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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on June 26, 2011, 07:17:24 PM
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The response from TSA on this one should be interesting...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/26/dying-woman-undergoes-additional-tsa-security-screening-says-family/
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well she could be a suicide bomber you know not much to live for at that age
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The funny thing is that they let her on the plane.
If they really thought she had a bomb in her pants, they would not let her on the plane. To do so would be negligent. If they find an actual stick of dynamite on somebody, they don't just tell them to go dispose of it and come get back in line. And if the confiscate explosives, or something that they *actually* think are explosives, they don't just put them in the bin; they would call the bomb squad or something. So when they claim to suspect that a kid's baby bottle or someone's adult diaper or some play-doh is explosives, but they confiscate the items and let the person get on the plane anyway, they are admitting that they know the items are harmless. At any rate, they are all traitors and should be reviled, every one of them (TSA).
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At any rate, they are all traitors and should be reviled, every one of them (TSA
blanket rhetoric and bombast much?
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Oh, I forgot. The threat of ninja terrorists that will sneak in a pair of knives in an old lady's wheelchair is too much.
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never happens
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/jail-21994-bound-weapons.html
ever
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Gun-Hidden-in-Teddy-Bear-at-DFW-79355102.html
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never happens
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/jail-21994-bound-weapons.html
ever
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Gun-Hidden-in-Teddy-Bear-at-DFW-79355102.html
Kiel Percival Cassiano, 24,
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http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Gun-Hidden-in-Teddy-Bear-at-DFW-79355102.html
Do tell me how this ninja was going to get to the plane's cargo hold, unsheathe the pistol, climb back to the aircraft and take over the plane.
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ever ever
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-02-25/world/iraq.main_1_karbala-pilgrims-suicide-bomber?_s=PM:WORLD
http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2008/02/bomb-under-a-wheelchair/index.shtml
or even use the person in the chair without their knowledge
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/26/world/fg-iraq26
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Do tell me how this ninja was going to get to the plane's cargo hold, unsheathe the pistol, climb back to the aircraft and take over the plane.
not sure how it works there but here once you get through the check point you can wander for hours in the "secure area and not be serached again
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If they want to "turn" the American people all they need to do is to keep up what they're doing.
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not sure how it works there but here once you get through the check point you can wander for hours in the "secure area and not be serached again
Unless you're a 95 year old woman in a diaper and a wheelchair.
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not sure how it works there but here once you get through the check point you can wander for hours in the "secure area and not be serached again
Nowhere in the US can you get to your checked baggage after going through the security checkpoint. Unless he's Arnold reenacting the beginning of Commando, once he checked that bag it was out of his hands for the flight.
So answer MB's question. How was that 9mm a threat to anyone on board the aircraft?
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i thought we were talking about the wheelchair and any weapons in it? we take my dads wife she stays in her chair till we go down the jetway they take it planeside and it goes in the baggage compartment
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No, we are not. The controversy has nothing to do with the woman hiding weapons in her wheelchair.
The controversy is about a 95-year-old woman being forced to remove an adult diaper because a pat-down revealed a 'hard object that could have been used as a weapon' inside the diaper.
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i thought we were talking about the wheelchair and any weapons in it?
Wait a minute! YOU are the one that supplied the link to the Teddy Bear Ninja Assassin. Now you're backpedaling and protesting that we're talking about it instead of the diapered wheelchair granny?
What the hell are you drinking?? ???
DD
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Explain to me, please, how searching the woman's diaper has anything to do with any weapons in the wheelchair?
Do you think that a diaper is somehow the same as a wheelchair?
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Wait a minute! YOU are the one that supplied the link to the Teddy Bear Ninja Assassin. Now you're backpedaling and protesting that we're talking about it instead of the diapered wheelchair granny?
What the hell are you drinking?? ???
DD
me? nothin in 19 years. in fact that enabled me to read the whole article. up to and including where it mentioned the guy smuggling guns in his chair. ymmv
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The funny thing is that they let her on the plane.
After they stripped her of the offending diaper.
Reading is fudamental. :P
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me? nothin in 19 years. in fact that enabled me to read the whole article. up to and including where it mentioned the guy smuggling guns in his chair. ymmv
Which has zero to do with this story, other than the fact that if TSA profiled (or didn't exist), she likely would not have had to endure this. A 24 year old suspicious looking guy in a wheelchair is not the same as a 95 year old disabled woman in a wheelchair. Neither is a 6 year old girl from Kansas getting patted down similar to a suspicious looking man of Middle Eastern descent getting patted down.
If you think the terrorists are smart enough to plan an elaborate wheelchair smuggling ruse involving some white bread family in silly green hats, you're giving them way too much credit. I don't like the concept of TSA one bit, but I know there are trained TSA personnel out there. This is simply a case of inappropriately trained and incompetent TSA personnel, which is what you get when you advertise for employees on the back of pizza boxes.
