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Title: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: MillCreek on November 07, 2020, 12:25:56 PM
What will happen to Mr. Trump after the Presidency?  Will he reclaim his business empire and drive it to further heights?  Will he spend the next 10 years in depositions for all of the civil suits?  Will he declare bankruptcy again? Will any of the sexual assault allegations result in criminal charges?  Is there a divorce in the future?  I don't really see him becoming an elder statesman of the Republican party.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 07, 2020, 12:42:52 PM
The left will hound him until the day he dies.
He will be prosecuted and persecuted beyond anything we have ever seen.
His family and associates will be accorded the same fate.
He has to be made an example of what happens to people that dare to oppose the agenda.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: makattak on November 07, 2020, 12:43:33 PM
If they succeed in stealing this election through blatant and obvious voter fraud, he will run in 2024.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: MillCreek on November 07, 2020, 12:51:07 PM
I also don't see him retiring to a quiet life golfing out of the public eye.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: charby on November 07, 2020, 01:11:00 PM
He'll be treated by the left how the right has treated Hillary.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2020, 01:13:50 PM
He'll be treated by the left how the right has treated Hillary.

After the election and after the "jail her" ruckus had died down the right largely tried to ignore her but like a bad smell she kept coming back largely because she couldn't keep her mouth shut
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: grampster on November 07, 2020, 01:26:23 PM
After the election and after the "jail her" ruckus had died down the right largely tried to ignore her but like a bad smell she kept coming back largely because she couldn't keep her mouth shut

The Donald is very good at keeping his mouth shut.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2020, 01:30:52 PM
The Donald is very good at keeping his mouth shut.

In that he's probably going to be far worse than Hillary He's going to a torn in their ass for awhile
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: griz on November 07, 2020, 02:13:19 PM
If they succeed in stealing this election through blatant and obvious voter fraud, he will run in 2024.

I had no doubt that he would stick to the theme of the 2nd election being stolen from him (much like Hillary's failed attempt) but it honestly never crossed my mind that he would run again.  We'll see.  I can't see the R party supporting him, but I suppose there could be circumstances that would allow him to run, and win, as an independent.  Off hand, Biden ceding control of the office to Harris and her screwing up the vaccine and economic recovery comes to mind.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Ben on November 07, 2020, 02:24:28 PM

One of the really bad things about this to me is that it has emboldened not the democratic party, but the republican party. They sure showed that no good outsider a thing or two. I'm seeing very little disappointment from the establishment Rs. It's almost like they're happy things turned out this way as the "political club" can now get back to business.

And let this be a warning to anyone else that hasn't been a politician his entire career about what will happen to you if you insert yourself in the club. I guarantee that the next Republican candidate for President will be a milquetoast establishment empty suit.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: makattak on November 07, 2020, 02:30:08 PM
One of the really bad things about this to me is that it has emboldened not the democratic party, but the republican party. They sure showed that no good outsider a thing or two. I'm seeing very little disappointment from the establishment Rs. It's almost like they're happy things turned out this way as the "political club" can now get back to business.

And let this be a warning to anyone else that hasn't been a politician his entire career about what will happen to you if you insert yourself in the club. I guarantee that the next Republican candidate for President will be a milquetoast establishment empty suit.

If they succeed in helping the left steal the election, they can run anyone they want. I'll be voting for Trump. They can choose to have my vote or not.

(Note, this is coming from someone who didn't vote for him in 2016)
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: MillCreek on November 07, 2020, 02:52:18 PM
I guarantee that the next Republican candidate for President will be a milquetoast establishment empty suit.

Ben goes on record as predicting Romney for President, 2024!
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Ben on November 07, 2020, 04:29:47 PM
Ben goes on record as predicting Romney for President, 2024!

