of the nicest bus companies I've ridden on and chances are you're going to be on a lot of them. Not the world's most dangerous drivers, but still...

AKA Navy Joe   

I'm so contrarian that I didn't respond to the thread.

Ben

  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46,135
  • I'm an Extremist!
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 03:44:40 PM »
I always keep my money and such split up. Besides that, write down your passport number, credit card company phone #s and keep them in a separate place.

Having the numbers, as French points out, is critical if something happens. But I wouldn't carry them with me unsecured. Either a flash drive with portable Truecrypt, or else leave them with someone back home who you can call to get them if needed.

I would only bring a sterile laptop with me to another country if I took one, with the plan being to nuke it when I got back home.
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

Hawkmoon

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 27,310
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2012, 03:54:24 PM »
I would only bring a sterile laptop with me to another country if I took one, with the plan being to nuke it when I got back home.

+2

For my last trip out of country, I bought an Acer Aspire One netbook from Wal-Mart for that very purpose -- plus, it's small and light so not a huge burden to lug around, and the battery life is quite respectable if you don't abuse the machine and treat it like a full-featured, multi-tasking office desktop.

However, I didn't nuke mine when I got home. I still have it, and it has come in handy during power and Internet outages when I just head over to any nearby McDonald's and use the netbook to log onto their WiFi.
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
100% Politically Incorrect by Design

Ben

  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46,135
  • I'm an Extremist!
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2012, 04:11:45 PM »
To avoid any misunderstandings, by "nuke it" I meant DBAN it and then reinstall the OS image so I could use it on my home network again without worrying about any clandestine whatever I might have picked up when plugged in to some foreign network that got past my virus prg. :)
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

Waitone

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,133
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2012, 05:05:18 PM »
Not every country is enamored with credit cards as we are here in the US.  You'd be well advised to make use of travellers checks as a backup.  Israel may be different but I kinda doubt it.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
- Charles Mackay, Scottish journalist, circa 1841

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon

MrsSmith

  • I do declare, someone needs an ass whoopin'
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,734
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2012, 01:13:24 AM »
Scan the main page of your passport and any other ID/credit cards you're taking with you, save files to a thumb drive (password protect or encrypt), and take it with you. If you're separated from the real thing, you have more info to take to the embassy. I also leave a copy of my passport with a close family member in case I should be disappeared. But if you're traveling with a group, they'll be aware you're missing before stateside family would.

If you have a sensitive constitution, might want to take your favorite form of stomach remedy. I've seen a lot of tough folks put down by unfamiliar food or bad water. And when you're clutching your gut in agony is not when you want to be trying to figure out unfamiliar medicine labels.

Check the power situation over there if you're taking anything that requires charging/electrical power. I completely forgot about that on one trip, to Ireland, and it took me two days to find an adapter.
America is at that awkward stage; It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. ~ Claire Wolfe

RevDisk

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,633
    • RevDisk.net
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2012, 02:02:43 PM »
If you don’t know what you’re doing, stick to tourist areas. Not “edgy” tourist areas you can brag about. Normal, boring, pretty tourist areas. Don’t go visiting areas outside said tourist areas. Most second or third world countries have tourism police and have a very vested interest in protecting foreign tourist trade from petty criminals. Not you personally. The tourist trade. Most likely, prices will be more than double in tourist areas and you won’t get an authentic experience. So what? If you’re on vacation, you’re burning cash anyways. Authentic experiences suck. Go with the Disney version. Less poverty, less bad food and food poisoning, less lack of hygiene, and the drinks taste better.

Hire a guide. Preferably a reputable guide connected to whomever booked your trip. Said guide will fleece you quite nicely. You’ll go to places where the guide gets a kickback or has a “friend” running the place. So what? If you hired the guide from someone reputable, they don’t care about the guide personally, they just want reliable service. Honest service is not required, so long as it’s not too bad for business. If you pick carefully, having a guide will make your trip significantly more enjoyable. When I was in Bulgaria, I hired an assistant history professor from a local university to give myself and my associates a tour of various historic places. Worth very penny, as I happen to like old castles and whatnot.

While I was in Sofia, I hired a guide/transport/fixer to take me to clubs, mafia casinos, black markets, etc. Not smart if you’re by yourself. Acceptable if you are with three other soldiers and you’re not all complete muppets. Just make sure one of you remains sober at all times and doesn’t drink or eat anything with the rest. Yes, the movie clique of doped drinks does happen. Or you could be ordering bad food or drink, requiring one person to not be projectile vomiting to make arrangements for a medevac. I made up for the costs of my guide by having someone who could haggle in the local lingo when I bought the mandatory useless crap to send back to friends and family in the States.

