Author Topic: The Consent of the Governed  (Read 6119 times)

The Real Hawkeye

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Re: The Consent of the Governed
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2007, 10:56:35 AM »
"and it was on sovereign Confederate territory."

WRONG.

The legislature of the state of South Carolina had in, IIRC, 1819 deeded the land to the Federal government on which the FEDERAL government built Ft. Sumpter.

Why?

The port of Charleston wanted protection from possible hostile invasions.

The state of South Carolina was demanding back what no longer belonged to it.


What specious logic!  If NYC leased Central Park to Imperial Japan in 1935, I guarantee they'd not permit them to maintain a military base there in 1942.

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Re: The Consent of the Governed
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2007, 11:10:37 AM »
>This was dealt with decisively in 1860-1864.  The answer is, no, states do not have the power to secede.<

hmmm... interesting take on things Rabbi...

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Re: The Consent of the Governed
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2007, 12:28:55 PM »



No government has ever or will ever give up any power over it's people or institutions willingly and/or without a fight be it violent or non-violent.


Except Czechoslovakia ceding the Slovak Republic.  But pay no attention to counter-examples....
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Re: The Consent of the Governed
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2007, 03:19:13 PM »
Please don't argue with Werewolf, Rabbi.  It wears me out just to watch someone else do it. 
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