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Title: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: thebaldguy on February 23, 2007, 04:12:12 PM
Looks us folks in Minnesota will finally get a winter storm worth talking about. It's going to snow all weekend giving us a foot or so. Maybe more. Nothing like those folks in upstate New York recently, but we haven't had a decent blizzard in years. Figure that one out. Haven't had much snow in recent years either.

The girlfriend and I have just finished all of our emergency prep. We're well stocked up on beer, wine, booze, and mixers. Went grocery shopping and got lots of emergency rations like shrimp, homemade pizza fixings, tex-mex fixings, blueberry muffins and croissants. Got some sushi to go for tonight, just in case. Might have to bake up some brownies as well for a chocolate emergency. Got an extra pack of smokes as well. The unviewed DVDs will get looked at, and lots of hockey on tv this weekend. Got The Weather Channel on the other tv.

The snowblowers are ready to go. We'll probably have a few beers with the neighbors in the alley during snow removal ala Hank Hill and his crew on King of the Hill. And of course, a run over to the tax guy in the snow with the 4x4 to pick up the completed taxes. We're already arguing about who gets to drive.

Eight PM, but no flakes yet. Let's see how much we'll get. My girl thinks this is way overhyped and we won't get much, but I told her you can never have too much shrimp in the freezer ready to go...
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Post by: Standing Wolf on February 23, 2007, 04:44:55 PM
I spent eleven years in Minnesnowta. I noticed early on the main event every winterall winterwas the weather.
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: charby on February 23, 2007, 04:45:25 PM
I just got home from running from Ames, IA to Waterloo, IA and back again. On the drive home got pelted with large sleet. Windy as hell. I'm not sure how much we are getting here but it was cool seeing the lightening in the sleet storm. I have only seen winter storm lightening only a couple time and it usually is only in April blizzards.

I told me wife as long as I got booze and cigarettes I can ride out the storm this weekend.

-C
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Post by: Sindawe on February 23, 2007, 04:47:16 PM
Your welcome to all the snow you can handle.  We STILL have mounds of the stuff melting off from the December blizzard here in Colorado.
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Post by: Gewehr98 on February 23, 2007, 05:51:17 PM
It just started hitting here in Wisconsin in the last hour or so.  I thought maybe I could shovel the front walkway and the driveway around my truck.  Yeah, right.   grin

So I put an old blanket on the windshield and over the cowl air intakes, and used the doors to tension the blanket. (an old trick I learned as a kid 30years ago) Tomorrow, or whenever the snow stops, all I have to do is open the doors and remove the blanket, hopefully with no packed snow in the cowl air intakes to prevent the heater from working well. 

I see the county has the plows running at regular intervals on the highway behind my house.  Winter may have gotten a late start up here, but it looks like the crews will get a full season's worth of work.

Yeah, from the looks of what's accumulating outside my office window, and the radar summary, we're gonna get a bunch of the white stuff, and it's at the end of February.  Wonder if the globular worming activists are paying attention? 
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Post by: Monkeyleg on February 23, 2007, 06:08:08 PM
My back is already aching from a very long location photo shoot. By Monday morning I expect to be on my back in bed, alternating ice packs and heating pads.

God, how I hate this state. The politics, the taxes, the weather, the constant road construction...

Why am I here?

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Post by: Gewehr98 on February 23, 2007, 06:30:07 PM
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Why am I here?

The cheese, man, the cheese!  grin (Ducking and hiding) 

I came back to my beloved Wisconsin after a 20+ year hiatus, spending time in Kalifornia, Alaska, Colorado, Florida, Texas, Okinawa, Japan, Thailand, India, England, Germany, Venezuela, Australia, and Spain.

Despite the liberals in Madison and the deluge of snow, I'm happy to be home. I'm breathing real air, my AK and AR aren't threatened by the Kalifornia DOJ, and my new home won't be destroyed by two hurricanes in rapid succession.  Life is good.   
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on February 23, 2007, 08:33:20 PM
Hey, I even got some snow in Southern California today.  I live at 3,800 feet, we got a light dusting this morning.  It was melted in an hour, and sunny by the time I got home from work.
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Monkeyleg on February 23, 2007, 09:09:25 PM
Geweher98, it has nothing to do with cheese.