If your guide is giving you the creeps or bad vibes, ditch them immediately and get another. Your hotel should be able to swing you one in a pitch. Don’t ignore your instincts. On the other hand, be nice to your guide and don’t treat them like a serf. Gifts aren’t a bad idea, but use good judgment.

Don’t bring anything that cannot be replaced overseas. Your wedding ring? If you must bring one, leave it and swap it out for a cheap fake. Same for your watch, wallet, favorite briefcase, everything. Take everything you need out of your regular wallet and transfer it to another thinner wallet. Should just be ID, cash, two credit cards max (unless required for some specific purpose), limited number of checks (NOT the whole friggin book), etc. If your wallet gets stolen or misplaced, best to minimize the damage. Have cash. Keep some in reserve, but not an excessive amount. Don’t wear any jewelry made of gold, silver or precious stones. Not even fakes, if possible.

Empty your luggage before packing. I mean, completely empty and quadruple check it to make sure it’s really empty. Put everything in your luggage in plastic baggies, smallest ones you can effectively manage. Try not to be clever and hide anything in your packed socks while traveling. After you land? Sure. Going through airport security? Not so smart. Write down all of the important information and phone numbers onto a cheatsheet. Photocopy it. Put one in your wallet, one in each piece of luggage, and put another spare in your carry-on. Include flight numbers, hotel, emergency contacts, embassy info, phone numbers for everything important, health information including blood type and allergies, insurance info, etc.

Carry some trade goods. Cigarettes are the best. Marlboros or Camels are prefered. Don’t go with anything fancy either. Batteries, semicheap watches, LED lights, etc are all good. Don’t carry too many on your person at any one time. Leave the majority of it in your luggage. Two or three packs of smokes on your person will likely get you by. Don’t use booze as a trade good, if possible. Don’t even think about touching drugs. It’s either really cheap crap or laced with something you don’t want.

If you are traveling on business, refuse to go unless the company coughs up for travel insurance, kidnap/ransom/extortion insurance and the services of a security/medical company. I have comprehensive membership through International SOS. Corporate membership is dirt cheap (relatively speaking), and can get the company a nice break on their insurance premiums. If you’re going to a country that has even the remotest possibility of going south, do not go without all of the above. Your company may already have it in place. If you’re going on vacation, strongly consider shelling out for it. If you’re going domestic, Western Europe or Australia, it’s not really needed. Anywhere else? You really should spring for it. It’s dirt cheap compared to your life.

Lastly, but not least, do some research on your destination. Learn as much of the local lingo as you can, even if it’s just a handful of memorized phrases. Look up the country on the State Department’s website, google around, etc. While it may be considered overkill, some companies do provide more detailed information. International SOS includes this in their membership, but companies like StratFor or Jane’s Consulting also have very useful information.
"Rev, your picture is in my King James Bible, where Paul talks about "inventors of evil."  Yes, I know you'll take that as a compliment."  - Fistful, possibly highest compliment I've ever received.

Hutch

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,223
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2012, 04:23:20 PM »
Why is it a bad idea to wear jeans?  I thought EVERYBODY wore jeans... but I don't get out much.
"My limited experience does not permit me to appreciate the unquestionable wisdom of your decision"

Seems like every day, I'm forced to add to the list of people who can just kiss my hairy ass.

Hawkmoon

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 27,310
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2012, 06:25:58 PM »
Why is it a bad idea to wear jeans?  I thought EVERYBODY wore jeans... but I don't get out much.

See if you can Google up some street photos from Israel. Maybe Micro can post links to some. Pay attention to how the majority of the men on the street (women, for your wife) dress, and plan your wardrobe to mimic theirs.

Jeans = "American tourist"
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
100% Politically Incorrect by Design

Antibubba

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,836
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2012, 12:32:55 AM »
There are some good phrases to know: reaching into your jacket and shouting ALLAH AKBAR will guarantee an unforgettable travel experience.   =D
If life gives you melons, you may be dyslexic.

Hutch

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,223
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2012, 10:13:24 AM »
So, no jeans, then?  =D

Thanks, keep 'em coming.  I will be on a guided, escorted tour of churchies, so advice on identifying likely uninfected street-walkers wont be needed...
"My limited experience does not permit me to appreciate the unquestionable wisdom of your decision"

Seems like every day, I'm forced to add to the list of people who can just kiss my hairy ass.

Jamisjockey

  • Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 26,580
  • Your mom sends me care packages
Re: Travel tips
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2012, 10:28:39 AM »
Another travel tip. Good for anywhere not just international.
Google map the city and get a feel for the layout of the major roads, and try to memorize some of their names.
Get contact info for local reputable cab company and program those into your phone as well.  Memorize the hotel address, and program the hotel info into your phone as well.
JD

 The price of a lottery ticket seems to be the maximum most folks are willing to risk toward the dream of becoming a one-percenter. “Robert Hollis”