Author Topic: Mobs, liberals and racism  (Read 22177 times)

Monkeyleg

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,589
  • Tattaglia is a pimp.
    • http://www.gunshopfinder.com
Mobs, liberals and racism
« on: July 07, 2011, 11:51:59 PM »
Over the 4th of July weekend in Milwaukee, there were several instances of mobs of 20 or more "youths" swarming convenience stores and making off with goodies, and attacking, beating and injuring innocent people on the streets.

The first response from the Milwaukee Police Department was to deny that there were any "mobs". When it was clear that there were, Flynn, the police chief, had to back peddle.

The "youths" were black, and the beating victims white. In its editorial on the beatings, the Journal Sentinel issued the usual call for the police to work with the "community", whoever or whatever that might be. It also said the following:

"Some witnesses and residents questioned whether race played a role in the looting and beatings. Witnesses say the attacks were unprovoked and that the victims were white and the attackers were African-American. But we'd agree with Flynn, who said crime is colorblind. Flynn also downplayed the notion that police tried to minimize the severity of the incidents. Flynn said that initially police weren't fully informed of the details."

Are you **expletive deleted** kidding me? You have mobs of black kids beating white people, but crime is colorblind? I wonder if the Journal Sentinel, police chief and city fathers would be so colorblind if the attackers had been white and the victims black.

This isn't exactly the first instance of mob beatings (and murders) by black "youths" in Milwaukee. In fact, it's becoming almost a biannual or tri-annual summer ritual, beginning five years ago with the beating and murder of a man named Charlie Young.

Denying a problem exists doesn't make it go away.

RevDisk

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,633
    • RevDisk.net
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 12:19:05 AM »
Happens in Philly on a regular basis. 
"Rev, your picture is in my King James Bible, where Paul talks about "inventors of evil."  Yes, I know you'll take that as a compliment."  - Fistful, possibly highest compliment I've ever received.

longeyes

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,405
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 01:19:28 AM »
The 50-year social experiment called "liberalism" has produced its first crop of graduates.
"Domari nolo."

Thug: What you lookin' at old man?
Walt Kowalski: Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have messed with? That's me.

Molon Labe.

RoadKingLarry

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 21,841
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 01:23:47 AM »
We're seeing more and more of this kind of stuff, or at least it is getting more press coverage.
I wonder how long it will be till one of those mobs goes after a legally armed citizen and what the aftermath of that will be.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams

longeyes

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,405
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 01:38:14 AM »
Here's a compilation of the phenomenon:

http://violentflashmobs.com/
"Domari nolo."

Thug: What you lookin' at old man?
Walt Kowalski: Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have messed with? That's me.

Molon Labe.

KD5NRH

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 10,926
  • I'm too sexy for you people.
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 01:55:21 AM »
I wonder how long it will be till one of those mobs goes after a legally armed citizen and what the aftermath of that will be.

Messy.  In lots of ways.

RoadKingLarry

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 21,841
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 04:24:13 AM »
Here's a compilation of the phenomenon:

http://violentflashmobs.com/

Looks like the majority of the mobs are in areas hostile to armed self defense.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams

Scout26

  • I'm a leaf on the wind.
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 25,997
  • I spent a week in that town one night....
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 05:16:00 AM »
Looks like the majority of the mobs are in areas hostile to armed self defense.

DINGDINGDING

We have a WINNER !!!


Sorry, but methinks that once WI gets CCW, the flash mob-beating phenomenon will be confined to Chicago (and Philly)....
Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.


Bring me my Broadsword and a clear understanding.
Get up to the roundhouse on the cliff-top standing.
Take women and children and bed them down.
Bless with a hard heart those that stand with me.
Bless the women and children who firm our hands.
Put our backs to the north wind.
Hold fast by the river.
Sweet memories to drive us on,
for the motherland.

RevDisk

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,633
    • RevDisk.net
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 08:52:02 AM »
DINGDINGDING

We have a WINNER !!!


Sorry, but methinks that once WI gets CCW, the flash mob-beating phenomenon will be confined to Chicago (and Philly)....

Philly has pretty good RKBA and LTCF laws, because PA makes them.  And?
"Rev, your picture is in my King James Bible, where Paul talks about "inventors of evil."  Yes, I know you'll take that as a compliment."  - Fistful, possibly highest compliment I've ever received.

brimic

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,270
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 08:55:29 AM »
Quote
Philly has pretty good RKBA and LTCF laws, because PA makes them.  And?