I'm surprised you left Texas.

I really hate this state. And I'm not alone.

Earlier last year, a state senator called me to talk about the CCW bill.

I told him that it was the goal for my wife and me to move down south. Tennesee,  Mississippi, somewhere like that.

He said, "Dick Baker! I can't believe that you'd consider leaving Wisconsin!"

"Why not?," I asked.

He said, "because my wife and I are thinking about leaving, too. We're sick of the taxes, the politics, the weather, and everything else about this damned state."

I shot back at him quickly. "Ok, Dave. One of the most senior members of the WI state legislature wants to move somewhere else. What message should that send to us peons?"

The answer was that maybe we could all live close to each other in AR, TN or another southern state.

God, I hate Wisconsin.
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: J.J. on February 23, 2007, 09:25:20 PM
I'm surprised you left Texas.

My thoughts exactly.  All this talk of a snow storm.. and I enjoyed the heck out of the 80 degree weather we had today..  Ahh Texas....
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gewehr98 on February 23, 2007, 09:51:40 PM
I'm weird.  Sue me.

I love the snow, and love having four distinct seasons each year. I hunt in November, ski, snowboard, and snowmobile in the winter, and wrassle in the white fluffy stuff with my big St. Bernard/Catahoula Leopard mix until he tires of it.  (He loves the snow, too) That's one factor in my returning here after my first career. The other factor is I promised Wife #2 I wouldn't keep her in Florida if she didn't try to drag me back to Kalifornia.  Texas was a wash for me, my Spanglish ain't so good, and you really need it around San Angelo way.

When I get up to Dick's age and my blood thins out (right around the time I start wearing black socks with sandals and Bermuda shorts), then maybe I'll pine for the warmth of Phoenix or Scottsdale, AZ, and that beautiful Airstream trailer on a concrete slab with Astroturf for a lawn - weekly shuffleboard matches and potluck get-togethers optional. 

In the meantime I've got more than enough intestinal fortitude to stick it out up here while others whimper, whine, and gear up to emulate Gawd knows how many other migratory Snowbirds.  I've been to a lot worse places...

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Post by: Strings on February 23, 2007, 10:32:16 PM
>The answer was that maybe we could all live close to each other in AR, TN or another southern state.<

Hmmm... that might be interesting: can you imagine the block parties possible with you, Dave, and I ? Cheesy

 We just have to keep the squirrels away form ya... :neener:
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: bedlamite on February 23, 2007, 10:38:23 PM
I don't mind the snow, but I can't stand the cold. The temps a few weeks ago with negative signs are what's making me think about moving south.

Bill, let me know where you want to move to, so I can go somewhere else
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Post by: 280plus on February 24, 2007, 01:37:25 AM
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my big St. Bernard/Catahoula Leopard mix
I'd like to see a pic of that!  grin
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Post by: gunsmith on February 24, 2007, 02:42:07 AM
Snow should be kept where it belongs, postcards and movies!
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: El Tejon on February 24, 2007, 03:14:35 AM
No snow here, but it's going to rain like you know what out of a boot.  I'm happy need to wash the filth off the streets.

There's so much salt on the streets that I bought a soft pretzel from a push cart yesterday and I intentionally dropped it on the street to get extra salt.
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: 280plus on February 24, 2007, 03:48:36 AM
Yummmm.....  rolleyes

 cheesy
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: charby on February 24, 2007, 04:00:27 AM
I love snow, I wish we got more of it here in Central Iowa. I wish we had enough to warrant owning a snowmobile. What I don't like is when the temps drop below 5 degrees and gets windy for an extended period of time.

-C
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Post by: Manedwolf on February 24, 2007, 04:53:41 AM
Emergency prep for a FOOT of snow...?

In northern New England, a foot of snow means you get up a half hour earlier, shovel and go to work. So does everyone else.  smiley
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: El Tejon on February 24, 2007, 05:48:53 AM
Tell me about it, Mane.  I was in Boston for the last Noreastern (January '05).  Four feet of snow!  Boston didn't miss a beat.

"Yaaah, this weather is wicked.  I gotta drive my cahhhhr to the bahhhr." grin
Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gewehr98 on February 24, 2007, 06:26:26 AM
Re: St. Bernard/Catahoula Leopard Wisconsin snow dawg pics...