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If you think the terrorists are smart enough to plan an elaborate wheelchair smuggling ruse involving some white bread family in silly green hats, you're giving them way too much credit. I don't like the concept of TSA one bit, but I know there are trained TSA personnel out there. [citation needed]This is simply a case of inappropriately trained and incompetent TSA personnel, which is what you get when you advertise for employees on the back of pizza boxes.
FIFY
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FIFY
:lol:
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At any rate, they are all traitors and should be reviled, every one of them (TSA
blanket rhetoric and bombast much?
They deserve such treatment and most definitely are using the COTUS as toilet paper.
I will not willingly associate with any TSA employee and urge others to do the same. I fully support the use of every legal social sanction against them, as well as every possible legal means to send that agency down in flames and make its employees quit their evil ways.
“It was tough to say goodbye after all of that,” Weber said. “But she’s at peace, and she’s a good Christian woman. They’ll be waiting for her up there in Heaven.”
And they'll be waiting for TSA Kiddie Groper Goons in Hell. The special Hell.
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At any rate, they are all traitors and should be reviled, every one of them (TSA
blanket rhetoric and bombast much?
At some point the secret police always turn on the populace. Its not a stretch from searching diapers and fondling 4 year olds to siezing dissenters off the street in the middle of the night. Your statisim is fail, old man.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/270533/tsa-obergropinfuhrer-day-mark-steyn
TSA Obergropinfuhrer of the Day
There is a term for regimes that submit law-abiding wheelchair-bound dying nonagenarians to public humiliations without probable cause and it isn’t “republic of limited government.” Given everybody’s touchiness over Kathryn’s North Korean comparisons, I’ll say only this: George III wouldn’t have done this to you.
Amy Alkon posts a response from a bureaucratic bozo to her own experience at the airport. Caution for sensitive types: The word “labia” is included. But that’s because in 21st century America the anatomical feature “labia” are included in a trip to the airport – and that’s what should concern you. As the crack TSA agent informs Miss Alkon, “We go thru sensitive areas with back of hand.”
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TSA is quickly closing in on the waffen BATFEces in the douchebaggery department. :mad:
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thye made her remove a wet depends so they could search her ? and thats got you all twisted? i'm more upset that her daughter didn't have a dry one available for her to change into and i think thats what got the daughter all dramatic. mom was calm then and now
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I'm still waiting to know what do all those links to weapons seized from inside people's wheelchairs have to do with removing a woman's diaper, wet or otherwise.
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whats your experience with diapers? i ask cringing... >:D
when they get wet they change create a solid mass. i can see worrying over that. i can also say that daughter sending mom to sit in a wet diaper on a flight to milwaukee has failed to care for mom.
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whats your experience with diapers? i ask cringing... >:D
when they get wet they change create a solid mass. i can see worrying over that. i can also say that daughter sending mom to sit in a wet diaper on a flight to milwaukee has failed to care for mom.
Even if true, that isn't the point, is it?
TSA is way the hell out of line and anyone trying to rationalize their nonsense away should be considered with the same contempt.
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We are doing it backwards.
All pre-board passengers should be screened in the waiting lounge. All who are U.S. military veterans, LEOs, NRA members, IPSC or IDPA competitors, and/or holders of a concealed carry permit from any state in the U.S. should be issued a standard Air Marshal semi-automatic pistol, fully loaded and with one spare (loaded) magazine.
I don't think the box cutter brigade would even venture a try. Pistol and ammo to be turned in upon disembarking at the point of arrival.
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whats your experience with diapers? i ask cringing... >:D
when they get wet they change create a solid mass. i can see worrying over that. i can also say that daughter sending mom to sit in a wet diaper on a flight to milwaukee has failed to care for mom.
So I take it we've abandoned the idea that this is somehow justified by the notion of weapons being hidden in the wheelchair.
I say this is progress.
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thye made her remove a wet depends so they could search her ? and thats got you all twisted? i'm more upset that her daughter didn't have a dry one available for her to change into and i think thats what got the daughter all dramatic. mom was calm then and now
whats your experience with diapers? i ask cringing... >:D
when they get wet they change create a solid mass. i can see worrying over that. i can also say that daughter sending mom to sit in a wet diaper on a flight to milwaukee has failed to care for mom.
Before you go slandering the daughter perhaps you can point out which article stated that the garment in question was wet.
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http://www.pjstar.com/free/x977394396/Elderly-woman-has-to-remove-diaper-for-pat-down
this one
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http://www.pjstar.com/free/x977394396/Elderly-woman-has-to-remove-diaper-for-pat-down
this one
And suddenly the story gets a whole lot less interesting.
So the lady had a swollen diaper, and had to remove it (privately) and then go back through screening . . .
This isn't as bad as it was originally made to sound.
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And suddenly the story gets a whole lot less interesting.
So the lady had a swollen diaper, and had to remove it (privately) and then go back through screening . . .
