Afghanistan

[Angel Eyes]

[grampster]

https://www.factinate.com/editorial/alexander-the-great-afghanistan

[Angel Eyes]

https://www.factinate.com/editorial/alexander-the-great-afghanistan

“When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,

And the women come out to cut up what remains,

Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains

An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.”

                - Rudyard Kipling

[TommyGunn]

Sad but there is truth there ..... 

[Ben]

Sad but there is truth there ..... 

Not so sad if you apply it to what Biden and Swalwell say about Americans...

[TommyGunn]

Not so sad if you apply it to what Biden and Swalwell say about Americans...

Yea, I got that part. 

However,  I wonder if we have the unrelenting relentlessness  the jihadis have .... or are there just too many couch potatoes..... ? ?   

[RoadKingLarry]

Not so sad if you apply it to what Biden and Swalwell say about Americans...

I suspect that if it actually came to shooting fight on US soil our government would not pull on the kid gloves and implement the libtard ROEs we saw in the ME. They would go scorched earth from the get go.

[Ron]

Plus, we live in a panopticon where anyone can be easily tracked down and ...

[MechAg94]

I suspect that if it actually came to shooting fight on US soil our government would not pull on the kid gloves and implement the libtard ROEs we saw in the ME. They would go scorched earth from the get go.

Yes.  We just have to see the signs in the rhetoric of the leftists.  There are few limits to what they are willing to do (or order other people to do).  (fascists are leftists)

[dogmush]

True enough.

I didn't say it in my post, but for me, part of it was watching utter goofballs in those (and other) videos looking like the keystone cops of armies. Yet somehow they have held back, waited out, and kicked out professional soldiers, from us, to the USSR, to countless others over a thousand years. It's a bizarre dichotomy to me.

In what way did the Taliban hold back, wait out, or kick out the professional (NATO) soldiers of Resolute Support? Or ISAF?

They didn't hold back or kick out anyone.  They hid in Pakistan and the Mideast. And the only people the waited out we're the mercurial politicians in the US.

Let's not buy in to the Taliban's own narrative that they pushed out the imperialists or some *expletive deleted*it.

[WLJ]

From somewhere in Pelosiverse

    The President is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and his action. The Taliban must know the world is watching its actions. We are concerned about reports regarding the Taliban’s brutal treatment of all Afghans, especially women and girls.

    — Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) August 15, 2021

[Ben]

They didn't hold back or kick out anyone.  They hid in Pakistan and the Mideast. And the only people the waited out we're the mercurial politicians in the US.

Didn't they basically wait us out here? Professional soldiers left and the Taliban seem to have come out of the woodwork and spread like locusts. I only have the news to form my viewpoint, but that's what I'm seeing.

[Ben]

Interesting take from John Lovell, who has BTDT as a Ranger:

https://youtu.be/KcbdkxT0GOU

[dogmush]

Didn't they basically wait us out here? Professional soldiers left and the Taliban seem to have come out of the woodwork and spread like locusts. I only have the news to form my viewpoint, but that's what I'm seeing.

That was my point, and perhaps I'm being overly  sensitive.  The professionals left because they were told to. The Taliban didn't out wait the professionals,  they waited out the politicians in the states, who are decidedly not professional.

It's also summer, which is fighting season in Afghanistan,  so they would have come out anyway,  we just weren't there to keep them penned up in the hinterlands.

[Ben]

That was my point, and perhaps I'm being overly  sensitive.  The professionals left because they were told to. The Taliban didn't out wait the professionals,  they waited out the politicians in the states, who are decidedly not professional.

No, sorry that I wasn't clear. That's what I meant, and I guess my point as well. 

While our soldiers were there, things were at least somewhat in hand, at least as much as the ever changing ROEs would allow. Politicians sent the soldiers there, and politicians pulled them out, in this case in a piss poor manner, so there was no one left to keep the locals from doing their thing.

[MechAg94]

Someone pointed out in one of the Taliban pictures showing a few of them holding their rifles with trigger fingers indexed outside the trigger guard.  The commenter assumed they were trained by by the US. 

[kgbsquirrel]

Someone pointed out in one of the Taliban pictures showing a few of them holding their rifles with trigger fingers indexed outside the trigger guard.  The commenter assumed they were trained by by the US.

Trigger discipline and manual of arms are big indicators that we taught them.

So apparently a couple months ago the illegitimate administration shut down a rapid civil evacuation program that the dept of state had, allegedly simply because Trump instituted it.  Sure would have been useful.

[Jim147]

British paratroopers and special forces out of Spain are going into the city getting their people out. 82nd airborne is sitting at the airport waiting for orders that probably won't come at this point. What a crap administration.

[dogmush]

British paratroopers and special forces out of Spain are going into the city getting their people out. 82nd airborne is sitting at the airport waiting for orders that probably won't come at this point. What a crap administration.

Do you have a public source for that?

[Hawkmoon]

So apparently a couple months ago the illegitimate administration shut down a rapid civil evacuation program that the dept of state had, allegedly simply because Trump instituted it.  Sure would have been useful.

I just logged on to post about that:

https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/bidens-state-dept-halted-trump-era-crisis-response-plan/

[Boomhauer]

[Ben]

 

That's perfect!

[Ben]

Apparently Biden said he's not sleeping well and needs to go back to Delaware.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/18/is-president-biden-flying-back-to-delaware-for-another-long-weekend/

[Jim147]

Do you have a public source for that?

I've changed locations but it was a British news.

I'll find it when I get back to my other computer.

[dogmush]

Apparently Biden said he's not sleeping well and needs to go back to Delaware.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/18/is-president-biden-flying-back-to-delaware-for-another-long-weekend/

He should try Horse Soldier bourbon.   That's what I've been using to sleep this last week and a half.

https://horsesoldierbourbon.com/