Think about a 100-pound oversized Border Collie-looking thing, that still falls asleep with his lower jaw on my sternum every night. (He somehow feels/hears my heartbeat and it puts him to sleep, how weird is that?)

Bernie at 12 weeks:



Bernie at 2 years, in Florida:



Bernie this winter, playing "catch me" in the snow:



Blizzard warning in effect now from 6PM tonight until noon tomorrow.  I have to go shovel the driveway, there's a big white lump where my truck used to be...
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Post by: Lee on February 24, 2007, 07:05:52 AM
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"Yaaah, this weather is wicked.  I gotta drive my cahhhhr to the bahhhr.

Thehs a flar in your Bostonian.  R's are only used wheh they don't belong. It would be, I dropped my keys on the flah of the cah.

Confusing Boston Real Estate Ad -  FS "Flawless Home"
What do you walk on, if it has no flaw. 
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Post by: Car Knocker on February 24, 2007, 08:28:20 AM
There's so much salt on the streets that I bought a soft pretzel from a push cart yesterday and I intentionally dropped it on the street to get extra salt.
Being next to the Great Salt Lake, we use a LOT of salt.  UDOT, a few years ago, stated that in an average winter we use 4.5 tons of salt per lane/mile.  On a 12-lane freeway, that's 54 tons of salt every mile, every winter.
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Post by: thebaldguy on February 24, 2007, 08:40:14 AM
So far we've only got a few inches of sleet and snow. Some of Minnesota and Wisconsin have got more snow. The main streets in Minneapolis are covered with that mix making it slippery.  It doesn't look like they have plowed or sanded yet. A good day for a 4x4 if you're out. It was fun to drive today. Made me thankful for good tires on the Jeep.

The girlfriend wants to break into the emergency tex-mex rations for some homemade goodies; oven baked flautas with rice and beans. Tequila rations in the form of margaritas may be in order. The U of MN Gophers got beat by the St. Cloud State Huskies in hockey last night, but tonight they're home against 'em. Should be another good game to watch. Maybe we'll get out and do some snow removal sometime today. We'll see what happens. A good weekend to relax and hang out.

By the way, we're thinking of retireing in Texas; winters down south and summers up north. Maybe Texas residency to avoid high taxes in Minnesota. Only 19 more years to go!
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Post by: 280plus on February 24, 2007, 10:47:57 AM
Aww, what a cute li'l pup!  grin
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Post by: lee n. field on February 24, 2007, 12:35:36 PM
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The girlfriend and I have just finished all of our emergency prep. We're well stocked up on beer, wine, booze, and mixers. Went grocery shopping and got lots of emergency rations like shrimp,

Hey, don't forget videos.  The wife said Bustblocker was unusually crowded.  Pre storm frenzy (storm hasn't ammounted to hardly squat here yet, though they;re talking snow and sleet tonight.)
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Post by: charby on February 24, 2007, 12:35:51 PM
G-98 Your dog sure looks like a Bernese Mountain Dog

Storm update here....
So I decided to go for a drive and pick up some gas for the snow blower. Realized that all I had was what was in the tank plus I wanted some apple flavored iced tea the filling station has in the coffee area.

It was sleeting/raining at the time and the trees were getting weighed down, all the pines look so sad and droopy. The roads were wet but there was no one out driving around.

The trees in my yard have shed some branches from the ice so I'll have some clean up when the snow melts.

Just started snowing, supposed to get up to 8" of wet snow, oh well another February storm. If tomorrow was Monday I'd get up on time, clean the drive and walks and show up to work half hour late but still before everyone else shows up. No one really ever cares about start time on snowy mornings.

-C

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Post by: Monkeyleg on February 24, 2007, 01:44:47 PM
Latest weather update says that, by Monday morning, we may have had as much as twenty inches.

That may not seem like a lot to somone in Connecticut, but it's definitely a lot for Milwaukee.

OTOH, up in Michigan's UP, where my parents grew up, they'll often finish out the winter with over 300 inches on the ground.