And for the same reason, flash mobs will continue in Milwaukee- those that live in the area of the latest flash mobs aren't pro self-preservation.
"now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb" -Dark Helmet

"AK47's belong in the hands of soldiers mexican drug cartels"-
Barack Obama

HankB

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16,690
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 08:57:47 AM »
. . . Witnesses say the attacks were unprovoked and that the victims were white and the attackers were African-American. But we'd agree with Flynn, who said crime is colorblind. . . .
Even the REPORTING isn't colorblind, much less the crime.  :facepalm:

What's wrong with "white" and "black" ? Or, to be consistent, "European-American" and "African-American?"   (though I personally agree with TR's comments on hyphenated Americans . . . )
Trump won in 2016. Democrats haven't been so offended since Republicans came along and freed their slaves.
Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain
Government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advance auction in stolen goods. - H.L. Mencken
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain

MicroBalrog

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,505
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 09:29:31 AM »
The 50-year social experiment called "liberalism" has produced its first crop of graduates.

50-year? Wouldn't it be more like 80?
Destroy The Enemy in Hand-to-Hand Combat.

"...tradition and custom becomes intertwined and are a strong coercion which directs the society upon fixed lines, and strangles liberty. " ~ William Graham Sumner

MicroBalrog

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,505
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 09:32:11 AM »
Here's a compilation of the phenomenon:

http://violentflashmobs.com/

At least 2 of the 'flash mobs' reported are not violent. Do we have a 'moral panic' in the works again?
Destroy The Enemy in Hand-to-Hand Combat.

"...tradition and custom becomes intertwined and are a strong coercion which directs the society upon fixed lines, and strangles liberty. " ~ William Graham Sumner

birdman

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,831
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 09:44:45 AM »
I think this is a verynbad (and rapidly growing) trend that is very near a tipping point that leads to an extremely bad situation...as more of the press coverage (that does exist) ends with "unidentified people" and little to no actual judicial results, more will be encouraged to risk it, as the risk/reward is being tilted significantly.  Even if a small fraction encounter armed SD, the bulk will not (thanks sheeple!), and this behavior will become more brazen and spread.  Even with armed SD, people in general are bad at risk assessment, so it is obvious the "how many of us could actually get shot before we beat the guy senseless" though will yield a "not many, and probably not me" result, and BOOM, tipping point.
Welcome to the future my friends.

longeyes

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,405
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2011, 09:50:22 AM »
50-year? Wouldn't it be more like 80?

LBJ...Wilson...flip a coin.  It was LBJ who fathered the American welfare state, but, of course, the roots go further back, back even earlier than that if you want to delve into the British socialists, French radicals, etc., etc.  I said 50 because to me this is largely the by-product of fatherless families and moral relativism.
"Domari nolo."

Thug: What you lookin' at old man?
Walt Kowalski: Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have messed with? That's me.

Molon Labe.

AJ Dual

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16,162
  • Shoe Ballistics Inc.
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2011, 09:52:06 AM »
Looks like the majority of the mobs are in areas hostile to armed self defense.

It'll keep happening in the Riverwest neigborhood of Milwaukee. As noted in another thread here, two of the reported victims who were interviewed by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel were a U.S. Census Worker, and a Social Worker.

For those not in the Milwaukee area, Riverwest is the "East Side" (the real "East Side" is Lake Michigan) neighborhood that butts up against Milwaukee's north-northwest black ghetto axis. It's populated by yuppies, liberals, college students and other .alt/bohemian types who can't afford the more pricier .alt/bohemian areas. Although they've been gentrifying Riverwest and "improving" it somewhat too.

And for the same reason, flash mobs will continue in Milwaukee- those that live in the area of the latest flash mobs aren't pro self-preservation.