Not unlikely, or a clone of him. I might be predicting it, but I won't vote for whoever it is.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Ben on November 07, 2020, 06:24:08 PM
Speaking of Romney, of course he did...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/romney-is-first-gop-senator-to-congratulate-biden-on-winning-presidential-race

Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2020, 06:25:49 PM
Speaking of Romney, of course he did...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/romney-is-first-gop-senator-to-congratulate-biden-on-winning-presidential-race



With republicans like these who needs democrats?
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: TommyGunn on November 07, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
The Donald is very good at keeping his mouth shut.
:O
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: TommyGunn on November 07, 2020, 06:31:58 PM
I had no doubt that he would stick to the theme of the 2nd election being stolen from him (much like Hillary's failed attempt) but it honestly never crossed my mind that he would run again.  We'll see.  I can't see the R party supporting him, but I suppose there could be circumstances that would allow him to run, and win, as an independent.  Off hand, Biden ceding control of the office to Harris and her screwing up the vaccine and economic recovery comes to mind.
This.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: 230RN on November 07, 2020, 07:35:26 PM
My wishful thinking about it is that he becomes a passionate spokesperson for voting reform.

Although he ain't no Bloomberg dollar-wise, I would like to see him set up similar strategic situations in all the states... not unlike Bloomberg's anti-gun committees. Maybe with some contributory funding.  I myself would kick in a few shekels to make some progress toward "limiting democracy," if you will, to bona fide and qualified voting citizens.

And maybe dealing with such details as returning the selection of Senators to the individual States' legislatures.

Loaded with danger?

Yes, but look at the danger the constant "expanding" of the voting franchise has created.

I'm just hoping the "bully pulpit" created for him by this election does not go to waste.

I'm not signing this non-PC one so nobody will know who posted it.

Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: DittoHead on November 07, 2020, 09:16:23 PM
I can't see the R party supporting him, but I suppose there could be circumstances that would allow him to run, and win, as an independent. 
they can run anyone they want. I'll be voting for Trump. They can choose to have my vote or not.

If Trump runs as an independent, he might get more votes than whoever the republicans run but that's a guaranteed win for the democrats.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 07, 2020, 09:59:02 PM
With republicans like these who needs democrats?

Exactly.  The GOP is mostly corporatists and/or rino's, none of whom are on the side of the American ideal and principles.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: makattak on November 08, 2020, 07:31:57 AM
If Trump runs as an independent, he might get more votes than whoever the republicans run but that's a guaranteed win for the democrats.


I'm well aware of the caclulus. They should beware of it.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 08, 2020, 12:48:31 PM
Although he ain't no Bloomberg dollar-wise, I would like to see him set up similar strategic situations in all the states... not unlike Bloomberg's anti-gun committees. Maybe with some contributory funding.  I myself would kick in a few shekels to make some progress toward "limiting democracy," if you will, to bona fide and qualified voting citizens.

And maybe dealing with such details as returning the selection of Senators to the individual States' legislatures.

Loaded with danger?

Yes, but look at the danger the constant "expanding" of the voting franchise has created.

Bah. Humbug. The Dems have proven that they don't need to expand the voting franchise when all they need to do is print ballots.

What election reform needs is to return to the halcyon days of "one man, one vote."

First, get rid of early voting and mail-in ballots (except for legitimate absentee ballots). Those who want to vote can just haul their sorry asses to the voting location on election day.

Next, require photo ID to vote. And require photo ID and proof of citizenship as a prerequisite to register to vote.

And then, come up with a voting mechanism that can't be easily diddled. When I grew up in Connecticut, the entire state used old-fashioned mechanical voting machines. I remember one year when I was in grammar school during an election cycle the whole class walked across the street to town hall for a lesson in how the machines worked. My understanding is that Connecticut continued to use those machines until about 10 years (or so?) ago, when they were retired partially because they hadn't been produced for a very long time so repair parts weren't available, and there may have been a federal mandate to migrate to some form of electronic voting.

I trusted those old machines. I don't trust any of the more modern replacements/alternatives.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: 230RN on November 08, 2020, 02:31:01 PM
No bah humbug.  Nothing I said precludes anything you said. Just "progress toward."

My sore point (seems to be  yours, too) is to guarantee bona fide qualified voters.  

"Qualified" is subject to interpretation.  Used to be you had to read and speak English, but of course, that limitation limited "democracy.' 

So boo, hiss on that "qualification."

If someone wants to go that far again, it's OK with me, but I see the danger there as well, in terms of using subjective or "prejudicial" standards, etc.

But of course, once the bell has rung and the horses are out of the gate, all bets are off.  Nobody who might be disenfranchised would vote for that, therefore we've already gone past that "tipping point."

Hence that approach is moot.

Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 08, 2020, 05:09:14 PM
I'd be happy with limiting voting to actual legal citizens of the USA. One person, one vote with a valid free state issued (preferably photo) ID. Maybe we could model our voter ID off of a country like Mexico but the libtards might consider their method discriminatory against people of color.

Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Cliffh on November 08, 2020, 06:20:06 PM
The left will hound him until the day he dies.
He will be prosecuted and persecuted beyond anything we have ever seen.
His family and associates will be accorded the same fate.
He has to be made an example of what happens to people that dare to oppose the agenda.

This.

No one in his circle, or even in close proximity to it, will be safe.  I would not be surprised if the harassment became physical.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: MillCreek on November 13, 2020, 09:30:27 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/nyregion/trump-taxes.html

I will be interested to see if anything comes of this.  Mr. Trump could afford the best tax lawyers and accountants that money can buy. 
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Ben on November 13, 2020, 09:41:13 AM
Nothing will come of it. Both sides do this every time a president leaves. In this case, it will just cost Trump more money than previous presidents because of how deranged the left has been over the last four years. Perhaps Trump being Trump, he might be able to turn the tables on these idiots and sue them instead.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: cordex on November 13, 2020, 09:44:43 AM
I think that it is likely he'll follow in the shoes of Mr. Obama and seek an entertainment career.  How successful that career will be, I don't know.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: zxcvbob on November 13, 2020, 09:49:43 AM
He gets Secret Service protection for life.  I would love for them to shoot and kill a few idiots. 

That won't stop the malicious prosecutions, and I expect there will be calls to go after him for treason and seek the death penalty (mainly for not conceding the election immediately) but nothing will come of it.  Because if it does, if there is ever another Republican administration the Clintons and others will be toast.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 13, 2020, 09:54:14 AM
Nothing will come of it. Both sides do this every time a president leaves. In this case, it will just cost Trump more money than previous presidents because of how deranged the left has been over the last four years. Perhaps Trump being Trump, he might be able to turn the tables on these idiots and sue them instead.

I'm not so sure the left will follow precedent and leave Trump and company alone. Their hate for him and all things not Liberal could well push them to continue to persecute Trump and former administration people. I think they are so sure they will never have to deal with another Republican administration they don't worry about paybacks.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Ben on November 13, 2020, 10:43:31 AM
I'm not so sure the left will follow precedent and leave Trump and company alone.

I should clarify that I don't believe he will be left alone. Hence my statement that it will cost him more to defend himself. He'll be hounded more than any other previous President, but they won't win in court. It'll just be the equivalent of the crummy neighbor who instigates nuisance lawsuit after nuisance lawsuit.

I was hoping with Trump's legal team and his own personality, that he will turn the tables and maybe make the attackers the attacked. If a few of them end up paying out a few million dollars, the rest might eventually back off.

If Trump were prosecuted for ANYTHING while Hillary Clinton walks free, that's the line for a lot of people. The left better be careful what they wish for.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: MechAg94 on November 13, 2020, 11:43:27 AM
I'm not so sure the left will follow precedent and leave Trump and company alone. Their hate for him and all things not Liberal could well push them to continue to persecute Trump and former administration people. I think they are so sure they will never have to deal with another Republican administration they don't worry about paybacks.
Some leftists either can't or won't look forward to the consequences of their actions. 
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: 230RN on November 13, 2020, 12:19:00 PM
I'd be happy with limiting voting to actual legal citizens of the USA. One person, one vote with a valid free state issued (preferably photo) ID. Maybe we could model our voter ID off of a country like Mexico but the libtards might consider their method discriminatory against people of color.


I can't decide if that's a joke or not. I guess it is if you consider "white" as a color.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 13, 2020, 01:35:49 PM
I can't decide if that's a joke or not. I guess it is if you consider "white" as a color.

It just needs an 's' on the end. I think it was in grammar school that I was told white is the presence of all colors, and black is the complete absence of colors.
Title: Re: The post-Presidency Mr. Trump
Post by: zxcvbob on November 13, 2020, 02:11:13 PM
It just needs an 's' on the end. I think it was in grammar school that I was told white is the presence of all colors, and black is the complete absence of colors.

Depends whether you are mixing light or pigments (additive or subtractive colors)