So, take that, Connecticutters. Wink
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Post by: charby on February 24, 2007, 02:10:32 PM
my deck, ice undeneath an inch of wet snow, more snow to come



I'm bored at home... 
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Post by: 280plus on February 24, 2007, 02:27:25 PM
Phuh,,, we ain't hardly seen a LICK o' snow this winter. But I'm not complaining because the dang snowblower is busted again. Every year the thing won't start, no matter what I do. I even tried it at the beginning of the season and it ran fine, but come the first real shitstorm we had and nope, not gonna run anymore. Arrgghhh...  angry

 grin
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Post by: charby on February 24, 2007, 02:48:26 PM
Phuh,,, we ain't hardly seen a LICK o' snow this winter. But I'm not complaining because the dang snowblower is busted again. Every year the thing won't start, no matter what I do. I even tried it at the beginning of the season and it ran fine, but come the first real shitstorm we had and nope, not gonna run anymore. Arrgghhh...  angry

 grin

Mine had that problem last year, problem ended up being I filled the gas tank with fuel in October and by December the octane dropped so much that I couldn't get it started when the temps were below 20 degrees. So now I use a 1 gallon can, purchase fresh fuel before the storm and only fill the tank up part way. (put what is left in the can into my trucks gas tank) I only fill the tank up part way to try and keep the amount of fuel held over between snowfalls to a minimum. I also started putting a squirt of PRI in the fuel and only buying the highest non oxygenated octane fuel, here in Iowa that is 93 octane.

So far it started everyday I needed it and one day it was -5 F. Mine is a pull start only 10 hp, even with Mobile 1 for oil it is still a bitch to pull the rope when it is below 10 F.

PRI is like stable but I have only seen it sold in marine catalogs/stores. With my boat it keeps the fuel good until I run out, sometimes two season depending how much I actually use the boat. The last time I bought it it was $16 for a bottle that was good to treat 256 gallons of fuel.
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Post by: 280plus on February 24, 2007, 03:03:23 PM
 I had run mine dry the last time I started it, with Stabil in it, and put fresh in just the other day. Starts but dies. Seems a bit leaky too. It WAS leaking but that stopped. Sigh, I'm hioping spring comes early cause at this point I'd rather wait till next year to take it in. Of couirse it looks like all that crap Wisconsin is getting is headed our way.  rolleyes
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Post by: Gewehr98 on February 24, 2007, 03:04:05 PM
We just got home, after loading up the truck with a couple weeks' worth of extra groceries, and taking Mrs. G-98 out for her birthday dinner at the Chinese buffet (her choice).  The winds have picked up, drifting snow onto the interstate and Madison Beltline, with the occasional white-out when a big batch of the white stuff flies past your windshield. I took it slow on the way home, not going much above 55 on either the Beltline or Interstate. When we arrived at home, my driveway looked like it had never been plowed clean this morning, and the storm has only been going about an hour so far.   shocked

The manager at the local Pick-n-Save was our bagger tonight.  There were a lot of bare spots on the shelves, and he said it's been madness since the blizzard warnings Friday.  Likewise, Blockbuster here has been besieged.  But I did see both Glass Nickle Pizza and Pizza Hut delivery cars cruising through the neighborhood.  I hope they get extra tip money tonight...

Yup, people think Bernie is a Bernese Mountain Dog. He's not, just a total accident between a St. Bernard papa and a really butt-ugly Catahoula Leopard Dog mama. I saw his mama, she was nursing Bernie and his siblings at the Humane Society when I first fostered him and his current housemate. He never went back at the 12 week point, and the Humane Society never called me telling me to bring him back.  So here it is, 3+ years later, and I have both Bernie and Quinn.   
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Post by: charby on February 25, 2007, 04:41:45 AM
Got broken trees everywhere, weight of the ice and snow was too much for dormant trees. I have no clue how much snow we got but its wet and heavy. Time to get dressed, go out and start digging.

My bird feeder pole is all bent to hell from a plum tree falling on it. I may keep it can call it modern art.

-C
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Post by: thebaldguy on February 25, 2007, 07:47:10 AM
We got about 13-15 inches of snow in Minneapolis. It's still coming down too. I was going to wait until later for snow removal, but the neighbors have taken care of our sidewalk and alley with their snowblowers. The city has plowed the street, but they have left 2-3 foot walls of snow next to parked cars forcing owners to dig out. Thank god we have a garage. They've declared a snow emergency, which means their revenue generators are turned on. It will cost you close to 200 dollars to get your car back if it's towed. The same distance tow from a tow truck would be less than half that, but the city feels the need to really punish residents. And then they claim they don't make any money on towing parking violators.

