Oil vacs for oil changes

[K Frame]

Well damn it.

My Forester uses 5.5 quarts of oil.

I've gotten so used to having cars that use 4.5 to 4.85 (yep, 4.85) that I didn't pick up an extra quart.

[Calumus]

Just ran across this now.

http://slickdeals.net/f/8979959-12-rebate-with-purchase-of-five-quarts-of-mobil-1-synthetic-motor-oil-limit-2-per-person?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

[Boomhauer]

For those that go to Costco, they have cases of Mobil 1 on sale at $10 off a few times a year. That's usually when I buy it and just store it. Though I've never seen 0wt-20 there, just 5-30 and 10-30.

The 4Runner uses 0wt-20. It's been on Toyota Care until just a few months ago, so this next go round is the first time I'll be doing it on that ride. If I decide to do it instead of taking it in. I guess to make up for having a super easy to change cabin air filter, they decided to make this the procedure for changing the oil filter just to even things out:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/116417-oil-change-5th-gen-how-lots-pics.html

I was expecting something horrible. That's pretty easy.

[roo_ster]

Yeah, unless you're trying to run insane oil change intervals, I don't think you'll go wrong with any of the major brand synthetic oils.  I stick with Mobil-1 mainly because it's a known quantity (been using it in all my vehicles for the last 20 years) and is available everywhere except Rooster's Walmart. :)

Chris

Heh.

Will look again at wally world but ww usually carries crap oil filters and i would likely have to make another trip.

[roo_ster]

Well damn it.

My Forester uses 5.5 quarts of oil.

I've gotten so used to having cars that use 4.5 to 4.85 (yep, 4.85) that I didn't pick up an extra quart.

How much capacity has the oil vac?

[K Frame]

Uh... 5 quarts.

Worked great though.

But couldn't get the damn filter off and my wrench is for full size.

Need to stop tomorrow and get a wrench.

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[Firethorn]

I have a 2.7L 4 banger tacoma.  I always dump in 5 quarts at a change and it works great.

[zahc]

APS oil vac possessors are obligated to perform the follows experiment for the benefit of the collective:

Use the oil vac as per SOP, then pull the drain plug and see how much "missed" oil is left that drains out.

[K Frame]

Even with the filter pliers I got I had one hell of a time getting the filter off. The dealership put it on during their pre-sales service, and I think they had the staff gorilla crank the damned thing down.

[Kingcreek]

APS oil vac possessors are obligated to perform the follows experiment for the benefit of the collective:

Use the oil vac as per SOP, then pull the drain plug and see how much "missed" oil is left that drains out.

Sorry, but the Crossfire has so little ground clearance that I can't ramp it, and even if I had it in the air there is a belly shroud with a bunch of torx bolts that have to be removed to even access the drain plug. I can live happily with whatever small quantity of synthetic oil gets left behind. The oil I suck from the Mercedes 6cyl always looks like new oil anyway. At least Daimler put the hand-removable filter element canister topside front.

[bedlamite]

Even with the filter pliers I got I had one hell of a time getting the filter off. The dealership put it on during their pre-sales service, and I think they had the staff gorilla crank the damned thing down.

Odds are it was installed on a clean surface and they didn't oil the gasket. they have a tendency to turn to cement then.

[Firethorn]

Even with the filter pliers I got I had one hell of a time getting the filter off. The dealership put it on during their pre-sales service, and I think they had the staff gorilla crank the damned thing down.

Are you sure it wasn't put on by the factory?

The first filter off my Tacoma was a crumpled mess by the time I got it off.  I figure they have the industrial robot putting them on set to torque them a bit high...

[K Frame]

It's a 2012.

I hope not.

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[Firethorn]

It's a 2012.

I hope not.

...I'd hope not as well.  The monkey that put it on probably didn't oil the ring.

[Ben]

I was expecting something horrible. That's pretty easy.

Let me rephrase. It's not difficult. It's time consuming. An oil change (for me) should take no more than ten minutes and just use one socket. If a spin on filter is put on properly, I should be able to unspin it with my gorilla hands. If it's an enclosed filter, the filter cap should use the same socket as the drain plug (in my ideal world).

My Trooper always took less than ten minutes. Open hood, open oil cap, crawl under vehicle (once!). Drain oil. Swap spin on filter while oil is draining. Wait an additional couple of minutes for oil to drain. Replace plug. Stand up and and add oil. Close hood. Complete.

Without a lift or other nifty setup, I will have to crawl under the 4Runner at least several times between draining oil and removing stuff, placing it carefully so I don't lose bolts and clips, then put it all back again. It'll take me at least 30 minutes. That's too much of my valuable time for an <10 minute process, and it becomes worth it for me to take it in and sit in the waiting lounge surfing the Internet and eating donuts for 45 minutes.

Even so, I'll likely try it this first go round just to time it. If my past levels of impatience are any indication though, for the next change I'll be in the Toyota hipster waiting room. Old guys got no time for nonsense.