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I can has firing squad??
« on: July 11, 2008, 03:21:20 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380421,00.html

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Indonesia Executes Man Convicted of Killing 42 People in Ritual Slayings

Friday , July 11, 2008

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JAKARTA, Indonesia 
Indonesia executed a man convicted of killing 42 women and girls in a series of ritual slayings he believed would give him magical powers, his lawyer said Friday.

Ahmad Suradji, 57, was killed by firing squad late Thursday in western Indonesia despite a last minute appeal by Amnesty International, a U.K.-based human rights advocacy group that opposes capital punishment in all cases.

"He appeared resigned to his fate," said Attorney General Office's spokesman Bonaventura Nainggolan. "His final wish was to see his wife. We fulfilled this."

Suradji was arrested in May 1997 following the discovery of a body in a field close to this house in Lubukpakan, a village in North Sumatra province. Forty-one other corpses were later found nearby.

Police have said the victims came to Suradji because they believed he had supernatural powers. The victims were believed to have been seeking his help in making their husbands or boyfriends faithful, find a partner or get rich.

He lured them to the field and buried them up to the waist, telling them it was part of the ritual. He then strangled them and buried their bodies with the heads pointing toward his house.

He has told police he believed the 11-year killing spree would boost his magical powers.

Suradji's wife, Tumini, was also sentenced to death for assisting with the murders, but her sentence was later reduced to life in prison.

Belief in sorcery and the supernatural is common across Indonesia, especially in poor, rural areas where education levels are low.

Media reports said authorities were forced to cancel a plan to bury Suradji's body in a public cemetery because up to 100 relatives of his victims were waiting there, planning to disrupt the funeral.

As of Friday morning, his body remained at the morgue of a local hospital.

Indonesia resumed executions in June 2008 after a 14-month hiatus, when two Nigerians were put to death for drug trafficking.

Authorities do not release official statistics on the death penalty, but at least 112 people are known to be under death sentences in Indonesia. The time and place of executions are never made public before they occur.

According to Amnesty International, authorities are preparing to execute at least four other Indonesians. One of them is also a sorcerer, who was found guilty of killing 8 people. The other three are Islamic militants.










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Re: I can has firing squad??
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 03:23:07 PM »
If I was the official, I would have told the Amnesty International idiots that if they wished to stand in front of him, they could, but the squad would be firing anyway.

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Re: I can has firing squad??
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 03:27:50 PM »
If I was the official, I would have told the Amnesty International idiots that if they wished to stand in front of him, they could, but the squad would be firing anyway.

Definitely.

I'm really at a loss trying to understand these Amnesty International nutjobs.  We execute bad people because they are bad people, why the hell do these goofballs seem to think it's their business to stop that?   Seriously, who defends a convicted serial killer!!??

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 03:28:15 PM »
If I was the official, I would have told the Amnesty International idiots that if they wished to stand in front of him, they could, but the squad would be firing anyway.
Good idea. I can't express how much I hate Amnesty International. I was accosted more than one time by their minions of indoctrinated teens a few weeks back. The third time I was prepared to punch them for being stupid in public.

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 03:30:11 PM »
If I was the official, I would have told the Amnesty International idiots that if they wished to stand in front of him, they could, but the squad would be firing anyway.

Definitely.

I'm really at a loss trying to understand these Amnesty International nutjobs.  We execute bad people because they are bad people, why the hell do these goofballs seem to think it's their business to stop that?   Seriously, who defends a convicted serial killer!!??
Because of too much wishful thinking. Idiots who believe that everyone can be cured/rehabilitated. Heck, I think we need to execute MORE people. Starting with rapists. Abolishing the death penalty was the biggest mistake we ever did here. Especially when we decided treason wasn't reason enough for someone to expose their neck to the Madame Guillotine.

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Re: I can has firing squad??
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 03:35:39 PM »
The Viking, you truly need to move here, we need more good men like yourself.