Hopefully roads will be clear for rush hour Monday morning.
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Post by: El Tejon on February 25, 2007, 07:49:04 AM
We started getting a "wintery mix" (how I hate when the talking heads use that term) about 6pm Saturday.  I was at the gym when it started but had no problems driving home.  Had a few dozen slide offs across the county, no one got hurt.

Freezing rain which turned into rain as it warmed up overnight.  I guess they got snow up around Lake Michigan.  Beverly Shores where I go during the summer got a bunch of snow, but down here we got rain, buckets of it.

Washed away the snow except for the mounds in the parking lots.  It's now 45 and I'm off to the range which will be mostly quicksand with all the mud.  Blek!  Maybe I should have taken that AUSA gig in Houston in '95.
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Post by: Gewehr98 on February 25, 2007, 09:39:43 AM
My wife, #2 stepson and I just shoveled 24 inches of snow off our driveway, then attacked the 4-5 feet berm the county plowed right across our access to the main road.   angry

I don't think it really snowed that much, but instead drifted in some places thanks to the wind gusts.  If I open the vertical blinds to our back sliding door, you'll see 2 feet of snow up against the glass, level at the same amount all across the back deck.   

Around midnight last night we had "thundersnow", which was kind of like one huge flashbulb going off in the opaque cloud deck, vs. distinct lightning bolts.  The power flickered when it happened, and my first reaction was to head to the garage and get ready to fire up the generator and switch over to my 24v inverter backup system as needed. 

We dug the truck out, and freed our mailbox from the county-plowed berm.  The plow came screaming through once again as we were finishing up that end of our driveway, so we all stood at the end of the driveway waving our shovels at him like angry villagers chasing Frankenstein's monster.  He got the hint, and gave us our space vs. plowing us in again. 

Right now as I look out the office window, I see #2 stepson has his snowboard out and is using the berm we created on the side of the driveway, as well as the county-created berm, for a personal ski-jump ramp.   grin
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Post by: charby on February 25, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
Well looks like we only got about 8" of snow but it was the wet heavy kind that has the consitancy of ice cream. Took me close to two hours with the snowblower to dig out mine and my neighbors drive, neighbor will be over later with some beer as usual.

I have a Siberian Elm in my side yard that lost about 1/3 of the branches, probably have to come down this spring becuase who knows what stress fractures happened to what is left of the tree. Plum trees out back are probably gone also. The white pines lost some branches but probably be okay.

Pushed a car out with Arizona plates that got hung up on the side street in the plow berm. He didn't have a clue how to get out, plus I guess in Arizona the don't understand you go to keep momentum up to get out the snow gumbo. Took him about a dozen attempts with me and 2 neighbors across the street to get him out.

I had my slowblower running at the same time and it ran out of gas, so I filled the tank about half full to finish and the pull cord broke but luckily the motor caught and started. Finished up and took Mrs Charby on a see storm damage/4x4 on side streets tour.

John Deere dealership was closed on Sunday so I went to Lowes to get a replacement pullcord, they wanted $7 for one, so I went and bought 50' of 5/16" nylon rope for $2.50. Got home and fixed it, now my green snowblower has a purple pull rope.

Called my parents in the AM and they had been without power since 2PM on Saturday and Dad was called out to an emergency 60 miles from their home. I guess the railroad needs electricity to work.

-C



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Post by: Gewehr98 on February 25, 2007, 01:01:21 PM
I understand folks needing to get out and do things when the weather turns sour, and I see the U.W. Hospital kept spare beds and food available for their staff to mitigate a bad commute.  The county hasn't asked me to stay downtown this weekend, but did for senior and mission-essential staff. I was home by 6 PM Saturday as the heavy stuff started coming down, and was glad to be inside by then. We all stayed home and just watched High Definition cable channels and baked tollhouse cookies. 

I was reading the Wisconsin DOT road reports at midnight and 3 AM today, with stretches of the Interstate labeled "Ice Covered and Hazardous" or even "Impassable". 

