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Title: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Ben on April 13, 2018, 02:55:52 PM
New York City has been infiltrated by chicken restaurants with extremely polite employees. Will these right wing horrors never cease?!?

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/04/13/have-a-sandwich-the-new-yorker-loses-their-sht-over-chick-fil-as-christian-infiltration-of-nyc/
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 13, 2018, 02:58:42 PM
Shhh . . . don't tell them about the Jewish delicatessens . . .
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 13, 2018, 03:07:27 PM
Chick-fil-a is about as unassuming a "Christian" company as can be.

I have never seen any religious materials at any restaurant (and my children LOVE Chick-fil-a so we are frequent visitors.)

The staff is unfailingly polite, courteous, and helpful. (And the food is excellent. Since I've been needing more fiber in my diet, I almost always get a salad when we visit lately. Even their salads are tasty!)

The KNOWLEDGE that the owners are Christian and that they live it out (partly by closing on Sundays) is enough to set the liberals off.

That really ought to open the eyes of any who don't think the left wants to crush any and all dissent, ESPECIALLY evangelical Christians.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: MechAg94 on April 13, 2018, 03:15:44 PM
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THE POWER OF CHICKEN COMPELS YOU!

THE POWER OF CHICKEN COMPELS YOU!

 :laugh: =D
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 13, 2018, 05:14:09 PM
If you read the whole article, the nutter goes from his fear of a foreign invader (foreigners in NYC! Panic!) to a complaint that Chick-fil-a is too conformist, like all those other fast food chains in the city.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: French G. on April 13, 2018, 06:28:14 PM
Had I money I would be a terrorist, order CFA daily and send it to the New Yorker office. Put them on blast for hating poor people if they trash it. Hopefully get an employee to say something positive on social media and then magnify that.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: 230RN on April 17, 2018, 09:51:54 AM
New Yorker writers, editors, and contributors do not need to have a coherent premise or any rational continuity in their articles.  All they have to do is string many many many many words together in a grammatically consistent manner.

Many, many, many... many... words.

I quit reading it except for the cartoons long before I left Noo Yawk, and haven't looked at it since then.  Besides, Playboy had better cartoons anyhow.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 17, 2018, 09:52:56 AM
Iowahawk suggested that NYC build a wall...
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: MechAg94 on April 17, 2018, 10:09:13 AM
Iowahawk suggested that NYC build a wall...
Interesting idea.  I like it.  Can we then evict crazy liberals in other areas and dump them over the wall?  No one could ever escape from that. 
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 17, 2018, 10:58:33 AM
Interesting idea.  I like it.  Can we then evict crazy liberals in other areas and dump them over the wall?  No one could ever escape from that. 

No one?

(https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.I9ugDDy30UnkGQkxE5JWPAHaJK&pid=Api)
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: TechMan on April 17, 2018, 11:25:31 AM
No one?

(https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.I9ugDDy30UnkGQkxE5JWPAHaJK&pid=Api)

How did I know that was going to be the next reply.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Ben on April 17, 2018, 11:33:05 AM
So I just saw a news snippet on the TV where they mentioned New Yorkers complaining about bible verses on the walls. I don't have a local Chick-fil-A, so only visit one when I'm traveling, but I don't remember seeing any "blatant" Christian verses around the restaurants. Either I'm oblivious (which is true), or any verses are fairly inconspicuous.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 17, 2018, 11:35:09 AM
How did I know that was going to be the next reply.

When some lobs one like that over the plate....
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 17, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
So I just saw a news snippet on the TV where they mentioned New Yorkers complaining about bible verses on the walls. I don't have a local Chick-fil-A, so only visit one when I'm traveling, but I don't remember seeing any "blatant" Christian verses around the restaurants. Either I'm oblivious (which is true), or any verses are fairly inconspicuous.

From what I understand, there are bible verses on the walls.

Of the Headquarters. In Atlanta. (And a statue of Jesus)

You know, signifying that they are from "THAT tribe".
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Scout26 on April 17, 2018, 11:43:14 AM
Got a Jesus Chicken here about  2 miles from Festung Scout.   Great chicken sandwiches.   I don't recall any blatant Christian "stuff" anywhere in the store.  However, my town is EXTREMELY evangelical Christian so I would notice it.

