Clearances pulled for Secret Service Agents

[TommyGunn]

How is this different from the stuff Navy sailors do when on shore leave in Bankgok?

Or is there some kind of NO PROSTITUTES rule for the Secret Service?

Navy sailors don't have access to the POTUS's schedule and secure communications and weapons, and other top secret stuff.  They also generally don't have TS security clearances. 
But hey, who's worrying?

Maybe we should put the Man From U.N.C.L.E. in charge of POTUS security.  I seem to recall he was a big hit with all the ladies ........

[roo_ster]

Apparently a much bigger issue is that there were uncleared people in controlled areas, which is a HUGE no no.

They damned well should lose their clearances over that.

In fact, I wouldn't have any heart burn if some of them faced criminal charges.

This.  WAY too many gobermint types think security rules are just for non-goobermint types.

Why? It seems bizarre that the military would become more puritanical in this day and age.

Today's US Military is the worst combination of lefty neo-stalinist pieties & social engineering, righty blue-nose busy-body meddling, and bureacareerist maleficence.  My unit had less of that than most and filled the void with psychotic levels of motivation(1).  FTR, I'll take psychotic motivation over the lefty & righty vice grip of social engineering prohibitionists every day of the week.

I could not, in good conscience, advise someone to make a career of it.  At most: one or two enlistments for the latrine-cleaners, O-3 & out for the ossifers.






(1) Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket was viewed without any sense of irony and a source of inspiration.  "I wish Private Pyle had kept his cool.  He was finally squared away," is a comment I recall from one buddy in the barracks, straight-up.

[RoadKingLarry]

Navy sailors don't have access to the POTUS's schedule and secure communications and weapons, and other top secret stuff.  They also generally don't have TS security clearances. 
But hey, who's worrying?

Maybe we should put the Man From U.N.C.L.E. in charge of POTUS security.  I seem to recall he was a big hit with all the ladies ........

Clearance levels would depend on the type of ship. Fast Attack Subs generally had(have?) a high number of people with at least a secret clearance, cooks being about the only exception and roughly 15-20% of enlisted having a TS/SCI (radio, SONAR, ESM,) level and all the O-gang being TS/SCI. Not to mention PRP.

[French G.]

The military prohibition has nothing to do with being puritanical, it is a recognition that the vast majority of sex workers are coerced, illegally trafficked, and/or imprisoned and we ought not support that. Reasonable I'd think.

Not the real issue with the Treasury guys. So you're protecting world target #1 but you're going to consort with questionable levels of society and possibly compromise who knows what about your team and schedules. Good one. Makes me think we ought to have security cleared single girls to travel with them so we know what they are into.

Also, another vote for this is probably standard routine. I've traveled with the military, we are pretty mild, confined mostly to wrecking rental cars, strip clubs and lots of beer. But it's a culture. You're traveling as a group, already overpaid by local standards, getting per diem on top of it, and bored with time on your hands. Having known people from the Blue Angels I'm shocked they only crash a plane every couple years. Quality maintenance on those jets is probably not nearly as important as who gets the best rental car in each town. Party, fly, repeat.

[Perd Hapley]

Micro,

For anybody with access to national defense secrets or access to, say, the President of the United States, hanky-panky has long been recognized as a concern. Stuff like that can be used for blackmail.

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

the vast majority of sex workers are coerced, illegally trafficked, and/or imprisoned

Not actually the case. Most go into it because it is often the highest-paying job for unskilled labor.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/20/government-trafficking-enquiry-fails

[MicroBalrog]

Not actually the case. Most go into it because it is often the highest-paying job for unskilled labor.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/20/government-trafficking-enquiry-fails

Epic win.

But I'm not sure this applies in Colombia, sadly. It being Colombia.

[roo_ster]

Epic win.

But I'm not sure this applies in Colombia, sadly. It being Colombia.

Not sure I'd classify it as such.  "Our prospects are so bad that prostitution is the best we can do," is hardly WIN material in my book.

[MicroBalrog]

Not sure I'd classify it as such.  "Our prospects are so bad that prostitution is the best we can do," is hardly WIN material in my book.

