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Title: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: gunsmith on February 05, 2017, 04:30:57 PM
it was all over facebook a few weeks ago?
...AH... here it is.  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/09/video-gun-store-owner-shoots-through-counter-kills-robbery-suspect/

 The dead guy seemed to think that using to handguns would work in real life as good as it does in the movies.
Mr grey hair here, it looks like he regularly practices , I bet he had a 1911 platform of some sort, he really seems pretty competent.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: BobR on February 05, 2017, 04:35:54 PM
Although the title say he shot through the counter, I don't believe he did.

bob
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 05, 2017, 04:39:16 PM
https://youtu.be/ISFU5ehObC0
Looks like this one.  This guy does half way decent reviews and doesn't go on at length too much.  He does keep calling it a gun store though.

That youtube guy has a lot of self defense video reviews posted.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Ben on February 05, 2017, 04:41:36 PM
Although the title say he shot through the counter, I don't believe he did.

bob

I was thinking the same. Maybe the dead guy shot a reflex round?

Store owner was one cool customer. Good shoot. Good situational awareness after the first guy went down too.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: lee n. field on February 05, 2017, 05:35:48 PM
it was all over facebook a few weeks ago?
...AH... here it is.  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/09/video-gun-store-owner-shoots-through-counter-kills-robbery-suspect/

 The dead guy seemed to think that using to handguns would work in real life as good as it does in the movies.
Mr grey hair here, it looks like he regularly practices , I bet he had a 1911 platform of some sort, he really seems pretty competent.

"Yep" to both points.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 05, 2017, 06:33:46 PM
I love a story with a happy ending.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: zahc on February 05, 2017, 07:35:29 PM
It looks like he came pretty close to emptying that 1911.

It's a good thing BG 1 dropped like a sack of potatoes. I wish I knew what the shot placement was.

Also, hurray to GG 2 for getting right out of the way. I think I would have just hit the deck.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: gunsmith on February 05, 2017, 07:43:04 PM
I can no longer view video due to data restrictions imposed by the rv park, but iirc I thought it was the badguy who shot the counter, it was my thinking that he got confused for half a second in trying to cover two people with two guns.
I'm sure we know how difficult it is to pull off a trick like that, looks cool in the movies though.
One thing that surprised me was the impact did knock the bad guy down, he didn;t simply crumple to the floor like I've seen in other video's of shootings.
There was a video of a murderer shooting people with an AK variant and they dropped like a stone, no falling backward.
Why would a pistol round have an effect that a rifle round wouldn't?
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Ben on February 05, 2017, 07:59:25 PM
I can no longer view video due to data restrictions imposed by the rv park, but iirc I thought it was the badguy who shot the counter, it was my thinking that he got confused for half a second in trying to cover two people with two guns.
I'm sure we know how difficult it is to pull off a trick like that, looks cool in the movies though.
One thing that surprised me was the impact did knock the bad guy down, he didn;t simply crumple to the floor like I've seen in other video's of shootings.
There was a video of a murderer shooting people with an AK variant and they dropped like a stone, no falling backward.
Why would a pistol round have an effect that a rifle round wouldn't?

Watching Mech's video, the glass was shot after good guy got off his first shot (or two?). It seems like it could have been bad guy who shot the counter, but it could have been goodguy's third or fourth shot too.

Funny, I kinda thought the bad guy went down movie style, almost looking like he was shoved backwards.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Jocassee on February 05, 2017, 08:03:18 PM
Dindu #1 never even twitched after he went down. I like that.

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Funny, I kinda thought the bad guy went down movie style, almost looking like he was shoved backwards.

Ben, it looked to me like Dindu#1 was trying to lean back to the deck while firing forward, and bought it in the process. Definitely not the rounds pushing him back
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: 230RN on February 05, 2017, 08:24:18 PM
Although the title say he shot through the counter, I don't believe he did.

bob

I don't think he did, either.

I thought the glass case was shot from the BG coming in from the extreme right, almost behind the pillar.  I guess he would have milked his shots to his left and low if he was holding gangsta style.  That's the way the bullets would go if he was, no?  Yes?

The sack of potatoes guy looked as if  he had been shot in the neck, with the bullet going through to his CNS/spine.  OP's Breitbart video seems to be truncated at the top of the screen, but MechAg's seems to show his head tipping forward as he is shot, then falling down.  Instantaneous loss of motor control as his left hand flopped down and the guns skidded away.

I sure wish they'd had audio going.

White-haired guy sure saved the State a lot of money in terms of trials and appeals and incarceration.

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Unisaw on February 05, 2017, 08:28:45 PM
I think bad guy #1 was hit in the spine or head, because collapse was instant and he didn't move at all after that.  Either that or a very bad case of OSIBH.  (Oh shucks, I've been hit. Or something like that.)
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: zahc on February 05, 2017, 08:45:08 PM
I can no longer view video due to data restrictions imposed by the rv park, but iirc I thought it was the badguy who shot the counter, it was my thinking that he got confused for half a second in trying to cover two people with two guns.
I'm sure we know how difficult it is to pull off a trick like that, looks cool in the movies though.
One thing that surprised me was the impact did knock the bad guy down, he didn;t simply crumple to the floor like I've seen in other video's of shootings.
There was a video of a murderer shooting people with an AK variant and they dropped like a stone, no falling backward.
Why would a pistol round have an effect that a rifle round wouldn't?