The only thing that I find somewhat "weird" is how polite and positive they employees are .  Like beyond "Stepford Wives" courteous.

Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: dogmush on April 17, 2018, 11:51:58 AM
Larry Correia had fun with this article. (http://monsterhunternation.com/2018/04/16/fisking-the-new-yorker-in-defense-of-delicious-chicken/)
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Ben on April 17, 2018, 12:02:08 PM
Larry Correia had fun with this article. (http://monsterhunternation.com/2018/04/16/fisking-the-new-yorker-in-defense-of-delicious-chicken/)

That was great!  :rofl:

I especially liked:

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The ironic thing here is a dude who probably faps to Whole Foods ads for cruelty free kale is super upset that somebody else came up with a successful advertising slogan.

Also I wonder what Gary Larson thinks about the whole, "One animal convincing you to kill and eat another animal" outrage.  I think that's like 25% of Far Side cartoons.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 17, 2018, 12:18:14 PM
I've seen (probably) gay employees in chick fil a.
I've seen Muslim employees in chick fil a.
Mexicans, blacks, asians, middle eastern and whites.
Old and young.

I've never once seen religious propaganda in one, nor have I ever been prostoltized in one.

The New Yorker can *expletive deleted*ck off.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 17, 2018, 12:19:23 PM
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...there’s already a train full of s**t every time Dan commutes. 

Almost got me to spew my coffee on that one.

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There are secret burger places literally hidden inside hotel lobbies (behind curtains!).

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Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 17, 2018, 12:20:40 PM
I've never once seen religious propaganda in one, nor have I ever been prostoltized in one.



My dry cleaner offers one-hour prostoltizing.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Scout26 on April 17, 2018, 12:40:07 PM

My dry cleaner offers one-hour prostoltizing.

Get your soul cleaned and pressed in a hour ??
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: MillCreek on April 17, 2018, 02:52:53 PM
I thought prostoltizing was when I got the finger wave from my internist at my annual visit.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: 230RN on April 17, 2018, 03:12:40 PM
Prostoltizing?

I thought it was the act of shouting "Prost!" when raising one's glass in a toast.

REF ("prost!"):
1.cheers (the usual toast when drinking alcohol)

Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 17, 2018, 04:08:13 PM
I may be the odd man out here but while Chik-fil-a is "OK" I just don't see what all the fuss is about.
They make a decent fast-food grade chicken sandwich and their breakfast chicken biscuit is fine enough I just don't se it as anything all that special.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Ben on April 17, 2018, 05:17:30 PM
I may be the odd man out here but while Chik-fil-a is "OK" I just don't see what all the fuss is about.
They make a decent fast-food grade chicken sandwich and their breakfast chicken biscuit is fine enough I just don't se it as anything all that special.


Pretty much it is "OK" as you say, which is part of the point. People go there for the same reason they go to other fast food chains: Standard food so they don't have to experiment in some locale they are just passing through, for example. It's generally better than McDonald's with the added bonus of spotless restaurants with, as has been said, extremely nice and polite employees who go way out of their way for customer service.

I don't think anyone is claiming that they're fives stars. It's that they are a decent, clean, and friendly place to eat. I have never been proselytized to in a Cick-fil-A, never seen any "God references" or anything else religious. Unless you count that their customer service seems to be based on "Do unto others" and other polite stuff out of the bible, that happens to be part of other religions and philosophies as well.

People come to Chick-fil-A's defense because SJWs attack them just because the owner is a Christian.Because of that they somehow think Chick-fil-A should be run out of business, putting thousands (tens of thousands?) of decent, hardworking people out of a job.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: 230RN on April 17, 2018, 05:30:48 PM
Ben remarked,

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People come to Chick-fil-A's defense because SJWs attack them just because the owner is a Christian.Because of that they somehow think Chick-fil-A should be run out of business, putting thousands (tens of thousands?) of decent, hardworking people out of a job.