Because of too much wishful thinking. Idiots who believe that everyone can be cured/rehabilitated. Heck, I think we need to execute MORE people. Starting with rapists. Abolishing the death penalty was the biggest mistake we ever did here. Especially when we abolished it for treason.

Were that the case, the entire staff of the New York Times would be laying in a bloody heap in Central Park....  (Which would be appropriate).

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 03:46:04 PM »
The Viking, you truly need to move here, we need more good men like yourself.


Because of too much wishful thinking. Idiots who believe that everyone can be cured/rehabilitated. Heck, I think we need to execute MORE people. Starting with rapists. Abolishing the death penalty was the biggest mistake we ever did here. Especially when we abolished it for treason.

Were that the case, the entire staff of the New York Times would be laying in a bloody heap in Central Park....  (Which would be appropriate).
Believe me, I'm trying to get over, but it's rather hard for someone with only high school to brag about. Going to change that though. Some way. Engineering has a certain appeal to me.

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Re: I can has firing squad??
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 04:14:55 PM »
Well, good on ya then.  Is there anything in that process we (APS) could do to help??   Couldn't you get a student visa or something? 

I'll admit being entirely ignorant in the subject of How People Become Americans. Unless they happen to be Mexicans.  that process involves only a short swim and some welfare applications.  angry 

Either way, too far for you to swim. cool

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 04:41:42 PM »
Well, good on ya then.  Is there anything in that process we (APS) could do to help??   Couldn't you get a student visa or something? 

I'll admit being entirely ignorant in the subject of How People Become Americans. Unless they happen to be Mexicans.  that process involves only a short swim and some welfare applications.  angry 

Either way, too far for you to swim. cool
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Re: I can has firing squad??
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 05:08:06 PM »
Well, when you do make it "over here", shoot me a PM and the Ammo and Booze is on me!

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Re: I can has firing squad??
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 05:27:30 PM »
Save up enough for a vacation in Cancun.  Get a good tan and come on up Wink
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 05:56:02 PM »
Save up enough for a vacation in Cancun.  Get a good tan and come on up Wink

or you could go that route.  Hasn't disuaded roughly 11-25 million illegals yet.

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 06:06:36 PM »
Save up enough for a vacation in Cancun.  Get a good tan and come on up Wink
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 06:39:33 PM »
Ouch, Green Card lottery's a pain unless you have relatives already in the States. Waiting for the inevitable amnesty bill and doing a bit of creative forging might just be faster.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 06:43:55 PM »
Ouch, Green Card lottery's a pain unless you have relatives already in the States. Waiting for the inevitable amnesty bill and doing a bit of creative forging might just be faster.
I feel that it would be rather rude to start my new life by violating your laws.

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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2008, 12:26:58 AM »
Ouch, Green Card lottery's a pain unless you have relatives already in the States. Waiting for the inevitable amnesty bill and doing a bit of creative forging might just be faster.
I feel that it would be rather rude to start my new life by violating your laws.

Shame 12+ million sorts from South of the Border had no such ethics.

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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 12:55:10 AM »
I fail to see why this person deserves to breathe air. This does not however translate to an endorsement of the death penalty for drug trafficking.
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 02:43:08 AM »
Thread title rules. 

Good for the Indonesians.

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2008, 08:37:44 AM »
Viking: can you find a willing American lass to "marry" you for a few years? Ironclad prenup and all that.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2008, 09:48:06 AM »
Viking: can you find a willing American lass to "marry" you for a few years? Ironclad prenup and all that.
Depending on the state it may not even have to be a lass....
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2008, 11:52:49 AM »
Viking: can you find a willing American lass to "marry" you for a few years? Ironclad prenup and all that.
Depending on the state it may not even have to be a lass....
 cheesy

Under DOMA the US doesn't accept gay marriage for this purpose. I think.
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Re: I can has firing squad??
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2008, 06:38:50 PM »
Viking: can you find a willing American lass to "marry" you for a few years? Ironclad prenup and all that.
Depending on the state it may not even have to be a lass....
 cheesy

Under DOMA the US doesn't accept gay marriage for this purpose. I think.

Give it time.
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