Exactly. They won't be availing themselves of CCW permits en-masse anytime soon.
I promise not to duck.

birdman

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,831
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2011, 09:54:42 AM »
Here's a compilation of the phenomenon:

http://violentflashmobs.com/

Looking at that, you can see a tipping point process occurring (exponential growth).  Since most of the areas involved are northern areas, and areas with substantial slums, I have a few thoughts:
1. Hope it isn't a mild winter
2. Watch for this occurring in areas removed from inner cities, or in cities without substantial slums...that will be the indicator of a spreading phenomenon/tipping point.

longeyes

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,405
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 10:37:38 AM »
When and if it spreads to the 'burbs we won't be talking any more about flash mobs but something a great deal worse.
"Domari nolo."

Thug: What you lookin' at old man?
Walt Kowalski: Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have messed with? That's me.

Molon Labe.

Tallpine

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 23,172
  • Grumpy Old Grandpa
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 10:58:08 AM »
I guess this answers the question of why one might want to open carry a rifle or shotgun in town  ;/
Freedom is a heavy load, a great and strange burden for the spirit to undertake. It is not easy. It is not a gift given, but a choice made, and the choice may be a hard one. The road goes upward toward the light; but the laden traveller may never reach the end of it.  - Ursula Le Guin

MicroBalrog

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,505
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2011, 11:03:27 AM »
What problem is here that a pair of determined men with modern rifles wouldn't resolve? Rioters are cowards.
Destroy The Enemy in Hand-to-Hand Combat.

"...tradition and custom becomes intertwined and are a strong coercion which directs the society upon fixed lines, and strangles liberty. " ~ William Graham Sumner

Monkeyleg

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,589
  • Tattaglia is a pimp.
    • http://www.gunshopfinder.com
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2011, 11:03:44 AM »
Quote
Exactly. They won't be availing themselves of CCW permits en-masse anytime soon.

You know, in a way that could be a Good ThingTM. Darwin and all. ;)

roo_ster

  • Kakistocracy--It's What's For Dinner.
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 21,225
  • Hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2011, 11:08:22 AM »
I guess this answers the question of why one might want to open carry a rifle or shotgun in town  ;/

Not open carry, but a shotgun trunk/truck gun kept handy might help.

Of course if this occurs near/at home, I hae a whole lot more than just one shotgun to call on.
Regards,

roo_ster

“Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.”
----G.K. Chesterton

Balog

  • Unrepentant race traitor
  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 17,774
  • What if we tried more?
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 11:14:21 AM »
What problem is here that a pair of determined men with modern rifles wouldn't resolve? Rioters are cowards.

At least in major cities, most people do not have modern rifles readily available to them. And the crime is committed quickly then the mobs disperse before an armed response can be mounted. And of course if you did have a rifle, and did respond to a flash mob beating innocent folks you'd run the risks of 1. being shot by the responding cops 2. being sued by the families of the "underprivileged youths" you shot 3. being charged with multiple counts of AwDW and murder.
Quote from: French G.
I was always pleasant, friendly and within arm's reach of a gun.

Quote from: Standing Wolf
If government is the answer, it must have been a really, really, really stupid question.

MicroBalrog

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,505
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 11:22:35 AM »
At least in major cities, most people do not have modern rifles readily available to them. And the crime is committed quickly then the mobs disperse before an armed response can be mounted. And of course if you did have a rifle, and did respond to a flash mob beating innocent folks you'd run the risks of 1. being shot by the responding cops 2. being sued by the families of the "underprivileged youths" you shot 3. being charged with multiple counts of AwDW and murder.

This occured in Milwaukee. A simple Google search brought up a gun store in Milwaukee selling Bushmaster rifles. As for being sued, a Make My Day law is even now in the works in Minnesota.

Even in California you can get some pretty useful stuff.
Destroy The Enemy in Hand-to-Hand Combat.

"...tradition and custom becomes intertwined and are a strong coercion which directs the society upon fixed lines, and strangles liberty. " ~ William Graham Sumner

AJ Dual

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16,162
  • Shoe Ballistics Inc.
Re: Mobs, liberals and racism
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2011, 11:32:06 AM »
This occured in Milwaukee. A simple Google search brought up a gun store in Milwaukee selling Bushmaster rifles. As for being sued, a Make My Day law is even now in the works in Minnesota.

Even in California you can get some pretty useful stuff.

You're not getting it. The Libertarian/Right "Gun Culture Types" don't live/work or go to those neighborhoods if they can help it.

And Balog's pointing out your rifle won't shoot down the ensuing liberal/MSM/Political ----storm, even if you shot down the mob of black youth.
I promise not to duck.