Of course.  Anything that stresses the economic or social system is good for SJWs.  Who seem to be mostly communists socialists liberals.  (Liberals in the modern sense. :) )

Terry
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 17, 2018, 06:32:05 PM
Pretty much it is "OK" as you say, which is part of the point. People go there for the same reason they go to other fast food chains: Standard food so they don't have to experiment in some locale they are just passing through, for example. It's generally better than McDonald's with the added bonus of spotless restaurants with, as has been said, extremely nice and polite employees who go way out of their way for customer service.

I don't think anyone is claiming that they're fives stars. It's that they are a decent, clean, and friendly place to eat. I have never been proselytized to in a Cick-fil-A, never seen any "God references" or anything else religious. Unless you count that their customer service seems to be based on "Do unto others" and other polite stuff out of the bible, that happens to be part of other religions and philosophies as well.

People come to Chick-fil-A's defense because SJWs attack them just because the owner is a Christian.Because of that they somehow think Chick-fil-A should be run out of business, putting thousands (tens of thousands?) of decent, hardworking people out of a job.

Yup. I go for the tribalism. And ya gotta eat somewhere.

Another thing I've heard about them is they pay a little better than other joints.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: freakazoid on April 17, 2018, 07:04:11 PM
Larry Correia had fun with this article. (http://monsterhunternation.com/2018/04/16/fisking-the-new-yorker-in-defense-of-delicious-chicken/)

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But not the New Yorker. “Would you like fries with that?” “NO I WOULD LIKE RIGOROUS IDEOLOGICAL PURITY!” “Okay, should I make that a combo?”
:rofl:
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: KD5NRH on April 17, 2018, 11:53:39 PM
I may be the odd man out here but while Chik-fil-a is "OK" I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

Like Arby's, it's all about the sauce.  Unlike Arby's, however, they don't let you pump out half a gallon for yourself, instead making you beg at the counter for tiny little tubs of the stuff.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 18, 2018, 07:27:00 AM
Chick fil a is okay food.  Good tasting for fast food.  I like being able to get actual chicken (not a formed patty) breast.
Chick fil a thrives on having good customer service, a product line that is different than their competition, and modern and clean restaurants.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 18, 2018, 08:26:07 AM
Like Arby's, it's all about the sauce.  Unlike Arby's, however, they don't let you pump out half a gallon for yourself, instead making you beg at the counter for tiny little tubs of the stuff.

I was going to say that to him as well. (Minus the Arby's part.)

You have to use the Chick-fil-A sauce or the Polynesian sauce on the sandwiches.

Incidentally, ask for extra pickles, too. The sandwich is even better covered in pickles.

And if you think it's just "Ok", you haven't had their Peach Shake.


It's hands down the best fast food you can get. Once you get into short order, its better than most of those as well, but they have no competition in the "fast food" category.

Of course that may be what you mean by "Ok".
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Jamisjockey on April 18, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
I was going to say that to him as well. (Minus the Arby's part.)

You have to use the Chick-fil-A sauce or the Polynesian sauce on the sandwiches.

Incidentally, ask for extra pickles, too. The sandwich is even better covered in pickles.

And if you think it's just "Ok", you haven't had their Peach Shake.


It's hands down the best fast food you can get. Once you get into short order, its better than most of those as well, but they have no competition in the "fast food" category.

Of course that may be what you mean by "Ok".


It is what it is.
Fast food is trash. 
We just think it tastes good because it's laden with salt, sugar, and fat.
Work down from OK and that's the competition that Chick Fil A has.



Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: MechAg94 on April 18, 2018, 08:57:15 AM
Chick fil a is okay food.  Good tasting for fast food.  I like being able to get actual chicken (not a formed patty) breast.
Chick fil a thrives on having good customer service, a product line that is different than their competition, and modern and clean restaurants.

It is nice when you have a fast food place that has someone going around cleaning tables and keeping things fairly clean.  Most Burger King and McDonalds have minimal staff and that sort of thing is a spare time activity.  Of course, that applies to any place selling food.

Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Ben on April 18, 2018, 09:01:50 AM
My "OK" was in relation to all food out there. Great food is generally food I make myself. If you're looking at just the fast food genre, I'll give Chick-fil-A a "great", though I probably like In n Out a bit better (for my tastes, YMMV). But if it's Chick-fil-A compared to the major fast food chains, sure, I'll generally head for the Chick-fil-A instead, based on all the reasons outlined above.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 18, 2018, 09:49:05 AM
OK, this article is a little weird.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/17/heres-why-new-yorkers-are-really-upset-with-the-chick-fil-a-invasion/

But I love how he calls Chick-fil-a "God's chicken stand."  :laugh:
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 18, 2018, 09:50:41 AM
Another point in their favor:

Their restaurants continue to be "kid-friendly" while all the other ones seem to be moving away from that. (Looking at you, McDonald's.)

As I don't really care for McDonald's, I'm especially happy my children will prefer Chick-fil-A to any other fast food place.
Title: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: p12 on April 18, 2018, 10:20:08 AM
Their grilled club is a damn good sammich.

They should send 7 sandwiches for 7 days to the New Yorker with a note attached they reads the following

“Believe in the chicken or go to burgers.”

Edit:

“Thou shalt believe in the chicken or be thee condemned to burgers.”

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Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 18, 2018, 10:27:39 AM
Just because:

http://www.businessinsider.com/chick-fil-a-opens-sunday-atlanta-hartsfield-jackson-airport-diaster-2017-12
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: 230RN on April 18, 2018, 10:51:18 AM
I never noticed them before, but there are two near me on Sheridan and another on West Colfax.  I reckon I'll give them a try, although I'm not partial to chicken breasts.

None in Golden, but the West Colfax one is close.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 18, 2018, 11:08:58 AM

You have to use the Chick-fil-A sauce or the Polynesian sauce on the sandwiches.


I've been to Chick-fil-A on a dozen or more occasions. I have never heard of these sauces.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: dogmush on April 18, 2018, 11:17:23 AM
Their grilled club is a damn good sammich.

They should send 7 6 sandwiches for 7 6 days to the New Yorker with a note attached they reads the following

“Believe in the chicken or go to burgers.”

Edit:

“Thou shalt believe in the chicken or be thee condemned to burgers.”

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They should skip Sunday.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Scout26 on April 18, 2018, 11:26:37 AM
My "OK" was in relation to all food out there. Great food is generally food I make myself. If you're looking at just the fast food genre, I'll give Chick-fil-A a "great", though I probably like In n Out a bit better (for my tastes, YMMV). But if it's Chick-fil-A compared to the major fast food chains, sure, I'll generally head for the Chick-fil-A instead, based on all the reasons outlined above.

This.  They have the best Chicken Sandwich* of any chain (and most one-off's, in fact I can't think of place with a better chicken [breast] sandwich), same with their version of Nuggets   The Waffle Fries dipped in Chick-fil-A sauce are awesome.   The restaurants are exceptionally clean.  The staff is beyond friendly, courteous, and helpful.  Like scary helpful.   The Jesus Chicken near me is always packed and there's always a line in the drive-through, yet, there's never a very long wait once your order is in. (and the lines move fairly quickly to get your order in).  They take good care of their employees.  (Above average wages and benefits, plus every Sunday off.)  If the food was crap, people wouldn't go there, no matter if it was a "Christian" place or not.  

230RN, I'd be interested to read your review of Chick-fil-A.




* - I agree with extra pickles, but I put mayo and not the Chick-fil-A sauce on mine.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 18, 2018, 11:28:05 AM
Would The New Yorker be happier if the Cows were pushing rat extermination?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29581/one-dirty-rat-defies-de-blasio%E2%80%94and-its-hilarious-hank-berrien

I'm surprised De Blasio wants to be seen honcho-ing a rat-killing operation. Then again, I guess rats are the big enemy in NYC. What do I know? I live in primitive fly-over country, where we don't have a rat problem.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Ben on April 18, 2018, 11:34:18 AM
The Jesus Chicken near me is always packed and there's always a line in the drive-through, yet, there's never a very long wait once your order is in. (and the lines move fairly quickly to get your order in).  They take good care of their employees.  (Above average wages and benefits, plus every Sunday off.)  If the food was crap, people wouldn't go there, no matter if it was a "Christian" place or not.  