"Even in the horrible circumstances of prohibition, most prostitutes are not actually slaves. Screw yourself, prohibitionist scum." is win in my book.

[Ron]

Here is the Wiki article on prostitution in Columbia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Colombia

The rules apply even when it involves sex. These guys broke the rules and fed the coffers of human traffickers and those who pimp out children.

This wasn't just a fun night in Vegas.

[roo_ster]

"Even in the horrible circumstances of prohibition, most prostitutes are not actually slaves. Screw yourself, prohibitionist scum." is win in my book.

Well, yeah, we can agree on the latter.

[T.O.M.]

I've been down to Columbia a couple of times.  Back when I wore BDU's for Uncle Sam, and then when I got involved with prosecuting drug trafficking cases on an "educational trip."  It's a scary place.  Not the kind of place where I'd want to be in the least bit drunk, or be caught with my pants down.

I saw the hookers on the streets of Cartegena and Bogata, and I saw the little girls in cute dresses all made up and ready for the right price paid to the madame sitting behind them.  Disgusting.  On just about every corner, there were armed troops, and the worry was always which ones were loyal to which side.

Of all the places on the planet for guys in their line of work to cut loose, drop their pants, and party down, this would be one of teh places I'd least expect it.

[MillCreek]

My BIL sells metrology equipment for Fluke and goes to Columbia a couple of times a year, almost always to Bogota.  He says that Bogota has really improved from a personal safety/narco terrorism standpoint.  They apparently no longer have the bombings and judge assassinations and what not.

[roo_ster]

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/141115/

“In case you haven’t heard, the Secret Service is keeping an eye on Ted Nugent. The other eye is scanning for hookers.”

[MicroBalrog]

The Secret Service: Now cocaine.

[Viking]

My BIL sells metrology equipment for Fluke and goes to Columbia a couple of times a year, almost always to Bogota.  He says that Bogota has really improved from a personal safety/narco terrorism standpoint.  They apparently no longer have the bombings and judge assassinations and what not.

Only because they ran out of judges and explosives...

[41magsnub]

My hunting buddy's son is marrying a Columbian girl with the wedding down there next month.  I'll remind him to pay the $47.   

[TechMan]

Here are pictures of the escort that blew the whistle on the Secret Service Agents.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/secret-service-colombian-hooker-scandal-escort-explosive-scandal-article-1.1064287

[birdman]

Here are pictures of the escort that blew the whistle on the Secret Service Agents.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/secret-service-colombian-hooker-scandal-escort-explosive-scandal-article-1.1064287

Thank god.  This would have been much worse if she was an uggo.

[roo_ster]

The Secret Service: Now cocaine.

Do they now prefer Miles Davis to be playing while boinking hookers?(1)




(1) I re-read that and realized it might be ambiguous.  But, given what I read about Miles Davis, it works either way.

[Gewehr98]

As anybody who's every undergone a government polygraph test for their security access will tell you, the moment you can be blackmailed for your activities as a representative of the United States Government, that's pretty much the last moment you'll be be representin'...

Says they only paid her $28 for $800 worth of services.  I don't know if she's got anything worth $800, but they should've paid to avoid the considerably more expensive backlash to their organization and individual careers, IMHO.

Next employment opportunity - WalMart greeter?  

[Tallpine]

She doesn't quite look worth $800 

Can't you do way better than that in Nevada 

[MillCreek]

She doesn't quite look worth $800 

Can't you do way better than that in Nevada 

I imagine she looked quite a lot better in low lighting and with alcohol on board.

[drewtam]

Malory Archer       ISIS isn't your own personal travel agency! It doesn't exist just so you can jet off to... whore island!
Sterling Archer       That's not... a real place.
Malory Archer       I have 50 agents who'd literally kill to move up to your position. And if you don't square your operations account by Monday, they won't need to. Your position will be vacant. Sterling!
Sterling Archer       Sorry, I was picturing whore island.

[Scout26]

She doesn't quite look worth $800 

Can't you do way better than that in Nevada 

You have to be in Nevada first.....