Momentum  vs. energy? .I know that I have shot things (cans, etc) that flipped back with a handgun, but .223 just punched through like butter without even moving it.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 05, 2017, 08:46:54 PM
https://youtu.be/ISFU5ehObC0
Looks like this one.

"As the dust clears, you can see that bad guy has taken the room-temperature challenge."

 :rofl:
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 05, 2017, 09:02:24 PM

One thing that surprised me was the impact did knock the bad guy down, he didn;t simply crumple to the floor like I've seen in other video's of shootings.

Why would a pistol round have an effect that a rifle round wouldn't?

Because the gun was a .45.

:duh:
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: RocketMan on February 05, 2017, 09:19:30 PM
The bad guy was already backpeddling when he got his strings cut.  His own momentum made it look like the shot moved him back as he fell.
Looked like the good guy either has had a lot of training, or has BTDT, or both.  Very calm and collected about the whole thing.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: gunsmith on February 05, 2017, 09:37:40 PM
Looked like the good guy either has had a lot of training, or has BTDT, or both.  Very calm and collected about the whole thing.

right!!
or as the kids say, IKR!
He's pretty cool, like he's been in a few gunfights.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 05, 2017, 11:02:34 PM
The bad guy was already backpeddling when he got his strings cut.  His own momentum made it look like the shot moved him back as he fell.
Looked like the good guy either has had a lot of training, or has BTDT, or both.  Very calm and collected about the whole thing.
Looking at the slower motion in the youtube link, I think dindu#1 started to backpedal once he saw the good guy's gun pointed at him.  I think he actually took a step backward before or as he was shot.  

Also, it almost looks like the good guy's 3rd shot might have gone low and hit the glass.  His muzzle was pointed low after the glass broke and dindu#1 was falling.  Maybe drawing his aim lower?  I think he was firing off a few pretty rapid shots. 
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: grampster on February 05, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
DRT.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: 230RN on February 06, 2017, 04:21:15 AM
^
IKR?

Hadda look up IKR.  

LIOM

(Lingo Is Outpacing Me. Gotta look up 73.247% of the acronyms I see.)

Anyhow, GS, NQAT.  Good shoot, no question about that.


Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: MechAg94 on February 06, 2017, 10:18:59 AM
I don't care for acronyms in general.  They usually expand in use far beyond usefulness and end up inhibiting communication.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: KD5NRH on February 06, 2017, 10:36:00 AM
I don't care for acronyms in general.  They usually expand in use far beyond usefulness and end up inhibiting communication.

tl;dr

Consider using some acronyms to shorten your rambling.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: dogmush on February 06, 2017, 10:47:11 AM
I don't care for acronyms in general.  They usually expand in use far beyond usefulness and end up inhibiting communication.
Sometimes they get out of hand, but TANSTAAFL.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: K Frame on February 06, 2017, 10:56:48 AM
I'm shocked. Where are the anguished cries from his family that "he was a good boy and was turning his life around," and "That man had no right just to shoot him down like he was a dog."

And let's not forget "How else was he gonna get his money?"
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Ben on February 06, 2017, 11:15:29 AM
I'm shocked. Where are the anguished cries from his family that "he was a good boy and was turning his life around," and "That man had no right just to shoot him down like he was a dog."

And let's not forget "How else was he gonna get his money?"

The wonders of video. Rest assured, had there not been a security cam, all you said would have come to pass.
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: gunsmith on February 06, 2017, 10:46:06 PM
I'm shocked. Where are the anguished cries from his family that "he was a good boy and was turning his life around," and "That man had no right just to shoot him down like he was a dog."

And let's not forget "How else was he gonna get his money?"

maybe they are quiet because second robber is a cousin or brother and they don't wan't to attract attention
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: K Frame on February 07, 2017, 06:21:15 AM
The wonders of video. Rest assured, had there not been a security cam, all you said would have come to pass.

Security cam video, dozens of witnesses, etc., certainly haven't been a bar to families bitching about how lil' Johnny Thuglife shouldn't have had his life ended just because he was pointing (or shooting) a gun at someone, and that the person who gunned him down in cold blood needs to be punished because, you know, Bureau of Land Management...
Title: Re: did you guys see that video/ pawn shop Georgia shoot out?
Post by: Ben on February 07, 2017, 09:22:37 AM
Security cam video, dozens of witnesses, etc., certainly haven't been a bar to families bitching about how lil' Johnny Thuglife shouldn't have had his life ended just because he was pointing (or shooting) a gun at someone, and that the person who gunned him down in cold blood needs to be punished because, you know, Bureau of Land Management...

This is true. Michael Brown was still a male Mother Theresa after the video showing him picking on the little old guy.