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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2010, 02:38:22 PM »
a mob that size is completely unpredictable and infinitely dangerous
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2010, 02:50:42 PM »
I'm pretty sure nobody thinks that any scenario where something like this escalates to gunplay is going to really have a winner.  The only kind of winner would be SEIU with the propaganda victory at the expense of multiple lives.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2010, 03:01:26 PM »
There is no good outcome for a situation of this kind.  Try to die honorably and take as many of the misbegotten with you as possible.  What the world makes of it will be, as always, varied and unpredictable.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2010, 04:17:27 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 24, 2010, 02:38:22 PM
a mob that size is completely unpredictable and infinitely dangerous

This.  All it takes is one person to kick in a door or throw a rock.  That will cascade.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2010, 04:40:06 PM »
I wonder if members of the mob weren't coached specifically not to attempt forced entry to the home?

A homeowner who opens fire on a mob for trampling his petunias will be crucified by the media - and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if some of the orgainzers were hoping such a thing would happen - they could use it to further inflame passions.

BUT . . . a homeowner who shoots any number of home invaders will be a very poor cause célèbre for the SEIU and the Washington, D.C. police department escorting them.

As unpredictable as a mob can be, I really don't see them pressing forward a decisive attack if their leaders are being stacked up in the doorway of a home they just forced entry to; they're not troops trained to face gunfire, they're a rabble. Consider Koreatown during the Rodney King riots - the mob dispersed, going on to easier pickings, after only a few shots were fired.

Hopefully, someone with a lick of common sense will see that continuing this sort of thing will not end well.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2010, 06:19:36 PM »
What if such mobs were to be... infiltrated by the opposing side for reasons of sabotage?
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2010, 06:21:49 PM »
the whole mob is not well coached therein lies the danger.  the mob leaders are very carefully coached.  i think finding out who the leaders are where they live and mounting  counter demonstration might be a good idea . only stay off their property sing hims pray for them  i think they will not enjoy it much
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2010, 06:46:05 PM »
Who doesn't think that anarchy is part of the playbook?  It's only a matter of time before the friction turns sanguinary.  Our enemies abroad have to be laughing at our confusion and dissension.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2010, 06:25:11 AM »
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A mob that size is not stopped, even my a belt-fed M60 or M2, with a front door serving as a choke point.

You can't stop a mob that size.

If it truly boils down to gunplay, the only thing that can potentially save your bacon is pulling a Wyatt Earp.  Find the biggest bully in the lot that is one of the ringleaders.  Talk to him directly and tell him they may get you in a rush, but not until you turn his head into a canoe.  Then point to another ringleader, and say:  you, too.  And another.

Put 3-4 men on direct notice that they will warrant the loving caress of your front sight, regardless of having 50, 100 or 500 thugs with them... and hope they back off.

This is also a situation where penetration means a lot. One of the things I like about my .303Brit SMLE is that, with FMJ, it could punch through 2-3 people before it ran out of steam. The Empire found it rather effective for crowd control in the colonies. I'm sure 7.62x54R and .30-06 rounds could be found that do the same.

If I ever encounter a mob like this, it's Rule .303 for sure....

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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2010, 11:56:22 AM »
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the whole mob is not well coached therein lies the danger.  the mob leaders are very carefully coached.  i think finding out who the leaders are where they live and mounting  counter demonstration might be a good idea . only stay off their property sing hims pray for them  i think they will not enjoy it much

Now that's an idea: identify the leaders and "counter-demonstrate." 
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #60 on: May 25, 2010, 01:14:15 PM »
Why did the popo escort them and stay on the scene?  No arrests made?  Fox News contrbitor Nena Easton lives next door to this guy, she asked the popo who where there why no arrests. The answer, they didn't want to incite the crowd.

Sucks to be the homeowner. He didn't have anyone to protect him. Guess the popo serves the SEIU.

Strory playing out in Fox News.

And it was the DC police.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #61 on: May 25, 2010, 01:18:09 PM »
Turn on Fox. You'll see the popo dancing all over to CYA. 
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #62 on: May 25, 2010, 01:21:28 PM »
target the union pres at his house. or raise the stakes  hold a prayer vigil outside his kids school. since kids are fair game. i've got a mean  streak  find a union official who's kid is getting married  show up at their wedding  or a graduation. not the circus the union did but a nice quiet prayer vigil candles and a skypilot to lead ya as you pray for god to guide the union back to righteousness.  have film crews the union thugs will show up. there probably will be injuries
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #63 on: May 25, 2010, 01:25:48 PM »
i only caught the moco cop.  they are cute nowadays  they pick their spokespeople carefully. the moco guy didn't impress me.  what was the dc cops spin?  i got the impression one tried to blame the other
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2010, 01:26:41 PM »
Good idea. I like it.

The interview Megyn Kelly just did with the 2 PD heads involved was just pathetic. Heads should roll at the departments involved. Sad thing is, if the home owner would have thought it necessary to defend himself, he would be in jail.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2010, 01:29:56 PM »
DC cops spin was blame it on the other department. Said his dept called the other and notified of the crowd. And that only one DC cop by accident crossed over the Maryland line. And that the cops couldn't act due to the homeowner not asking them to leave.

See if you can find it in podcast. It's a real enlightening interview. So many discrepancies to mention.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2010, 01:32:05 PM »
Quote from: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on May 25, 2010, 01:14:15 PM

Sucks to be the homeowner. He didn't have anyone to protect him. Guess the popo serves the SEIU.


And the SCOTUS have said the police aren't obligated to protect.  =|
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2010, 01:37:46 PM »
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And the SCOTUS have said the police aren't obligated to protect

yep. And you can bet if the homeowner had felt in fear of his life ans sons life, and acted. His ass would be in jail, put there by the same police who watched the crowd and did nothing.

And this was not the only location this crowd visited.
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2010, 01:51:56 PM »
Quote from: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on May 25, 2010, 01:14:15 PM
Why did the popo escort them and stay on the scene?  No arrests made?  Fox News contrbitor Nena Easton lives next door to this guy, she asked the popo who where there why no arrests. The answer, they didn't want to incite the crowd.

Sucks to be the homeowner. He didn't have anyone to protect him. Guess the popo serves the SEIU.

Strory playing out in Fox News.

And it was the DC police.

Yep, the DC police were there to protect the mob. You got it, they would jail or shoot the homeowner if he tried any resistance.

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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2010, 01:54:29 PM »
worst thing is?  this event really worked for them so expect to see it more  till someone gets hurt
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2010, 01:55:25 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 25, 2010, 01:54:29 PM
worst thing is?  this event really worked for them so expect to see it more  till someone gets hurt

Since when has someone getting hurt stopped union thuggery?
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2010, 01:57:50 PM »
A counter protest using Christmas Carols or Happy Birthday over and over would probably be a lot more effective than prayer.  It would make it a lot more difficult to dismiss as "the religious crazies".
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2010, 02:04:47 PM »
i was in on one of the first of these home invasion protests. ours was 50 folks who never made much noise and were led in prayer on the sidewalk in front of a managers house in a rich hood.  the company rolled over shortly after. its ok to be religious if its a black sky pilot and a mostly black union.  its white religious crazies that are bad.  didn't you get the email about that?
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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2010, 02:05:29 PM »
Quote from: makattak on May 25, 2010, 01:55:25 PM
Since when has someone getting hurt stopped union thuggery?

When it's the Union Thug Rabble RouserTM that winds up eating a steady diet of full metal jacket from a belt-fed? :angel:


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Re: SEIU invade private property to intimidate bank exec's teenage son
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2010, 02:08:16 PM »
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