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Title: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 19, 2007, 08:42:32 AM
Did a bit of tech support this morning.  One of our agents was running XP Pro on a machine with only 128 meg of RAM.  Add to that a very non-tech-savvy user who kept as many things loaded as she could possibly fit on the task bar.  It  ...  was  ...  a  ...  little  ...  slow  ...  sometimes.

A gig of RAM later and it runs like a new.

Brad
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: K Frame on July 19, 2007, 09:14:08 AM
A gig of ram for a machine running XP is appropriate as a baseline.

However, if you're going to even think about opening MS Word or any other office application, 80 to 100 Gig is a minimum, and even that's on the shy side.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Gewehr98 on July 19, 2007, 10:43:11 AM
I have sinned.  I bumped up my machine to 2 Gig, running XP Pro.

(It's running SETI@Home, four work units at a time, 700 credits a day, so I figure it's for a good cause)  grin

http://www.boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=sah&id=8664996
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 19, 2007, 12:48:51 PM
I upgraded to 4096Mb a month or two back. Sure, I don't really need it, and only a few applications can use it, but I thought "What the hell!". Battlefield 2 maps especially seem to load a lot quicker.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Paddy on July 19, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
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However, if you're going to even think about opening MS Word or any other office application, 80 to 100 Gig is a minimum, and even that's on the shy side.
OK.  Compaq Presario AMD Sempron 2800+ 2.00 GHz 448mb RAM. XP Home Edition and  I run MS Word all the time. neener neener.   It takes about 15 seconds to load, though.  After that no problems.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Nick1911 on July 19, 2007, 01:55:56 PM
I upgraded to 4096Mb a month or two back. Sure, I don't really need it, and only a few applications can use it, but I thought "What the hell!". Battlefield 2 maps especially seem to load a lot quicker.

http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Ron on July 19, 2007, 03:20:51 PM
My Adobe Photoshop Elements 5 was slow while working in RAW or with many layers.

So a month ago I bumped my system up to 1 1/2 gig of ram.

Not sure the slight performance increase was worth the money.

I think Adobe products are just system hogs. I'm running XP Professional w/service pack 2, btw.

How slow/fast is my system nowadays compared to most? I have an AMD Athlon 64 processor 3400+ 2.41 GHz

Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 19, 2007, 04:12:36 PM
Let us see here.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-core 4600+ AM2 (1MB L2 Cache, 2.4GHz, 1066 FSB)

Running XP Pro x64 edition

2GB 533MHz DDR2 memory

That is the computer I just built and ordered online.  Been told that it will scream.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 19, 2007, 04:56:22 PM

Yeah, I am well aware of that. You are talking to a bloke who went out and got XP Pro x64, just for laughs.  grin
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Gewehr98 on July 19, 2007, 05:01:57 PM
You guys are running faster stuff than my big IBM brick.  I currently run dual 2.4Ghz Prestonia Xeons, 400Mhz FSB, 512Mb L2 cache on each processor, with Hyperthreading turned on so Win XP Pro SP2 sees a total of 4 processors in the Task Manager.  I've got the memory daughtercard maxed out at 2Gb of PC-800 RDRAM.  I may eventually get a pair of 2.8Ghz Gallatin Xeon MPs, with 1 or 2Gb of L2 cache, but they aren't giving those away, as I discovered when checking the prices on eBay and Pricewatch.   
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 19, 2007, 05:05:03 PM
Oh, and yeah, that rig looks tasty wmenorr67.

My setup:

Intel Core2Duo E6600 @ 2.60Ghz Air cooled (9x288)
Abit AW9D-MAX
4096Mb Corsair XMS2 6400 @ 361Mhz (DDR2 723) - 4-4-4-12
2x Raptor 74Gb, 2x Maxtor 300Gb, 2x Seagate 750Gb
Gainward Bliss 8800GTX @ 576Mhz GPU - 1800Mhz VRAM
Enermax Galaxy 1000w
Lian Li PCV-2000 Black
19" CRT - Viewsonic Graphics Series G90f+ @ 2048x1536 60Hz
4 Megabit Per Second Broadband

I do have a copy of Vista Ultimate lying about, but I'm not really too keen on making the jump completely, until after service pack 1. A dual-boot is tempting me, however.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Ron on July 19, 2007, 05:06:16 PM
Can you guys dumb it down for a minute and tell me where I am at in relation to whats available and what is common.