It saddened me to hear that a woman, her teenage daughter, and 8 year-old nephew decided to head somewhere during the blizzard, then lost control of their minivan on a curve and hit a county snowplow truck head-on.  The mother and daughter died instantly, the nephew was declared dead at the hospital.  The snowplow driver escaped unharmed, but was seriously traumatized by the event.

So what was so damned important that they had to go buzzing around in their minivan during the worst blizzard of the year?

Highway 151 runs behind my back yard.  Earlier this morning, my wife and I had the dogs out back for a potty break when we heard the distinctive crunch of metal-on-metal coming from the highway.  One driver got squirrely, and another ran right into him, sending both of them into the shoulder. 

If there's anything ironic about the storm and how people handle it, it's looking in the medians and shoulders for vehicles that spun out, and seeing Explorers, Suburbans, Tahoes, Cherokees, Durangos and other big 4x4 vehicles, some flipped on their sides or even upside down.  They seem to have an invincibility thing going...  cheesy   

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Post by: grislyatoms on February 25, 2007, 01:17:23 PM
If there's anything ironic about the storm and how people handle it, it's looking in the medians and shoulders for vehicles that spun out, and seeing Explorers, Suburbans, Tahoes, Cherokees, Durangos and other big 4x4 vehicles, some flipped on their sides or even upside down.  They seem to have an invincibility thing going...  cheesy   

Coming back from Colorado Springs through the storm that hit a couple days before New Years I saw this all too frequently. I was in the granny lane doing about 30-35, hubs locked in, switching in and out of 4x4. The granny lane had recently been plowed, the hammer lane had not.

Toyota pickup passed me in the hammer lane doing 50-55!

5-6 miles down the road, there it was, same Toyota on it's side in the median. I didn't stop, a snowplow and a couple other vehicles had already stopped. Saw quite a few others in the median and off the shoulder, too. I guess folks think that 4x4 will make up for lack of driving skill and common sense. rolleyes
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Post by: Monkeyleg on February 25, 2007, 01:26:31 PM
4x4 drivers? I love 'em (or at least some of them).

Yes, 4x4 enables one to get a faster start in snow. But some drivers forget that those vehicles have the same humble braking systems as two wheel drive vehicles.

The best winter car I ever had was a 1972 Buick LeSabre. That car would go through just about any amount of snow, provided the driver had the skill. It also had the largest ashtray I've ever seen in a car. Could probably hold two packs of butts.

The worst winter car was my '65 Pontiac GTO. If there were more than three snowflakes on the ground, I'd just sit at the stoplight with the rear tires spinning.
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Post by: Manedwolf on February 25, 2007, 01:58:02 PM
If there's anything ironic about the storm and how people handle it, it's looking in the medians and shoulders for vehicles that spun out, and seeing Explorers, Suburbans, Tahoes, Cherokees, Durangos and other big 4x4 vehicles, some flipped on their sides or even upside down.  They seem to have an invincibility thing going...  cheesy   

Coming back from Colorado Springs through the storm that hit a couple days before New Years I saw this all too frequently. I was in the granny lane doing about 30-35, hubs locked in, switching in and out of 4x4. The granny lane had recently been plowed, the hammer lane had not.

Toyota pickup passed me in the hammer lane doing 50-55!

5-6 miles down the road, there it was, same Toyota on it's side in the median. I didn't stop, a snowplow and a couple other vehicles had already stopped. Saw quite a few others in the median and off the shoulder, too. I guess folks think that 4x4 will make up for lack of driving skill and common sense. rolleyes

Yes, they seem to think they're invincible, until the combination of a high CG and stupidity in using BRAKES ON ICE causes them to end up rubber-side up. Every winter here, turn on the news, there's an inverted SUV.

Title: Re: A storm is brewing on the horizon............a snowstorm! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: charby on February 25, 2007, 02:50:33 PM
I love 4x4 in the winter time, makes driving a little easier but doesn't mean I can drive any faster. I do go out 4x4-ing on side streets before they are plowed. I used to go out and do the same thing in the country but that was when 3 or 4 vehicles were doing incase someone got stuck. We never went very fast just more of a trying to find a road no one had been down yet.