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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 04:36:26 AM »
What say you give us a little run-down of the subject material, in order for this not to appear like your garden-variety drive-by posting? 

(Hint, hint...) ;)

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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 09:58:25 AM »
[Edited. He went from a link to a cut-and-paste]

No, no, no.

That's not what I was looking for, Dasmi.

We are not a news service or RSS feed.

We are an internet discussion forum.  Get it?  Discussion. 

This shouldn't be hard, people.

If you're going to do a drive-by linking, or a drive-by cut-and-paste, without at least putting some effort into fostering discussion of the intended topic, then there's not a lot of value added to the forum.

Likewise, if you preface a simple link with something as vague as "Some Naughty Language", then why is anybody really obliged to click on that link - especially if they're at a work computer, the kids are hanging around, etc?  It may very well be an interesting story, worth waiting to read at home after work. 

Let us know what we're getting into.  Tell us why it was worth your time to insert a link, or to cut-and-paste.

Otherwise, I'll just have to assume if it wasn't worth your time to describe what we're supposed to be looking at, then you're just being lazy and the thread isn't worth the time of the forum, either.

You don't have to write the Great American Novel. 

It could be something as simple as, "President Obama tripped up by BBC political editor's question.  His oratory skills do not impress our British friends.  Note: salty language."

See?  That wasn't difficult. ;)
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 11:40:07 AM »
IMO, it is more of the same stuff that shows he isn't really a very good politician.  I'm not even sure he would be a good campaigner if the media wasn't on his side. 
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 10:36:10 PM »
I'm pretty sure Bush would have concisely answered it with something similar to the last line of Obama's response.  Like this:  "Huh?  I'm not sure what you just asked, but I'm a great believist in looking forwards than looking backwards."  :D

. . . and that would have been a better answer.
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 11:28:43 PM »
Could someone just please explain what he said?

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The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 09:20:06 AM »
The question that flummoxed the great orator
John Crace
The Guardian, Friday 3 April 2009-04-05

Barack Obama, the World's Greatest Orator (â„¢all news organisations), didn't exactly cover himself in glory when the BBC's political editor Nick Robinson asked him a question about who was to blame for the financial crisis. Normally word perfect, Obama ummed, ahed and waffled for the best part of two and a half minutes. Here, John Crace decodes what he was really thinking ...
Nick Robinson: "A question for you both, if I may. The prime minister has repeatedly blamed the United States of America for causing this crisis. France and Germany both blame Britain and America for causing this crisis. Who is right? And isn't the debate about that at the heart of the debate about what to do now?" Brown immediately swivels to leave Obama in pole position. There is a four-second delay before Obama starts speaking [THANKS FOR NOTHING, GORDY BABY. REMIND ME TO HANG YOU OUT TO DRY ONE DAY.]

Barack Obama: "I, I, would say that, er ... pause [I HAVEN'T A CLUE] ... if you look at ... pause [WHO IS THIS NICK ROBINSON JERK?] ... the, the sources of this crisis ... pause [JUST KEEP GOING, BUDDY] ... the United States certainly has some accounting to do with respect to . . . pause [I'M IN WAY TOO DEEP HERE] ... a regulatory system that was inadequate to the massive changes that have taken place in the global financial system ... pause, close eyes [THIS IS GOING TO GO DOWN LIKE A CROCK OF **** HOME. HELP]. I think what is also true is that ... pause [I WANT NICK ROBINSON TO DISAPPEAR] ... here in Great Britain ... pause [****, GORDY'S THE HOST, DON'T LAND HIM IN IT] ... here in continental Europe ... pause [DAMN IT, BLAME EVERYONE.] ... around the world. We were seeing the same mismatch between the regulatory regimes that were in place and er ... pause [I'VE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT AGAIN] ... the highly integrated, er, global capital markets that have emerged ... pause [I'M REALLY WINGING IT NOW]. So at this point, I'm less interested in ... pause [YOU] ... identifying blame than fixing the problem. I think we've taken some very aggressive steps in the United States to do so, not just responding to the immediate crisis, ensuring banks are adequately capitalised, er, dealing with the enormous, er ... pause [WHY DIDN'T I QUIT WHILE I WAS AHEAD?] ... drop-off in demand and contraction that has taken place. More importantly, for the long term, making sure that we've got a set of, er, er, regulations that are up to the task, er, and that includes, er, a number that will be discussed at this summit. I think there's a lot of convergence between all the parties involved about the need, for example, to focus not on the legal form that a particular financial product takes or the institution it emerges from, but rather what's the risk involved, what's the function of this product and how do we regulate that adequately, much more effective coordination, er, between countries so we can, er, anticipate the risks that are involved there. Dealing with the, er, problem of derivatives markets, making sure we have set up systems, er, that can reduce some of the risks there. So, I actually think ... pause [FANTASTIC. I'VE LOST EVERYONE, INCLUDING MYSELF] ... there's enormous consensus that has emerged in terms of what we need to do now and, er ... pause [I'M OUTTA HERE. TIME FOR THE USUAL CLOSING BOLLOCKS] ... I'm a great believer in looking forwards than looking backwards.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/03/g20-barack-obama-nick-robinson-question

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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 09:48:29 AM »
Better response would have been, "When your up to your ass in alligators..."  :laugh:
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 10:11:28 AM »
Could someone just please explain what he said?

He said that you need to tell us why you post a copy of a newspaper article, or a link to it, and more prefferable what you personally think about the content of said article/link, or else you are just wasting bandwidth and annoying the moderator.

If you were inquiring about The Great Orrator, he said, and I quote: "err,"  "um,"  "uh," and something that sounded a bit like "[teeny, tiny voice] I'm dying here.  Where's my teleprompter? [/teeny, tiny voice]"

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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 12:02:22 PM »
He should have said:

Why the EU and all you socialist bastages caused this crisis...  ;/

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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 01:23:44 PM »
Duplicate thread.

Cleaned-up and merged.
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 01:38:04 AM »
Condescend much?
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 01:52:50 PM »
Huh?

'splain, please.
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 02:10:49 PM »
This:
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No, no, no.

That's not what I was looking for, Dasmi.

We are not a news service or RSS feed.

We are an internet discussion forum.  Get it?  Discussion.

This shouldn't be hard, people.

If you're going to do a drive-by linking, or a drive-by cut-and-paste, without at least putting some effort into fostering discussion of the intended topic, then there's not a lot of value added to the forum.

Likewise, if you preface a simple link with something as vague as "Some Naughty Language", then why is anybody really obliged to click on that link - especially if they're at a work computer, the kids are hanging around, etc?  It may very well be an interesting story, worth waiting to read at home after work.

Let us know what we're getting into.  Tell us why it was worth your time to insert a link, or to cut-and-paste.

Otherwise, I'll just have to assume if it wasn't worth your time to describe what we're supposed to be looking at, then you're just being lazy and the thread isn't worth the time of the forum, either.

You don't have to write the Great American Novel.

It could be something as simple as, "President Obama tripped up by BBC political editor's question.  His oratory skills do not impress our British friends.  Note: salty language."

See?  That wasn't difficult. Wink
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2009, 02:24:58 PM »
I'm not saying anything that other staff members here haven't already said, repeatedly.

Somehow we're failing to get the idea across, though.

It's not for lack of trying...

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=15913.0

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=15802.0

Condescending?  Ok, if you think so.

I think it's more of a swinging clue bat, myself.
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Re: The question that flummoxed the great orator
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2009, 07:36:47 PM »
You guys should have heard him on NASA TV when he and some Senators were talking to the astronauts. He was horrible. There were so many umms and ahs in a simple interview it was hard to believe.
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