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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: nice piece in wash time
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 10:17:09 PM »
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With that history, let’s begin debate about the prospects of black America in a different context, a great debate about where we’re going and how we’re going to get there.

While I know that there really is no such thing as color-blindness in America, I would think that those wanting to move their people forward would avoid the one thing certain to hold them back - laying claim to victim status.

You want economic progress?  Let's see how you can get into the economy as an equal player, 'cause if you insist on advantages over the rest of "us" then it just aint gonna happen.

You want educational progress?  Let's see how you can become involved as an equal consumer and provider of educational service, 'cause demanding that "we" give up what "we" have so you can have some part of it aint gonna help either of us.

As I see it the problem is not that blacks are black, but that blacks, via their most vocal  advocates, who say they want equality are actually insisting on preferential treatment.  Remember when Bill Cosby delivered this http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm ?  It seems that he has abandoned that position and now, along with NBPP, Rev. Al and Jessuh merely want to dip into my pocket instead of working up their own sweat and earning their own pocketful of goodies.  I am totally opposed to policies and behaviors that intentionally hold any group back, but I am also totally opposed to any policies and behaviors that try to give unfair advantage to those who are not currently being oppressed as recompense (??) for past oppression of those that came before them.

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Re: nice piece in wash time
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 07:34:19 AM »
I am a community college teacher in Detroit. Usually, I am the only white in the classroom. Occasionally a student student will exclaim something like, "You know how Black people are!"

I just zip my lips to show that I have nothing to say about the subject and then gesture that they are free to continue to discuss of the subject.  I then hear talk that would get me fired if it came out of my mouth. Many of them are very aware of where the problems lie. They just don't want to hear it out of white faces.

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Re: nice piece in wash time
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 08:01:33 AM »
I am a community college teacher in Detroit. Usually, I am the only white in the classroom. Occasionally a student student will exclaim something like, "You know how Black people are!"


When I lived in the barracks at Fort Hood, I had a black/white roommate for a while. About every other day, he would give me an exasperated look, and declare, "Man, I hate black people!" This was usual response to whatever his black friends were up to at the moment.

(He was kidding, of course.)
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Re: nice piece in wash time
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 08:23:34 AM »
Went to the linked article in the OP and noted who was on the panel. We all know who Al Sharpton is, but the panel also included "Julianne Malveaux, educator and remarkable economist."

That description does a disservice to readers; Julianne Malveaux is the hate-filled harridan who said on national TV that she hoped Clarence Thomas' wife would feed him a lot of unhealthy food so he would die young of a heart attack like so many black men.

It seems he wasn't her type of black man.
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Re: nice piece in wash time
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 08:34:35 AM »
Blacks are being kept on a new plantation.  They are kept slaves to the government dole for thier (D) votes and for thier willingness to create division and unrest.
The sooner they realize the only thing that can free them is economic prosperity and independence, the better. 
I have no faith, however, that time will come.
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Re: nice piece in wash time
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 08:41:24 AM »
Blacks are being kept on a new plantation.  They are kept slaves to the government dole for thier (D) votes and for thier willingness to create division and unrest.
The sooner they realize the only thing that can free them is economic prosperity and independence, the better. 
I have no faith, however, that time will come.

Black Americans, as a whole, were extremely self-reliant prior to the 1960's "War on Poverty" (aside: It's been going on for nearly 50 years. Isn't it time to declare a loss and bring our troops home!!111!!).

It took 50 years of perverse incentives to get to this point. It will likely take as long to reverse those incentives. (And, this goes for the decrease in self-reliance in White Americans as well.) IF this country survives, I have faith that the day will come again where all Americans-- White, Black, Red, Yellow, Brown-- rely on themselves and their community and not the government.

It's a simply matter: what cannot go on forever must come to an end. The money is going to run out and all Americans will learn that you cannot rely on the government. It is simply a matter of how hard the lesson will be.
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