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The good Senator form Nevada
« on: April 04, 2009, 12:46:48 PM »
Everyone focuses on the disgraceful Senator from Nevada, the Republican Senator John Ensign is a real good guy.

Ensign gun control plan makes nation's capital vulnerable to terrorist attack, critics say

April 3, 2009

WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation’s capital would be more vulnerable to a terrorist attack if the District of Columbia’s gun laws were weakened, the city’s attorney general said Friday.
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Peter Nickles testified before a House subcommittee examining the potential effect of a gun amendment attached to legislation that would give D.C. its first full vote in Congress.

The measure sponsored by Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., would repeal the city’s strict gun registration requirements and restrictions on semiautomatic weapons.

“The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, demonstrated something that we have known for some time: government facilities, dignitaries and public servants are prime targets for terrorists,” Nickles said. “As a result, it would seem to me the district is the last place where residents across the country would want to allow assault weapons.”

Nickles testified on behalf of D.C. police chief Cathy Lanier, who was unable to attend Friday’s hearing because of a family emergency. Lanier testified that she had “grave concerns” when a similar bill was considered by Congress last year.

Friday’s hearing led by Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, the city’s nonvoting member of Congress, comes as Democratic leaders plot how to move the voting rights bill forward in the House. The Senate has already passed the measure with the gun amendment attached.

The amendment has D.C. voting-rights advocates in a bind. If the gun language remains, there’s concern the bill might be killed by liberal lawmakers who favor gun control. But taking out the amendment could erode support from gun-rights Democrats.

“Congress has largely regarded the bill as another piece of local legislation,” said Norton, one of only a few lawmakers at the hearing. “However, federal police must operate largely under the district’s gun laws and have testified that these gun laws have been critical to homeland security.”

Assistant U.S. Capitol Police Chief Daniel Nichols told lawmakers Friday he could not comment specifically on pending legislation. But he said allowing residents to carry guns outside their homes would “complicate” law enforcement efforts.
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As of right now, police are trained to view anyone carrying a weapon as a threat, he said. Ensign’s amendment would allow residents to carry guns to and from a place of business.

Ensign’s office did not immediately return a request for comment. The amendment comes after the Supreme Court affirmed in June that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applies to private citizens and ruled that D.C.’s 32-year-old handgun ban was unconstitutional.

Since then, D.C. officials have rewritten their gun laws to comply with the ruling. But the National Rifle Association and other lawmakers, including Ensign, say the city continues to violate the constitution by imposing numerous restrictions on gun ownership.

But Nickles argued the amendment would make Washington’s gun regulations among the most lax in the nation, making it much harder for law enforcement to protect dignitaries who frequently travel by motorcade through the city.

He also criticized a provision that would allow D.C. residents to buy handguns in Maryland and Virginia without going through a federally licensed dealer in D.C. — something that is not allowed anywhere else in the country.

Rep. Donna Edwards, D-Md., said the costs of extra background checks would place a “tremendous burden” on the state at a time when its budget is already strained.

As of right now, police are trained to view anyone carrying a weapon as a threat, he said. Ensign’s amendment would allow residents to carry guns to and from a place of business.

Ensign’s office did not immediately return a request for comment. The amendment comes after the Supreme Court affirmed in June that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applies to private citizens and ruled that D.C.’s 32-year-old handgun ban was unconstitutional.

Since then, D.C. officials have rewritten their gun laws to comply with the ruling. But the National Rifle Association and other lawmakers, including Ensign, say the city continues to violate the constitution by imposing numerous restrictions on gun ownership.

But Nickles argued the amendment would make Washington’s gun regulations among the most lax in the nation, making it much harder for law enforcement to protect dignitaries who frequently travel by motorcade through the city.

He also criticized a provision that would allow D.C. residents to buy handguns in Maryland and Virginia without going through a federally licensed dealer in D.C. — something that is not allowed anywhere else in the country.

Rep. Donna Edwards, D-Md., said the costs of extra background checks would place a “tremendous burden” on the state at a time when its budget is already strained.
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Re: The good Senator form Nevada
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 01:28:16 PM »
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“The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, demonstrated something that we have known for some time: government facilities, dignitaries and public servants are prime targets for terrorists,” Nickles said. “As a result, it would seem to me the district is the last place where residents across the country would want to allow assault weapons.”

Wouldn't want to inconvenience the Islamic terrorist savages, eh? Someone really ought to mention far more people died in the attacks against the World Trade Center and crash landing in Pennsylvania than the Pentagon.
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Re: The good Senator form Nevada
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 08:09:10 AM »
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But Nickles argued the amendment would make Washington’s gun regulations among the most lax in the nation, making it much harder for law enforcement to protect dignitaries who frequently travel by motorcade through the city.
Gee, more relaxed than Vermont, or Alaska?  Or maybe even more than Floida?
I really don't think so.

When the guns were outlawed, only the outlaws and security forces had guns.
 
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Cities that have gun ban laws enacted are not significantly safer The examples of Washington DC and New York show that with a gun ban law they are one of the most dangerous cities within the US. This leads to the conclusion that reality should have reinforced the reasoning that gunning bans provides more safety to the public. Absent of this confirmation one can argue that banning guns is not an effective way of ensuring public safety."

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Re: The good Senator form Nevada
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 12:19:36 PM »
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When the guns were outlawed, only the outlaws and security forces had guns.

That is becoming increasingly redundant.
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Re: The good Senator form Nevada
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 04:18:05 PM »
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When the guns were outlawed, only the outlaws and security forces had guns.
That is becoming increasingly redundant.

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