This isn't as bad as it was originally made to sound.
funny that. and its the daughters own testimony
it would border on abuse too leave momma in a wet diaper for the flight to milwaukee. were she a nurses aid and did that it would be abuse and potentially carried real consequences for mommas health. sore don't heal well at 95
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Is the scanner a replacement to a regular metal detector and explosives test, or in addition to the above?
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We are doing it backwards.
All pre-board passengers should be screened in the waiting lounge. All who are U.S. military veterans, LEOs, NRA members, IPSC or IDPA competitors, and/or holders of a concealed carry permit from any state in the U.S. should be issued a standard Air Marshal semi-automatic pistol, fully loaded and with one spare (loaded) magazine.
I don't think the box cutter brigade would even venture a try. Pistol and ammo to be turned in upon disembarking at the point of arrival.
I would be tempted to use it on TSA. And I can tell you not all U.S. Military Veterans have ever shot a pistol.
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I would be tempted to use it on TSA. And I can tell you not all U.S. Military Veterans have ever shot a pistol.
Most TSA goons I have seen don't look like they'd run too fast.
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How does it make the second story less interesting? It makes it more interesting to me. They still made a 95 year old disabled woman (not a Nigerian man) remove her diaper, and now we also see that they then tagged her daughter (who they by now knew) for extra screening because she was crying.
Crying at an airport? Why that's unheard of!
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they then tagged her daughter (who they by now knew) for extra screening because she was crying.
THAT would be application of the "israeli methods" so many , who have never known them, are enamored of.
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they then tagged her daughter (who they by now knew) for extra screening because she was crying.
THAT would be application of the "israeli methods" so many , who have never known them, are enamored of.
No it wouldn't. She wasn't crying until after she ran into the TSA.
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again using the daughters own words her crying triggered additional security checks for her
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again using the daughters own words her crying triggered additional security checks for her
And you again prove my point. Thanks! :)
I would have never thought that in my lifetime there would come a day when a crying person, instead of comforted, would be targeted as a threat.
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being upset will get you extra scrutiny
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being upset will get you extra scrutiny
I...
I don't know where to start with that statement.
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being upset will get you extra scrutiny
I KNEW there was a reason TSA gropes so many small children! :facepalm:
DD
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How does it make the second story less interesting? It makes it more interesting to me. They still made a 95 year old disabled woman (not a Nigerian man) remove her diaper, and now we also see that they then tagged her daughter (who they by now knew) for extra screening because she was crying.
Crying at an airport? Why that's unheard of!
Yeah, I was wondering that, too.
they then tagged her daughter (who they by now knew) for extra screening because she was crying.
THAT would be application of the "israeli methods" so many , who have never known them, are enamored of.
Uh, no. That is the method used by dumbass psychologists who write diagnostic manuals that that find "proof" of child molestation if, when questioned and presented with an anatomically correct doll:
1. Determine the child has been molested if they are quiet and reticent to talk about the alleged incident and not comfortable handling a doll with dangly bits, because they have been horrified and scared into non-communication.
2. Determine the child has been molested if they are talkative and show no bother at handling dolls with dangly bits because they have been conditioned by the pedophile to think that talking, touch, and looking at dangly bits with strange adults is fine & dandy.
I...
I don't know where to start with that statement.
It is pretty easy: violate and outrage folks until they are angry or upset and then give them more of the same because your handbook (written by the same damnfool folks who wrote the "heads I win, tails you lose" diagnoses for molested children) says that the *expletive deleted*ing proles need to shut the *expletive deleted*ck up and take what's coming to them anger and distress at the checkpoint are clues that someone is a American a terrorist.
I KNEW there was a reason TSA gropes so many small children! :facepalm:
DD
They are looking to get a rise out of the parents while they get a rise themselves.
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we will interrupt the rants and auto-erotic fantasy for a reality check, once again furnished by the daughter
http://americaisindanger.blogspot.com/2011/06/tsa-denies-having-required-95-year-old.html
The woman's daughter, Jean Weber, told CNN on Monday that the TSA agents acted professionally and never ordered the removal of her mother's diaper. However, Weber said the agents made it clear that her mother could not board the plane unless they were able to inspect the diaper.
According to Weber, it was her idea to remove the diaper so it could be inspected and they could make their flight.
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However, Weber said the agents made it clear that her mother could not board the plane unless they were able to inspect the diaper.
And yet again you quote, yet miss, the salient point that the rest of us are talking about.
Sometimes it's like Bizarro world.
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However, Weber said the agents made it clear that her mother could not board the plane unless they were able to inspect the diaper.
:facepalm: .......just........ :facepalm:
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the agents made it clear that her mother could not board the plane unless they were able to inspect the diaper.
Well, I guess there could have been a "bomb" in the diaper =D
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"I'm not forcing you to take off your pants. But, you can not board your plane unless I can see and palpitate your underoos."
Yossarian: Is Orr crazy?
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