What is also funny to me, is even when Jesus Chicken (I'm gonna start using that  :laugh: ) is in a liberal place, it's freakin' packed. They put one in commie pinko Santa Barbara just before I moved. The local commie rag opinion pages (as well as what passed for "news" articles) were packed with Jesus Chicken hate and "not in our town!"

Yet, from the day it opened, and to this day when I pass through town there, the place is always packed to the point of vehicles flowing into the main drag.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 18, 2018, 07:03:10 PM
Cal Poly (San Luis Obispo) has a Chick-fil-A on campus.  Oddly, I didn't see any heads exploding.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 18, 2018, 07:06:27 PM

I've been to Chick-fil-A on a dozen or more occasions. I have never heard of these sauces.

Be sure to ask at the counter for them, next time.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: KD5NRH on April 18, 2018, 08:10:51 PM
Be sure to ask at the counter for them, next time.

If you want more than two, you'll be ushered into a confessional in the back.  Only after convincing them that you are Truly Worthy can you receive extra sauces.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: French G. on April 18, 2018, 08:47:30 PM
I have one gripe with them, they do the name for an order thing even though they find your table by color coded bucket. I usually give my kid's name, although Achmed does rattle the clientele and staff. My dad prefers biblical names. Just a time waster to type in names.

Beyond that, yes fast food can be trash. And sometimes that's what we can afford in money or time. And it is possible to stay healthy eating any of them, CFA just makes it easier. It is the only fast food joint left where I get a full meal because waffle fries. The others I have a $5 limit, no fries, no soda. CFA is the only fast food salad edible, the rest use a ton of preservatives and I know because of immediate consequences, the same uncertain feeling I get from Subway veggies. So I usually half a salad, waffle fries and a tea/lemonade, or just unsweet tea.

The drive thru is the best, hit a busy one at lunch and there will be employees with tablets taking orders back in the line. More evidence of what I figure is better managers and better training.
Title: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: p12 on April 19, 2018, 11:16:04 AM
They should skip Sunday.


Hmmm? 666 the sign of the devil. I know that’s only two 6s but they wouldn’t know the difference.


That might work too!


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Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: makattak on April 19, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Fistful, let me help you out with what you are looking for:

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MMmmm... Propylene glycol alginate...
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 19, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
So that's the sauce that tastes just like the creamy, frothy hatred that Mother used to make?
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Scout26 on April 19, 2018, 03:19:46 PM
Do they have a Racism flavor ??





BTW, you all win.  I've got to run some errands, and I'll be stopping at Jesus Chicken for Dinner.  :angel: :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 19, 2018, 04:12:55 PM
Do they have a Racism flavor ??



Well, they are a white-owned company that serves fried chicken.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: 230RN on April 19, 2018, 04:38:56 PM
employees.  (Above average wages and benefits, plus every Sunday off.)
...
230RN, I'd be interested to read your review of Chick-fil-A.

It may be a while, the next time I have to go to the Harbor Freight down thataway.  This thread will probably be on Page 4 by that time, so I'll PM you, I guess.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Scout26 on April 20, 2018, 12:15:25 AM
It may be a while, the next time I have to go to the Harbor Freight down thataway.  This thread will probably be on Page 4 by that time, so I'll PM you, I guess.

Nah, just dig down and find it.


PS.  I never noticed it before, but the have one of each of the sauces on top of the drink dispensers.  The Polynesian sauce is very sweet, too sweet for my taste.
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Fly320s on April 20, 2018, 08:00:07 AM
The Polynesian sauce is very sweet, too sweet for my taste.

Too sweet?  How is that possible?  It only contains sugar, corn syrup, cider vinegar, and beet juice.

I looked it up.  13 grams of sugar in that packet.  That is three teaspoons of sugar.  And you think it is too sweet.  I can't understand why.  =D
Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: Scout26 on April 25, 2018, 08:59:58 PM
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Title: Re: NYC Has Been Infiltrated!
Post by: just Warren on April 25, 2018, 09:09:17 PM
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