I know just enough to be dangerous when it comes to my computer, although XP Pro hasn't required a fraction of the attention my old Windows 98 system did.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 19, 2007, 05:13:04 PM
That's a fairly good system, for pretty much any task. For hardcore gaming, you would need an upgrade, but that's only the latest games, really.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Bogie on July 19, 2007, 05:20:17 PM
To me, it seems like photochop goes to the hard drive too easy... Still plenty of free RAM, and I'm hearing chainsaw noises...
 
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Ron on July 19, 2007, 05:21:20 PM
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To me, it seems like photochop goes to the hard drive too easy...

I concur, that is probably where I am losing speed.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: S. Williamson on July 21, 2007, 01:54:04 AM
Windows XP.

128 meg of RAM.

And it uses RAMBUS.   sad

I'm screwrd.  Thanks be to teh Almightee that I've got a new notebook.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Barbara on July 21, 2007, 09:09:59 AM
What were you doing on my computer???
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Iain on July 21, 2007, 12:59:18 PM
I've boasted about my free upgrade before, I'm presently running

AMD 6000+ dual core (ordered a 4800+ and got the 6000+ at no extra cost)
1gb 667mhz RAM (with shared graphics that drops to 883)

I'm using ubuntu. I've yet to really push anywhere near the ram limit.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 21, 2007, 01:58:43 PM
Shared graphics are the spawn of the Devil.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Nick1911 on July 21, 2007, 05:07:48 PM
Athlon 64 3000+
2Gb Ram
200gig mirrored disks
Cheap, no-name power supply
Cheap ATI 9550

It runs great for development.

My Database, web, backup (via Samba) server is a 133mhz Pentium box.  And it works fantastic for these roles.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Iain on July 22, 2007, 02:18:03 AM
Shared graphics are the spawn of the Devil.

Only if you play games. I have one installed, and that is based on the Quake 2 engine.
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 22, 2007, 06:22:31 AM
If I didn't play games, I'd probably also be using something like Ubuntu, like you are. As it stands, unless I want to piss around with Wine, or other programs, I need XP for my games.   
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: mountainclmbr on July 22, 2007, 07:12:38 PM
Apparently someone told Mike. Maybe it would be better to post on Democratic Underground, though I suspect Mike spends much time over there with his friends.  grin
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Brian Williams on July 23, 2007, 10:58:42 AM
Dell Optiplex, 500Mhz, 768m ram, 20gig HD, Windows XP...  Smokin'
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: RevDisk on July 23, 2007, 11:10:59 AM

My machine is middle of the road.  Not too fast, not too slow.  20.1" Widescreen WSXGA+ flat panel, 256 meg ATI Radeon X1800 graphics card, 150G on a RAID1, 7.1 surround sound with a sub, Core2 Duo 2.33GHz, two gigs of RAM. 

Oh yea.  Forgot to meantion, it's a laptop.    grin
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 24, 2007, 06:02:03 AM
Wow, a 20.1" screen Laptop?That thing must be huge.  shocked
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: wmenorr67 on July 24, 2007, 06:05:06 AM
and heavy
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: RevDisk on July 24, 2007, 10:55:13 AM
and heavy

18.3 lbs.   Roughly the same weight as a loaded SAW.  No biggie.   Very light compared to my old M82A1
Title: Re: sshhhhh - Nobody tell Mike...
Post by: Cromlech on July 26, 2007, 06:36:09 AM
I bet that thing has better one shot(whack) stopping power, too!  shocked