Author Topic: This may leave a mark - police have no duty to protect individual not absolute  (Read 1102 times)

vaskidmark

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http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51031

A link to the case via The Volockh Conspiracy (which seems to be wonky this morning (8/12) and an analysis

Discussion at CalGuns http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=14645326

Getting to the actual decision seems problematic this morning (8/12).  Maybe later?

Basic facts - Vaugh picked up a stick to protect himself.  Police told him to drop the stick.  Guy Vaughn was seeking to protect himself from hit Vaughn on the head with a metal baseball bat.  Vaughn died.  Oh, yeah - police did not tell baseball bat guy to put it down.  IMHO the details pretty much suggest several pooches have been screwed.

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<insert any name> vs Chicago PD
Chicago PD has a history of losing.

must be a reason
What we have here is failure to communicate.

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But hey, at least the cops all got to go home safe at the end of their shift.
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Wouldn't police have been justified shooting the baseball bat guy?  What were they doing?
This might be interesting to read further. 
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Wouldn't police have been justified shooting the baseball bat guy?  What were they doing?
This might be interesting to read further. 

If they did that, they wouldn't get to watch a good beatdown.  (seriously, I think that's it)
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