Honduran Caravans Start Up Again

[Ben]

Hondurans are forming caravans to once again, drive through other countries and demand entry into the US. It will be interesting to see how 46 handles it given the CCP virus. Besides the illegal alien issue, if they are let in, no one anywhere should follow any of the pandemic isolation rules.

I wonder if Mexico will try to stop them in the name of the virus.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/honduran-migrant-caravan-heading-to-us-could-be-early-test-for-biden-reports

[WLJ]

Biden: Come my little democrats, we have free cookies

[Ron]

National suicide by libertarian border policy.

[K Frame]

"Besides the illegal alien issue, if they are let in, no one anywhere should follow any of the pandemic isolation rules."

How dare you, you racist! Everyone knows that liberal political gatherings cure people of the Kung Flu, while only conservatives spread it!

[WLJ]

 I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they're put at the front of the line for the vaccine, in fact I'm expecting it.

[zxcvbob]

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they're put at the front of the line for the vaccine, in fact I'm expecting it.

As guinea pigs? :)

[WLJ]

As guinea pigs? :)

It's perfectly safe and effective as of the morning of Nov 4th unlike that Trump version.

[TommyGunn]

National suicide by libertarian socialist border policy.

FIFY.     

[charby]

FIFY.     

Nope, Ron had it right. A true libertarian would want open borders where as a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.   

[WLJ]

a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.  

Out? They won't be coming. There's a reason most guard tower machine guns face inward in socialist countries

[Ben]

Nope, Ron had it right. A true libertarian would want open borders where as a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.   

Keeping illegal aliens who go through zero Ellis Island types of background processing and medical evaluations out of the US is socialist? Interesting definition of socialism.

[charby]

Keeping illegal aliens who go through zero Ellis Island types of background processing and medical evaluations out of the US is socialist? Interesting definition of socialism.

That wouldn't be an open border, with an Ellis Island type model, the government can control who is allowed in and who isn't, hence no longer be an illegal alien.

[Ben]

That wouldn't be an open border, with an Ellis Island type model, the government can control who is allowed in and who isn't, hence no longer be an illegal alien.

That was my point, and it's not socialist - it's common sense.

[charby]

That was my point, and it's not socialist - it's common sense.

Nothing makes sense, groups pick and choose what they want to believe in. Instead of calling a leftist person a socialist or in Bernie's case calling himself a socialist, just say they have socialist leanings. Same with conservatives. Probably applies to most self claiming religious (Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc) people too.  

[TommyGunn]

Nope, Ron had it right. A true libertarian would want open borders where as a socialist would want a locked down border to keep citizens in and foreigners out.   

Actually,  Communists, socialists and Marxists  use walls to keep people in.  The Berlin Wall didn't keep West Germans out, it kept East Germans IN. 

And Biden is NOT a libertarian, anyway.

[charby]

Actually,  Communists, socialists and Marxists  use walls to keep people in.  The Berlin Wall didn't keep West Germans out, it kept East Germans IN. 

Once they are ruled by a despot, might take a couple years to go from utopia to dictator.

They don't want people to leave, don't want the real story getting out.

They also don't want people coming in and spreading seeds of discontent or having to support more mouths to feed.

And Biden is NOT a libertarian, anyway.

That's pretty obvious.

[K Frame]

"Once they are ruled by a despot, might take a couple years to go from utopia to dictator. "

Only took a couple of months for that to happen in Venezuela.

[dogmush]

Do we still have the cages?

[charby]

Do we still have the cages?

Cages are cool now, it's an Obama thing.

[Ron]

Actually,  Communists, socialists and Marxists  use walls to keep people in.  The Berlin Wall didn't keep West Germans out, it kept East Germans IN. 

And Biden is NOT a libertarian, anyway.

Open borders, unfettered immigration is a leftist position shared by Biden and libertarians.

[TommyGunn]

Open borders, unfettered immigration is a leftist position shared by Biden and libertarians.

   Yeeeup.

[Andiron]

National sovereignty was for chumps anyway... Diversity is our strength!

No way out but through gents.

[WLJ]

National sovereignty was for chumps anyway... Diversity is our strength!

No way out but through gents.

Yep, worked for Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia and The Soviet Union. They're still around right? Well pieces of them are.

[brimic]

National suicide by libertarian border policy.

I know, those damned libertarians in power do it every time.

[Ron]

I know, those damned libertarians in power do it every time.

Essentially zero space between the libertarian position and the leftist position on immigration.

Libertarians need to own it or change their mind, like this lifelong "classical liberal" changed his mind.

Ideological induced suicide is still suicide.